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Posted by shortelise on October 17, 2004, at 13:12:41
In reply to Yet Another Personality Test, posted by verne on October 16, 2004, at 17:52:31
Thisis very cool - I did it first describing myself as I was when I went into therapy, and it was bad bad bad.
Then I did it again with how I am now, and I am not so bad! Not even borderline ... does that just mean that I know the right answers now! Just kidding, It makes me feel great.ShortE
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on October 17, 2004, at 13:15:33
In reply to Yet Another Personality Test, posted by verne on October 16, 2004, at 17:52:31
Scored low on everything except "Histrionic" where I scored high.
Posted by vwoolf on October 17, 2004, at 13:51:39
In reply to Re: Yet Another Personality Test, posted by Miss Honeychurch on October 17, 2004, at 13:15:33
What does it mean that I scored so high on just about everything? Can anyone help? I keep feeling crazier and crazier, and it doesn't help that even on tests I come up as seriously disturbed. My T says I'm not, but it doesn't feel that way to me.
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 17, 2004, at 14:07:49
In reply to Re: MMPI » Larry Hoover, posted by Miss Honeychurch on October 17, 2004, at 13:03:50
> Larry,
>
> My Therapist wants me to take the MMPI over very soon. I've been one year three months in therapy and took the MMPI within the first month of seeing him. My T is a clinical psychologist and very interested in seeing the differences between the two tests, as am I, as I know there will be differences.It's a reasonable thing to do, if you were particularly unstable when you took it. Not only will it point out where progress has been made, but it will help identify core elements of personality which can be addressed with focussed coping strategies.
Regards,
Lar
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 17, 2004, at 14:12:56
In reply to Re: Yet Another Personality Test, posted by vwoolf on October 17, 2004, at 13:51:39
> What does it mean that I scored so high on just about everything? Can anyone help? I keep feeling crazier and crazier, and it doesn't help that even on tests I come up as seriously disturbed. My T says I'm not, but it doesn't feel that way to me.
First off, the sort of test you did there is a screening test. It's not designed to sort out the differences between stable personality, for example, and emotional distress which might temporarily occupy one's mind. The high scores could reflect emotional intensity, and nothing more.
Really, the most useful test of this sort is the 2nd version of the MMPI. It has something like 800 questions. You do it on a computer, and it's scored by the computer. Then, a person trained in interpreting the patterns of scores can make assessments of states (emotional issues) and traits (stable personality), based on the various scores, and also how they cluster together.
Lar
Posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 15:17:49
In reply to Re: Yet Another Personality Test, posted by Pfinstegg on October 17, 2004, at 10:55:52
> Histrionic moderate, others low.
same here! i was surprised i even scored moderate for histrionic. they based that on 2 questions i answered yes to..i think they were 'do you like being accepted by your peers' and 'do you like receiving complements' or something..not sure the exact wording of the questions..well, anyway, i thought most people felt that way..interesting. but they said that low and moderate scores don't indicate a problem, only high or very high, so i guess i'm still in the 'normal' range..btw, this test didn't show my social anxiety..probably b/c i wasn't envisioning work situations, which is where my problem lies..
amy:)
Posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 15:27:52
In reply to Re: Yet Another Personality Test, posted by vwoolf on October 17, 2004, at 13:51:39
> What does it mean that I scored so high on just about everything? Can anyone help? I keep feeling crazier and crazier, and it doesn't help that even on tests I come up as seriously disturbed. My T says I'm not, but it doesn't feel that way to me.
vwolf, don't worry, sweetie..i agree with larry. also, i would trust your therapist. he/she knows you better than this quiz. for what it's worth, you do not come across as having a bunch of personality disorders. one thing that really bothers me about this test is that it asks, for instance, "have you ever..". i don't agree with those kinds of questions. just b/c a person did or felt a certain way in the past doesn't indicate it in the present. it's like saying once a disorder, always a disorder. i believe this is dead wrong. people can change and overcome their disorders. this is one reason why it's important to take a more true diagnostic measure with many more questions..
amy :)
Posted by AdaGrace on October 17, 2004, at 17:22:27
In reply to Re: Yet Another Personality Test » vwoolf, posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 15:27:52
Very High : Borderline & Dependent
High: Paranoid, Histrionic, & Avoidant
Moderate: Schizoid, Schizotypal, Obsessive-Compulsive
Low: Antisocial & NacissisticSomebody please tell me I am not what my husband said "freakin nuts and belong in the luny bin"
Posted by Poet on October 17, 2004, at 17:28:36
In reply to Yet Another Personality Test, posted by verne on October 16, 2004, at 17:52:31
Paranoid: High
Schizoid: Moderate
Schizotypal: Low
Antisocial: Low
Borderline: Moderate
Histrionic: Low
Narcissistic: Low
Avoidant: High
Dependent: Low
Obsessive-Compulsive: HighI must be improving, the last time I did this I was high on schizoid, now I'm moderate. Then again, can I trust the results? Still high on paranoid. I guess I can.
Poet
Posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 17:33:56
In reply to Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High, posted by AdaGrace on October 17, 2004, at 17:22:27
> Very High : Borderline & Dependent
> High: Paranoid, Histrionic, & Avoidant
> Moderate: Schizoid, Schizotypal, Obsessive-Compulsive
> Low: Antisocial & Nacissistic
>
> Somebody please tell me I am not what my husband said "freakin nuts and belong in the luny bin"this test is designed to identify personality disorders as defined in DSM-IV. In other words, it's only given to "nuts", and is designed to find out what kind of "nut" you are. It's not designed to figure out where your good side is :)
-z
Posted by AdaGrace on October 17, 2004, at 17:36:47
In reply to Re: Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High » AdaGrace, posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 17:33:56
Ohhhh I beg to differ.....apparently I am Low Low on Antisocial and Narcissistic........something to be ever so proud of.
I'm a nut alright. And not even the kind people like.
Posted by Poet on October 17, 2004, at 17:37:05
In reply to Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High, posted by AdaGrace on October 17, 2004, at 17:22:27
AdaGrace,
Repeat after me: I am not freakin' nuts. Don't say it ouloud within earshot of your husband.
Get your husband to take the test, his scores might prove very interesting.
Poet
Posted by AdaGrace on October 17, 2004, at 17:38:54
In reply to Re: Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High, posted by Poet on October 17, 2004, at 17:37:05
Now there's an interesting thought.....
Posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 17:52:04
In reply to Re: Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High » zeugma, posted by AdaGrace on October 17, 2004, at 17:36:47
> Ohhhh I beg to differ.....apparently I am Low Low on Antisocial and Narcissistic........something to be ever so proud of.
>
> I'm a nut alright. And not even the kind people like.beg to differ. dependent types always have mates, and Borderlines have a following due to notable behavior patterns (see also: histrionic). Narcissistics are bores (apologies to those who scored high there, my words are unlikely to change your self-opinions anyway). Antisocial: I'm glad you're not!
-z
Posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 18:03:35
In reply to Re: Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High » AdaGrace, posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 17:52:04
<Narcissistics are bores (apologies to those who scored high there)
sorry to interrupt, z..
narcissistics are bores? where do you get your info? my mother has narcissistic personality disorder, and, let me tell you, she was anything but boring (although i can't stand her..she's a monster.) narcissists tend to be very charming when they're not ass****s. although i wouldn't wish a narcissist on ANYONE. btw, i'm not referring to ppl who scored moderate for narcissism, as that is still within normal range..:)
amy :)
Posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 18:25:12
In reply to Re: Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High » zeugma, posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 18:03:35
<btw, i'm not referring to ppl who scored moderate for narcissism, as that is still within normal range..:)
i wanted to clarify my statement above by adding that i'm also not referring to those here who may have scored high or very high for narcissism, as i can sniff out a narcissist pretty well, and don't believe anyone here has narcissistic personality disorder..:)
amy
Posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 18:52:48
In reply to Re: Egads!!!!!!!! I'm Very High » zeugma, posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 18:03:35
Posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 18:56:52
In reply to i stand corrected (nm) » alesta, posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 18:52:48
this test can trip a lot of wires... could be a good thing, could be a bad thing... depending...
-z
Posted by dazedandconfused on October 17, 2004, at 19:19:16
In reply to Yet Another Personality Test, posted by verne on October 16, 2004, at 17:52:31
Ok, took the test and my computer crashed...not a good omen! I'll just list them below.
My question is how can I change some of these things. I have been in therapy forever...four years with two different therapists. Not to mention the five years of therapy I had when I was younger. Frankly, I don't find it that helpful.
What am I doing wrong??? Would hypnosis help with this stuff? I know it sounds strange, but it seems like a streamlined way to get to your core beliefs.
This is distressing.
Paranoid - High
Schizoid - Very High
Schizotypal - Moderate
Antisocial - Moderate
Borderline - Moderate
Histrinic - Moderate
Narcissistic - Moderate
Avoidant - High
Dependent - Very High
Obsessive Compulsive - High
Posted by Dinah on October 17, 2004, at 19:27:31
In reply to Re: What can you do about this?, posted by dazedandconfused on October 17, 2004, at 19:19:16
And I don't think my personality changed.
With so few questions, how you "read" it any given time might matter a lot.
Maybe I ought to take it ten times or so and average my results. :))
Posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 20:07:11
In reply to Re: What can you do about this?, posted by dazedandconfused on October 17, 2004, at 19:19:16
hey dazed,
are you okay, there? :) i wanted to try and help comfort you..first of all, don't worry about the moderate scores! throw them out! the test makers say that low and moderate scores don't indicate a disorder. as for your 5 other scores, do you have an anxiety disorder? e.g. social anxiety? if you do, i think it's possibly going to raise *several* of these, unfortunately, making you seem a lot worse off than you are..so i say don't worry about this test. please...okay?> What am I doing wrong???
don't feel like you're doing anything wrong..you just haven't found the right treatment..i'm wondering if you have you tried meds as opposed to just therapy-based treatment?
take good care,:)
amy
Posted by dazedandconfused on October 17, 2004, at 22:42:11
In reply to Re: What can you do about this? » dazedandconfused, posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 20:07:11
Amy,
You are so sweet. Thank you for the reassurance. I am not on any meds at all right now so I think that is part of the problem!And yes, I have been in therapy for a total of about ten years...that is what I find so distressing about all this. I feel like I should be better by now...not have these really high scores. But I guess that's not how it works.
Thank you for the reassurance though.
dazed
Posted by alesta on October 17, 2004, at 23:56:59
In reply to Re: What can you do about this?, posted by dazedandconfused on October 17, 2004, at 22:42:11
hi again dazed, :)you're so welcome. :) if all that therapy hasn't really done anything, i personally wouldn't waste any more time and money on it. meds would definitely be worth pursuing. if you ever want any help deciding on a med, i'm here. i wish you luck!! (and thank u for being sweet back.:))
take care!
amy :)
Posted by cubic_me on October 18, 2004, at 16:03:33
In reply to about this test, posted by zeugma on October 17, 2004, at 18:56:52
I took this test a couple of years ago and got a few highs and moderates, today I got all lows. Does that mean I'm cured of all personality disorders, or I never had any in the first place, or is that just wishful thinking?!
Posted by Larry Hoover on October 18, 2004, at 17:46:52
In reply to Re: about this test, posted by cubic_me on October 18, 2004, at 16:03:33
> I took this test a couple of years ago and got a few highs and moderates, today I got all lows. Does that mean I'm cured of all personality disorders, or I never had any in the first place, or is that just wishful thinking?!
Could be you never had them in the first place. Tests like the one we're all talking about are not very reliable. If they indicate something might be worth taking a closer look, great, because it got you to take a closer look. But just being upset when you take the test can skew things significantly. Your state of mind is being measured, along with personality traits.
On the other hand, you might have figured out how to take the test to minimize your score. <teasing>
Lar
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