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Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 22:48:35
In reply to Re: Please keep a civil tongue, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:47:35
Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:48:46
In reply to ALSO A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY CORRECT ASSHOLES (nm), posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 22:47:23
Um, did you read the civility rules when you registered?
gg
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 22:50:28
In reply to Re: ALSO A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY CORRECT .... » ron1953, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:48:46
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:50:54
In reply to Re: Please keep a civil tongue, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:47:35
> Holy cow!
Eh? I'm not getting your meaning.
I was asking ron1953 to abide by the language guidelines and not post things like f****** ps*****. bob suggested we might raise civility issues amongst ourselves, rather than depending on him all the time.
Lar
Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:53:34
In reply to Re: Please keep a civil tongue » gardenergirl, posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:50:54
Sorry Lar, blame it on the lateness of the hour. I was responding to the sudden er, escalation of the poster, not your post.
So sorry.
gg
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:54:52
In reply to ALSO A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY CORRECT ASSHOLES (nm), posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 22:47:23
You said:
"If this bothers you....I'd hate to see your reaction to a real problem."How appropriate.
Lar
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 22:55:02
In reply to Re: Please keep a civil tongue » gardenergirl, posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:50:54
with a poster with the dubious handle of :Miss Honeychurch", who took offense because I indicated that she was over-sensitive.
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:56:10
In reply to Re: Please keep a civil tongue, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:53:34
> Sorry Lar, blame it on the lateness of the hour. I was responding to the sudden er, escalation of the poster, not your post.
>
> So sorry.
>
> ggNot a problem. Surprised, I was, not offended.
Lar
Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:57:24
In reply to It all started........, posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 22:55:02
Hmm, good insight there about how it started. I happen to believe that sensitivity is a gift.
gg
Posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:59:04
In reply to Re: ALSO A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY CORRECT » ron1953, posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:54:52
> You said:
> "If this bothers you....I'd hate to see your reaction to a real problem."
>
> How appropriate.
>
> LarMy apologies, ron, Dr. Bob already declared that uncivil. I missed it, and ought not to have quoted you, under those circumstances.
Lar
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:00:09
In reply to Re: It all started........ » ron1953, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 22:57:24
Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 23:01:54
In reply to FUCK YOU, TOO! (nm) » gardenergirl, posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 22:48:35
Wowsa, I can feel your anger in your posts. Perhaps a nice cup of herbal tea might help?
And whatever your views on the civility rules, I personally request that you refrain from using offensive language. I am offended by cursing on a public forum.
By the way, I don't believe that the "you too" part of your post is an accurate representation of my posts.
Please take care,
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 23:05:21
In reply to And over-sensitivity is a curse (nm) » gardenergirl, posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:00:09
You have it half right. Highly sensitive people have both a gift and a special burden. Like all gifts, there is a negative aspect to it, particulary when approximately 80% of the general public does not possess such a gift (Elaine Aron, 1997).
gg
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:05:21
In reply to Re: ALSO A BUNCH OF POLITICALLY CORRECT, posted by Larry Hoover on August 30, 2004, at 22:59:04
Are you saying that you agree that my comment was not so agregious and that my intentions were simply point out that Honeybunch was, obviously displaying an amazing amount of intolerance that, to me, betrayed a lot of underlying rigidity?
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:13:23
In reply to Re: And over-sensitivity is a curse, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 23:05:21
And believe it or not, I am sensitive, too. That's why I'm reacting to this barrage of attacks over honeychurch's haughty response.
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 30, 2004, at 23:20:25
In reply to Re: And over-sensitivity is a curse » gardenergirl, posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:13:23
You are not alone.
I too am sensitive and proud.
No problem about being this way either.
What about that?!!
I totally support you.
Posted by Jai Narayan on August 30, 2004, at 23:23:43
In reply to Re: And over-sensitivity is a curse » gardenergirl, posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:13:23
what is going on that you are on this track?
Ron, chill.
Take breath
what are you really trying to do?
This is a cool site and full of wonderful people why not give it your best?
what would be the problem?
Kindness is golden.
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:27:33
In reply to Re: And over-sensitivity is a curse, posted by Jai Narayan on August 30, 2004, at 23:20:25
Jai:
Thank you for your comments and support. I think a lot of folks need to be shaken out of their naive and childlike views of a perfect world without conflict. Working through the conflict is where the real resolutions are to be found, not by avoiding it. Wars, cultural conflict, etc. are absolute proof of this.
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:32:44
In reply to Ron 1953 what happened?, posted by Jai Narayan on August 30, 2004, at 23:23:43
Jai:
It all started because a poster with the dubious handle of "Miss Honeychurch", took offense because I indicated that she was over-sensitive.
I appreciate your advice to chill, etc.
Posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 23:32:48
In reply to Re: And over-sensitivity is a curse » Jai Narayan, posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:27:33
> I think a lot of folks need to be shaken out of their naive and childlike views of a perfect world without conflict.
Wow, how sweet. Another new poster who wants to share what Babblers need.
gg
Posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:57:18
In reply to Re: And over-sensitivity is a curse, posted by gardenergirl on August 30, 2004, at 23:32:48
The following exchange was the basis for all of the contention. People's cages got rattled because of my reply. Funny that SHE said, "I feel so ridiculous", then a bit of ridicule blew everybody's doors off.
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on August 25, 2004, at 12:54:46
I feel so ridiculous sometimes. I cannot stand bad grammar, either written or spoken. I cannot stand that people no longer understand the purpose and use of the apostrophe. I have been looking over MANY resumes recently since I am on a search committee for a position opening and the quality of grammar is absolutely atrocious. If I see a spelling mistake, misused apostophe, using "your" instead of "you're" I don't even consider them. People at work think I am totally extreme.
Please tell me I am not the only one who appreciates good grammar. Is anyone out there alarmed by what they see and hear?
Why is the apostrophe SO ABUSED????
DO they not learn grammar anymore in schools? Do they no longer diagram sentences? What's the deal?
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Posted by ron1953 on August 29, 2004, at 11:46:04
In reply to Apostrophe Abuse, posted by Miss Honeychurch on August 25, 2004, at 12:54:46
I, too appreciate good grammer, spelling, sentence structure, etc.. And I do notice the deficiencies so many have using the language. I see it everywhere. Even the so-called professionals, writing in newspapers and magazines often have a poor command of the language. The President of th United States can't even pronounce the word "nuclear" correctly!
BUT.....am I bugged by it? No. English is the most complicated language in the world. It's not reasonable to expect mastery from everybody. The purpose of language is to COMMUNICATE. Are you more interested in what a poster has to say or how they say it?
If this bothers you and the others that agree as much as it seems to, I'd hate to see your reaction to a real problem.
Posted by gardenergirl on August 31, 2004, at 0:26:30
In reply to I suppose everyone had their say, posted by ron1953 on August 30, 2004, at 23:57:18
Well, not everyone has had their say. I suspect Dr. Bob will weigh in on this thread as it appears there are multiple civility issues.
You seem a bit calmer now. Can you talk a little bit about exactly what was so upsetting? Frankly, I never saw a reply to you from Miss Honeychurch (who is quite aptly named, actually). Was there something perhaps unrelated going on that was triggered by this thread? I admit I was surprised by the what appeared to me to be a sudden rise in intensity of your responses.
Regards,
gg
Posted by Shadowplayers721 on August 31, 2004, at 2:40:52
In reply to Re: I suppose everyone had their say » ron1953, posted by gardenergirl on August 31, 2004, at 0:26:30
"I am a keepin on a fast driving, but I am not gonna bee a lying . That I am a dying to attact the defying while the doc is off lining. So, I just keep on a sighin while I continue to drive like I am a flyin on the streets of..." (BAM)
THE OLE TYMER RYMER JUST CRASHED INTO A STOP SIGN. PLEASE PARDON THE INTERRUPTION.
Posted by ron1953 on August 31, 2004, at 8:04:47
In reply to Re: I suppose everyone had their say » ron1953, posted by gardenergirl on August 31, 2004, at 0:26:30
gg:
You are the last person I expected to hear from, considering the epithet exchange. Good for you - someone who actually has guts (maybe "guts" is really a very apt word for what I mean - something of substance INSIDE). Actually, I was never really upset, just annoyed. Annoyed because I saw what I see too much of every day, in many areas of life. People love to talk but they don't listen very well. When they experience something they don't like, they respond reflexively without bothering to take the time to consider the emotions underlying their reaction; did they really think about what happened and the fact that whatever it was could be interpreted in multiple ways? Did they consider their own beliefs and "filters" before reacting? Did they take a moment to laugh at themselves for having such an instantaneous negative reaction? Did they consider that the "other side" just might have an interesting and possibly useful point?
You could say, "Gee, Ron, it was only a little thing about grammar". The subject doesn't matter. What matters is communication and more importantly, self-awareness. All of the big misunderstandings start with little ones that escalate. Hence, family discord, divorce, lost friendships, cultural strife, political upheaval, war...... See what I mean? All because we may not listen, truly listen, to the many "voices" in play during any interaction.
Maybe I'm over-sensitive about lousy communication. But all I have to do is pick up a newspaper or watch the evening news to remind me why I tend to be that way.
Posted by ron1953 on August 31, 2004, at 8:25:39
In reply to Re: I suppose everyone had their say, posted by ron1953 on August 31, 2004, at 8:04:47
I hope Bob, as a therapist, reads and thinks about the entire thread, the definition and use/misuse of "civility" in this forum. His thoughts and cautions about civility are subjective (Bob, I can read a dictionary, too). Maybe it was uncivil for people to be criticizing others' poor grammar. Pretty blurry, huh?
If people want to hide in their private Pollyanna worlds, fine. Reality will still be the wolf at their door.
So, before Bob erases all of this stuff and bans me from the boards, I hope he'll give it some good thought and really listen to the many voices, literally and figuratively.
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