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Posted by Sad Panda on October 27, 2004, at 4:20:52
In reply to and what a crappy election to win..., posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2004, at 20:14:45
Please get rid of Dubya!
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on October 27, 2004, at 8:55:33
In reply to and what a crappy election to win..., posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2004, at 20:14:45
I would welcome China with open arms as the next superpower. Let another country be the world's whipping post for awhile.
Sorry, I usually don't get involved with political stuff around here. A moment of weakness.
Posted by mattw84 on October 27, 2004, at 11:47:58
In reply to Re: and what a crappy election to win..., posted by Miss Honeychurch on October 27, 2004, at 8:55:33
Healthcare anyone? Please vote!
Posted by SLS on October 27, 2004, at 15:26:02
In reply to Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by mattw84 on October 27, 2004, at 11:47:58
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Posted by alexandra_k on October 27, 2004, at 20:07:25
In reply to and what a crappy election to win..., posted by alexandra_k on October 26, 2004, at 20:14:45
Yup, yup, yup he's the one I'd vote for (assuming I was eligible). It is a shame he looks so awkward round the minorities (I hate to even say that but it was big on our news last night).
Now, nobodies even probably heard much of NZ politics but VOTE GREEN I say
DECRIMINALISE MARAJUANA
SAVE THE WHALES
A VOTE LEFT OF NATIONAL
SUPPORTS WELFARE FOR ALL YAY!
Posted by alexandra_k on October 27, 2004, at 22:03:12
In reply to Re: and what a crappy election to win..., posted by alexandra_k on October 27, 2004, at 20:07:25
Posted by Fi on October 28, 2004, at 15:39:51
In reply to But then I'd rather Bush was scapegoat... (nm), posted by alexandra_k on October 27, 2004, at 22:03:12
As a person in 'the rest of the world'..
There are other sources of oil; we want someone we can trust to act thoughtfully and knowledgably; and can recognise complexity (its not good people and bad people). And hopefully not in the pocket of powerful industries.
That may be too much to expect from either of them; I dont know. But I would want it to be clear that it isnt a straightforward division between 'us' and 'them' with US and the rest of us (which includes a vast range of different cultures).
We all live on the same planet, for better or worse, and your president is the most powerful man in the world. Will there be a black and/or female president one day? In the UK, we did have a woman in Maggie Thatcher, but what a disappointment!
Sorry- I'm not aiming to be partisan/policital (tho I am very much hoping for a particular result), but to explain how things can be from the 'other side'.
Fi
Posted by alexandra_k on October 28, 2004, at 16:12:31
In reply to Its a complicated one, posted by Fi on October 28, 2004, at 15:39:51
>But I would want it to be clear that it isnt a straightforward division between 'us' and 'them' with US and the rest of us (which includes a vast range of different cultures).
Fair enough, your point is well taken. I have to say that I am actually incredibly ill informed about politics, as I rarely watch the news or read the paper. I get most of my info from making controversial statements and seeing what reasons people have for dissgreeing with me. Thats how I make up my mind what to think, basically.
> There are other sources of oil
Oh, ok. I am not sure on the facts here. My office mate tells me that while it is only a small amount of the percentage of US oil it is still a lot of oil when you have to figure out alternative sources for it.
>we want someone we can trust to act thoughtfully and knowledgably; and can recognise complexity (its not good people and bad people). And hopefully not in the pocket of powerful industries.
The trouble is figuring out what the 'thoughtful' and 'knowledgable' thing to do is. It is easy to pick words - I mean who doesn't believe that terrorists should stoppit. But when it comes to seeing whether the label 'terrorist' applies to particular people or not then the situation gets a lot trickier. I mean the innocent citizens of Iraq probably consider the US military to be 'terrorists' - imagine how much terror they have caused, how many innocents have died. But we prefer to call that 'collateral damage'.
> That may be too much to expect from either of them; I dont know.
Well, yes there is always that.
> We all live on the same planet, for better or worse, and your president is the most powerful man in the world. Will there be a black and/or female president one day? In the UK, we did have a woman in Maggie Thatcher, but what a disappointment!
Yeah, we have a female prime minister now, and the last prime minister was also female (though they were with opposing parties). I don't know if we can say anything useful about how 'female rule' is better than or worse than, people are people at the end of the day, and some make good decisions and some make bad and some are male and some are female and some are black and some are yellow etc etc.
> Sorry- I'm not aiming to be partisan/policital (tho I am very much hoping for a particular result), but to explain how things can be from the 'other side'.
I read your opinion with much interest :-)
Posted by Zena on October 29, 2004, at 11:13:36
In reply to Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by mattw84 on October 27, 2004, at 11:47:58
> Healthcare anyone? Please vote!
Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
Zena
Posted by trucker on October 29, 2004, at 21:01:28
In reply to Re: Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by Zena on October 29, 2004, at 11:13:36
i agree with ya zena... if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell... and it can get worse.. no one really sees the big picture
trucker
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> Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
> Zena
Posted by Zena on October 29, 2004, at 22:11:39
In reply to Re: Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by trucker on October 29, 2004, at 21:01:28
> i agree with ya zena... if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell... and it can get worse.. no one really sees the big picture
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> trucker
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> ///////////////////////////////////////////////> > Healthcare anyone? Please vote!
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> > Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
> > Zena
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Thanks, Trucker for your kind words. And your right-people don't see the whole picture.
Zena
Posted by Sad Panda on October 30, 2004, at 0:04:43
In reply to Re: Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by Zena on October 29, 2004, at 22:11:39
> > i agree with ya zena... if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell... and it can get worse.. no one really sees the big picture
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> > trucker
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> > ///////////////////////////////////////////////> > Healthcare anyone? Please vote!
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> > > Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
> > > Zena
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> Thanks, Trucker for your kind words. And your right-people don't see the whole picture.
> Zena
>
I see the big picture. 9/11 happened while Bush is president & the world is becoming increasingly divided since Iraq happened. Meanwhile, Dick Cheney's friends are getting rich by getting most of the contract work in Iraq.
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 30, 2004, at 4:08:40
In reply to Re: Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by trucker on October 29, 2004, at 21:01:28
> if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell...
Let's try an experiment, everyone: be positive about your candidate instead of negative about the other one. :-)
Bob
Posted by Sad Panda on October 30, 2004, at 5:36:36
In reply to Re: positive campaigning, posted by Dr. Bob on October 30, 2004, at 4:08:40
> > if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell...
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> Let's try an experiment, everyone: be positive about your candidate instead of negative about the other one. :-)
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> Bob
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>That would remove fear from politics & where would be the fun in that? :)
How about this: since the last democrat president left office you have had 9/11, a war in Afghanistan, a war in Iraq, big set backs in realtionships between the western world & Iran. I am pretty POSITIVE that if a democrat doesn't get in, things are only going to get worse.
Cheers,
Paul.
Posted by SLS on October 30, 2004, at 7:34:12
In reply to Re: positive campaigning, posted by Sad Panda on October 30, 2004, at 5:36:36
> > > if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell...
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> > Let's try an experiment, everyone: be positive about your candidate instead of negative about the other one. :-)
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> That would remove fear from politics & where would be the fun in that? :)
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> How about this: since the last democrat president left office you have had 9/11, a war in Afghanistan, a war in Iraq, big set backs in realtionships between the western world & Iran. I am pretty POSITIVE that if a democrat doesn't get in, things are only going to get worse.Cute.
:-)
Me too.
- Scott
Posted by Allen770 on October 30, 2004, at 8:14:59
In reply to PLEAESE VOTE FOR KERRY., posted by Sad Panda on October 27, 2004, at 4:20:52
Posted by NewWife on October 30, 2004, at 9:37:35
In reply to Re: positive campaigning, posted by SLS on October 30, 2004, at 7:34:12
Posted by trucker on October 30, 2004, at 9:59:59
In reply to Re: positive campaigning, posted by Dr. Bob on October 30, 2004, at 4:08:40
ok dr-bob how is this...with bush we will have one nation under GOD... a true MAN at the head of our country... a christian in charge...a man with a TRUE plan... and as for the war.. we have to give to recieve... the war is for OUR freedom............................................................................................. if a republican doesn't get in we can pay for "i did not have sex with that woman" DRY CLEANING BILL.. with our tax dollars... our defisit will qaud dripple. and us poor will be tax to death... at least bush didn't stand there and help throw tomatoes and rotten egg at our boys coming home from viet nam... like mr kerry did with his followers.. he and jane should have wed..the last ones from massachucetts.. were MURDERED.. any ideal why... they all have same ideal.. we little people get to pay for their luxories..
trucker
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> Let's try an experiment, everyone: be positive about your candidate instead of negative about the other one. :-)
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> Bob
Posted by SLS on October 30, 2004, at 10:04:25
In reply to Re: positive campaigning, posted by trucker on October 30, 2004, at 9:59:59
Posted by trucker on October 30, 2004, at 10:23:04
In reply to Re: Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by Zena on October 29, 2004, at 22:11:39
glad you are still here zena... and i love the ideal of bush at the head of our country for four more years.. at least he is against partial birth abortions.. there are many other good issues here too with bush..
trucker
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> > > Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
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> Thanks, Trucker for your kind words. And your right-people don't see the whole picture.
> Zena
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Posted by Sad Panda on October 30, 2004, at 10:40:42
In reply to Everything you said - but just the opposite :-) (nm) » trucker, posted by SLS on October 30, 2004, at 10:04:25
You are exactly right Scott.
Dubya holds the world record for largest ever deficit & aims to make it even bigger. Some one should pull him aside & tell him that having a deficit is a bad thing.....
Cheers,
Paul.
Posted by Zena on October 30, 2004, at 14:23:00
In reply to The big picture., posted by Sad Panda on October 30, 2004, at 0:04:43
> > > i agree with ya zena... if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell... and it can get worse.. no one really sees the big picture
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> > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////> > Healthcare anyone? Please vote!
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> > > > Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
> > > > Zena
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> > Thanks, Trucker for your kind words. And your right-people don't see the whole picture.
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> I see the big picture. 9/11 happened while Bush is president & the world is becoming increasingly divided since Iraq happened. Meanwhile, Dick Cheney's friends are getting rich by getting most of the contract work in Iraq.
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9/11 didn't happen overnight. It was in the planning stage long before Bush was president. Our great country declined morally while Clinton was pres. You folks just don't get it.
Zena
Posted by Zena on October 30, 2004, at 14:28:25
In reply to Re: Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by trucker on October 30, 2004, at 10:23:04
> glad you are still here zena... and i love the ideal of bush at the head of our country for four more years.. at least he is against partial birth abortions.. there are many other good issues here too with bush..
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> ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////> > i agree with ya zena... if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell... and it can get worse.. no one really sees the big picture
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> > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////> > Healthcare anyone? Please vote!
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> > > > Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
> > > > Zena
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> > Thanks, Trucker for your kind words. And your right-people don't see the whole picture.
> > Zena
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I'm still here, trucker. I don't post much. I would like to share a few things with you. Would you give me your e-mail address? I can't do it on here. Thanks.
Zena>
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Posted by SLS on October 30, 2004, at 15:39:37
In reply to Re: The big picture., posted by Zena on October 30, 2004, at 14:23:00
> > > > i agree with ya zena... if kerry gets in our world will go to --ll in a nut shell... and it can get worse.. no one really sees the big picture
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> > > > trucker
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> > > > ///////////////////////////////////////////////> > Healthcare anyone? Please vote!
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> > > > > Sorry, but I am a Bush fan. Kerry scares me. Just my two cents.
> > > > > Zena
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> > > Thanks, Trucker for your kind words. And your right-people don't see the whole picture.
> > > Zena
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> > I see the big picture. 9/11 happened while Bush is president & the world is becoming increasingly divided since Iraq happened. Meanwhile, Dick Cheney's friends are getting rich by getting most of the contract work in Iraq.
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> 9/11 didn't happen overnight. It was in the planning stage long before Bush was president. Our great country declined morally while Clinton was pres. You folks just don't get it.Let's play nice.
I disagree with you. I don't feel that the country somehow declined morally during the 1990s, and if it did, it certainly wasn't the result of the Clinton presidency. Of course, we may have different definitions of morals, but I consider Clinton to be one of the most moral of people to ever hold the office. It is unfortunate that his sexual escapade at the end of his term is to tarnish so much his legacy.
- Scott
Posted by trucker on October 30, 2004, at 16:08:52
In reply to Re: Our future depends upon the Kerry vote!!, posted by Zena on October 30, 2004, at 14:28:25
meadbabybug@yahoo.com you can im trucker627
trucker
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> I'm still here, trucker. I don't post much. I would like to share a few things with you. Would you give me your e-mail address? I can't do it on here. Thanks.
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