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Posted by Cass on September 10, 2004, at 14:21:16
Do you guys have any favorites? I'll start with this quote by comedian, Richard Lewis:
"I quit therapy because my analyst was trying to help me behind my back."
Posted by alexandra_k on September 10, 2004, at 19:40:47
In reply to Funniest psych related quotes or jokes?, posted by Cass on September 10, 2004, at 14:21:16
I only know this one, which isn't too funny.
How many psychiatrists does it take to change a lightbulb? One, but only if the lightbulb wants to change.
I like this one, but it is not about psych stuff..
How many analytic philosophers does it take to change a lightbulb?
AAAAh, if you consider it carefully you will realise that this is a pseudo-problem. A lightbulb, by definition, is a bearer of light. If it does not bear light, then it is not a lightbulb. The answer to the problem lies in the disolution of the problem; the aim of philosophy is to show the fly the way out of the fly-bottle, to free our intelligence from the bewitchment of language. (Wittgenstein)
Posted by Cass on September 10, 2004, at 20:07:22
In reply to Re: Funniest psych related quotes or jokes?, posted by alexandra_k on September 10, 2004, at 19:40:47
Alexandra, I had heard the first one before, and I always thought it was funny. The second one was hysterical!! Thanks!
Posted by Emme on September 10, 2004, at 23:40:08
In reply to Funniest psych related quotes or jokes?, posted by Cass on September 10, 2004, at 14:21:16
Joke told by Maggie in an episode of Northern Exposure:
Psychiatrist #1 is walking down the hallway. She meets psychiatrist #2. Psychiatrist #2 says "hello". Psychiatrist # 1 thinks "Gee, I wonder what she meant by that."
Posted by Daisy Elizabeth on September 12, 2004, at 0:21:42
In reply to Re: Funniest psych related quotes or jokes?, posted by Emme on September 10, 2004, at 23:40:08
Saw this on the web...
The patient sits down.
The Dr. says, "I'm interested to know more about your problem. please start from the begining."
The patient says, Okay. In the begining I created the heavens and the earth..."
Posted by Jai Narayan on September 12, 2004, at 8:38:15
In reply to Re: Funniest psych related quotes or jokes?, posted by alexandra_k on September 10, 2004, at 19:40:47
>How many analytic philosophers does it take to change a lightbulb?
AAAAh, if you consider it carefully you will realise that this is a pseudo-problem. A lightbulb, by definition, is a bearer of light. If it does not bear light, then it is not a lightbulb. The answer to the problem lies in the disolution of the problem; the aim of philosophy is to show the fly the way out of the fly-bottle, to free our intelligence from the bewitchment of language. (Wittgenstein)
*Great Joke! Who is this Wittgenstein? He sounds interesting. I have been away from any formal schooling.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 13, 2004, at 18:59:22
In reply to great joke, can you tell me about Wittgenstein?, posted by Jai Narayan on September 12, 2004, at 8:38:15
>Who is this Wittgenstein? He sounds interesting. I have been away from any formal schooling.
Ludwig Wittgenstein is (arguably) the most brilliant philosopher of last century. He is revered in analytic philosophy for a couple of things....
(1) Logical Postitivism was the leading world view (Bertrand Russell and Gotlob Frege). The form of the world was thought to be mirrored in the form of language / thought. There are 'simples' which are the tiniest units of meaning / sense and they join together to create propositions, and propositions represent the world as being a certain way which is either mirrored in a state of affairs.... anyway, it gets complicated, but he took this world view as far as he could go when he was stuck in the trenches (fighting for the Nazi's as a Jew, regrettably..).
(2) Then, years later he wrote the 'Philosophical Investigations' which was severely critical of his earlier atomism. He tears apart philosophy conceived as a search for necessary and sufficient conditions (the practice of conceptual analysis so loved in the 70's yeech). Famous arguements against the possibility of a 'private language' (though hard to actuallly find in the text), and on 'rule following' in the head.
Feminists and post-modernists love him too, and he's written a lot else besides, but all I know of him is those two works.
Posted by Racer on September 14, 2004, at 11:58:39
In reply to Re: Wittgenstein, posted by alexandra_k on September 13, 2004, at 18:59:22
I use his Word Games (Philosophical Investigations #66) to explain a lot of concepts to people -- somehow it just struck a chord in me that hasn't stopped resonating in the 20+ years since I first came across it.
And he lived on the same staircase as A. E. Housman, who used a similar idea in his famous talk, "The Name and Nature of Poetry."
Kewl. You can join the club. We'll send you the pointy hat.
Posted by octopusprime on September 16, 2004, at 1:28:12
In reply to great joke, can you tell me about Wittgenstein?, posted by Jai Narayan on September 12, 2004, at 8:38:15
""And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel. "
of course from the monty python philosopher's drinking song!
Immanuel Kant was a real piss-ant who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar who could think you under the table. ..
David Hume could out-consume Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel.
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach 'ya 'bout the raising of the wrist.
Socrates, himself, was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will, after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away, half a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
And Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And René Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2004, at 21:08:37
In reply to wittgenstein was a beery swine who was » Jai Narayan, posted by octopusprime on September 16, 2004, at 1:28:12
Somebody said (maybe Jerry Fodor) that the aim of philosophy is to start with something so self evident that nobody would dare to doubt it and to end up with something so absurd that nobody would dare believe it.
I feel like therapy is the same process in reverse.
Don't really know what that had to do with anything, but that occured to me last night..
Posted by zeugma on September 17, 2004, at 20:52:42
In reply to Isn't Monty Python Great :-), posted by alexandra_k on September 16, 2004, at 21:08:37
> Somebody said (maybe Jerry Fodor) that the aim of philosophy is to start with something so self evident that nobody would dare to doubt it and to end up with something so absurd that nobody would dare believe it.
Russell said that. It's on the back of one of my moldy paperbacks.
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> I feel like therapy is the same process in reverse.
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> Don't really know what that had to do with anything, but that occured to me last night..Those are the kindest words I've heard about therapy. The thing is, I am beginning to say absurd things to my therapist. Should I be concerned?
-z
Posted by alexandra_k on September 19, 2004, at 18:44:16
In reply to Re: Isn't Monty Python Great :-) » alexandra_k, posted by zeugma on September 17, 2004, at 20:52:42
> Russell said that. It's on the back of one of my moldy paperbacks.
Cheers for that. Russell, eh - but I have never read anything of his (aside from reprints of 'Descriptions' and 'The Philosophy of Logical Atomism')... still, must have got it from somewhere.
>I am beginning to say absurd things to my therapist. Should I be concerned?Maybe it depends on what sorts of 'absurd' things you are saying.
Posted by zeugma on September 19, 2004, at 20:30:48
In reply to Re: zeugma, posted by alexandra_k on September 19, 2004, at 18:44:16
> > Russell said that. It's on the back of one of my moldy paperbacks.
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> Cheers for that. Russell, eh - but I have never read anything of his (aside from reprints of 'Descriptions' and 'The Philosophy of Logical Atomism')... still, must have got it from somewhere.I think it's on the back of 'The Philosophy of Logical Atomism.' But I wouldn't doubt that Fodor would have bandied it about. I don't care for Russell's logical atomism. But 'descriptions': now that's a masterpiece.
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> >I am beginning to say absurd things to my therapist. Should I be concerned?
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> Maybe it depends on what sorts of 'absurd' things you are saying.
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> True. The 'absurd' things all concern my childhood, and need to be said, though it pains me to say them. Maybe I'm at the start of the process and the pleasant banalities will come.-z
Posted by alexandra_k on September 20, 2004, at 20:35:48
In reply to Re: zeugma » alexandra_k, posted by zeugma on September 19, 2004, at 20:30:48
Yes, descriptions was brilliant. But is 'the present king of france is bald' false becuase it deductively implies that there is at least one present king of france which is false; or is it neither true nor false because the presupposition (that there is at least one present king of france) is not met and so it is an abortive utterance that does not even get up of the ground???
I too have issues with pleasant banalities. But then I have just found out that I was terminated because my therapist got burnt out... I need to learn to take better care of them because this is becoming a recurring theme in my life.
Maybe the key is not to think of them as pleasant banalities, and instead think it as fulfulling the essential social function of making them feel like they are appreciated and are helping.
Sorry, just thinking aloud (sigh)
:-)
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