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Posted by SandyWeb on June 7, 2004, at 11:38:32
In reply to Re: oh dear » octopusprime, posted by LynneDa on June 7, 2004, at 9:29:43
Reading those messages from the other night really is a reality check as to what I've been putting you through. It is such a cruel thing to do to you all. I guess I just needed to see the horrible position I've placed you all in. I don't even know what half of those sentences mean, and I can't imagine what I must have been doing in Open. I am so sorry.
I am going to leave you guys in peace now. It's time I left Babble. You have been so wonderful, but it's obvious that I have a real hard time accepting help. I don't know why. Something to do with my always having relied on myself, I guess. To accept help is almost equivalent to admitting yet another defeat. I don't know. But....it's not of your concern now. I just want you to know that everyone has been great. I am so sorry for the disruption in your lives. I understand you have difficulties of your own. I have been using you so cruelly.
I *promise* that I will not post anymore. I can hear the sighs of relief all over Babble-land. *smile* Thanks for putting up with me for so long. I'll think of you. Sorry for being such a jerk. I didn't realize.
Hugs to you all,
Sandy
Posted by LynneDa on June 7, 2004, at 11:53:44
In reply to Sorry, posted by SandyWeb on June 7, 2004, at 11:38:32
Sandy -
Don't be ridiculous! You're not causing me any pain. We are all adults and are responsible for what we expose ourselves to or get involved in. Where else can you write the kind of stuff you did the other night and still be totally accepted like you are with all of us?!?!?!? :-) I hope that if I ever got to that point, I could continue posting too.I am really sorry about your current situation. And that you have a hard time accepting help. I do understand the block you feel inside yourself about it. Can you move it around in your mind that you're doing this for your kids?
Have you been able to make any phone calls to arrange housing? Do you have a case worker who can help you?
Also, can you just flush any and all drugs of any kind that you have in your house?!?!? If you're gonna do this on your own, you've got to take measures to keep yourself safe. Someone wrote you that they think you don't want to end your life . . . just the pain. I understand that - I think we all do! Please flush anything that could hurt you permanently. What if the stuff you take just fries your brain and you become disabled instead of dying?
I still want to hear from you. You have my email and phone number. Do not hesitate to use it, okay?????
~ Lynne
Posted by lonelygirl on June 7, 2004, at 11:58:40
In reply to Sorry, posted by SandyWeb on June 7, 2004, at 11:38:32
Sandy,
I'm sorry you feel that way about accepting help. Can you imagine what the world would be like without people helping one another? Sometimes you give, and sometimes you take -- and sometimes the more you take, the more you are able to give.
It's your decision whether to continue posting on Babble... But it's also everyone else's individual decisions whether to read your (or anyone's) posts. You never forced anyone to read or respond to your posts; we did because we wanted to. And you are always free to change your mind, and always welcome in Open if you ever feel like chatting in "real-time."
Posted by TRUCKER on June 7, 2004, at 13:29:01
In reply to Re: Sorry » SandyWeb, posted by LynneDa on June 7, 2004, at 11:53:44
dear sandy,
someone told me that the last couple of times that the police were called on you to help you and protect yourself and your kids from yourself was fake!!! is this true.. when the police were called this time this is what they said.. that it was fake and if you keep pulling this you will be facing charges... something to think about.. also what if childrens services find out.. how will you keep your kids? JUST WONDERING.
MEADBABYBUG
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> Sandy -
> Don't be ridiculous! You're not causing me any pain. We are all adults and are responsible for what we expose ourselves to or get involved in. Where else can you write the kind of stuff you did the other night and still be totally accepted like you are with all of us?!?!?!? :-) I hope that if I ever got to that point, I could continue posting too.
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> I am really sorry about your current situation. And that you have a hard time accepting help. I do understand the block you feel inside yourself about it. Can you move it around in your mind that you're doing this for your kids?
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> Have you been able to make any phone calls to arrange housing? Do you have a case worker who can help you?
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> Also, can you just flush any and all drugs of any kind that you have in your house?!?!? If you're gonna do this on your own, you've got to take measures to keep yourself safe. Someone wrote you that they think you don't want to end your life . . . just the pain. I understand that - I think we all do! Please flush anything that could hurt you permanently. What if the stuff you take just fries your brain and you become disabled instead of dying?
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> I still want to hear from you. You have my email and phone number. Do not hesitate to use it, okay?????
> ~ Lynne
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Posted by TofuEmmy on June 7, 2004, at 17:46:35
In reply to Re: Sorry, posted by TRUCKER on June 7, 2004, at 13:29:01
Trucker - Sandy herself has posted at least once about the police threatening her with misdemeanor charges, so I'm sure she is aware of her situation.
Regardless of all the details, it is clear that Sandy is having a hard time right now. There are two sides to every story...at least!
As far as I'm concerned, this IS a support network, and that's what we are here to do.
Emmy
Posted by GARDENERGIRL on June 7, 2004, at 20:38:10
In reply to Re: Sorry » TRUCKER, posted by TofuEmmy on June 7, 2004, at 17:46:35
SANDY,
I COULD TELL FROM THE OTHER NIGHT AND CONTINUING, THAT YOU ARE REALLY HURTING. I WISH YOU WOULD ACCEPT HELP FROM THOSE WHO CAN HELP YOU. SOMETIMES I THINK PROBLEMS GET TOO BIG FOR BABBLE ALONE. THAT'S WHEN I THINK IT IS SO HELPFUL TO HAVE A PDOC OR A T. WOULD YOU CONSIDER "HIRING" A PROFESSIONAL TO HELP YOU OUT? YOU COULD CONSIDER THEM TO BE A COACH OR A CONSULTANT FOR YOU IN PROBLEM-SOLVING.
REGARDLESS, PLEASE TAKE CARE.
GG
Posted by gardenergirl on June 8, 2004, at 9:16:41
In reply to Re: Sorry, posted by GARDENERGIRL on June 7, 2004, at 20:38:10
Posted by michaelrobert123 on June 8, 2004, at 21:27:32
In reply to Re: Sorry » TRUCKER, posted by TofuEmmy on June 7, 2004, at 17:46:35
trucker is trying to be helpful. i think the help she gets here is preventing her from getting real help
Posted by trucker627 on June 8, 2004, at 22:20:58
In reply to And Another Thing Jlynne...., posted by SandyWeb on June 2, 2004, at 21:08:13
hey folks
Posted by LynneDa on June 9, 2004, at 9:25:59
In reply to Re: Sorry, posted by michaelrobert123 on June 8, 2004, at 21:27:32
michaelrobert:
Would you mind elaborating on your comment? I am curious to know whether I correctly understand it.I don't deny that Trucker is trying to be helpful through being realistic. I think Trucker is a wise woman who's faced a lot of demons herself and knows of what she speaks!
I think what you mean is that if a person is buoyed up to a certain point, perhaps by support such as we give here, they won't ever sink low enough to reach out for the help they really need. I divorced my husband because of that very principle, among other reasons. Unfortunately, he still hasn't hit rock bottom in the way that you hope will force someone to seek proper help.
I truly don't know why Sandy won't get the kind of help we all think she needs and that puzzles and disturbs me greatly. We email off of Babble. I don't know her "diagnosis"; I don't know the other circumstances of her situation. But I do know that, whether she is "acting out" to get attention or truly as bad as she sounds, she is legitimately hurting and in a very bad place in her life. Support, encouragement & "email friendship" are what we offer to her. Could this really be impeding her from picking up the phone for help or admitting herself into a psych hospital?
Any suggestions? She's taken herself off of Babble. We'll see what happens. I hope it all turns out for the best, as I hope the same for the rest of us who are struggling with mental illness or because of it.
~ Lynne
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trucker is trying to be helpful. i think the help she gets here is preventing her from getting real help
Posted by michaelrobert123 on June 9, 2004, at 13:13:29
In reply to Re: Sorry » michaelrobert123, posted by LynneDa on June 9, 2004, at 9:25:59
i think if she doesn't get help here she will reach out profesionally...and i am sorry if that reminds you of your ex.
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> Would you mind elaborating on your comment? I am curious to know whether I correctly understand it.
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> I don't deny that Trucker is trying to be helpful through being realistic. I think Trucker is a wise woman who's faced a lot of demons herself and knows of what she speaks!
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> I think what you mean is that if a person is buoyed up to a certain point, perhaps by support such as we give here, they won't ever sink low enough to reach out for the help they really need. I divorced my husband because of that very principle, among other reasons. Unfortunately, he still hasn't hit rock bottom in the way that you hope will force someone to seek proper help.
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> I truly don't know why Sandy won't get the kind of help we all think she needs and that puzzles and disturbs me greatly. We email off of Babble. I don't know her "diagnosis"; I don't know the other circumstances of her situation. But I do know that, whether she is "acting out" to get attention or truly as bad as she sounds, she is legitimately hurting and in a very bad place in her life. Support, encouragement & "email friendship" are what we offer to her. Could this really be impeding her from picking up the phone for help or admitting herself into a psych hospital?
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> Any suggestions? She's taken herself off of Babble. We'll see what happens. I hope it all turns out for the best, as I hope the same for the rest of us who are struggling with mental illness or because of it.
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Posted by LynneDa on June 9, 2004, at 13:36:00
In reply to Re: Sorry, posted by michaelrobert123 on June 9, 2004, at 13:13:29
I hope so.
Don't worry about the ex, we actually have a very decent relationship due to our daughter. He's a nice guy, but exasperating and the best is that he's not really my problem anymore ... relief!
~ Lynne
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i think if she doesn't get help here she will reach out profesionally...and i am sorry if that reminds you of your ex.
Posted by michaelrobert123 on June 9, 2004, at 13:40:00
In reply to Re: Sorry » michaelrobert123, posted by LynneDa on June 9, 2004, at 13:36:00
i am glad that you parted as friends then. the other way can be very stressful and its easier on all involved
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Posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2004, at 22:46:11
In reply to Re: And Another Thing Jlynne...., posted by trucker627 on June 8, 2004, at 22:20:58
> hey folks
Please don't post under more than one name at the same time:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#names
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by TofuEmmy on June 10, 2004, at 8:03:04
In reply to Re: Sorry, posted by michaelrobert123 on June 9, 2004, at 13:40:00
Is that was Bob's message means???? Is MichaelRobert really Trucker? When Michael came to Open asking about Sandy, was that really Trucker????? I hope I'm wrong....this is all so sad. I really need a Babble vacation.
Jeepers :-(
Posted by simus on June 10, 2004, at 8:53:34
In reply to Are you really Trucker???!? » michaelrobert123, posted by TofuEmmy on June 10, 2004, at 8:03:04
> Is that was Bob's message means???? Is MichaelRobert really Trucker? When Michael came to Open asking about Sandy, was that really Trucker????? I hope I'm wrong....this is all so sad. I really need a Babble vacation.
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> Jeepers :-(I think that the two names that Dr. Bob were talking about are TRUCKER and trucker627, but I am not sure.
Posted by TofuEmmy on June 10, 2004, at 9:51:14
In reply to Re: Are you really Trucker???!? » TofuEmmy, posted by simus on June 10, 2004, at 8:53:34
I think the problem with 2 id's is switching back and forth between 2. I don't think that's happening with trucker and trucker627. I think that's just an id change.
Heck, maybe I'm just just watching too many detective shows. Especially that one on Sunday night with Vincent D'Onofrio...he is so gorgeous! Ok, that cheered me. :-)
I think I'll spend my summer vacation in search of that man. Em
Posted by karen_kay on June 10, 2004, at 9:59:40
In reply to IDs and stuff » simus, posted by TofuEmmy on June 10, 2004, at 9:51:14
mmmmm. you cheered me up too :)
Posted by antigua on June 10, 2004, at 14:03:19
In reply to mr d'onofrio! » TofuEmmy, posted by karen_kay on June 10, 2004, at 9:59:40
Sorry, you guys can't have him, he's my own private fantasy: the intelligent man who sees everything. I'm hoping he can figure me out. But.. of course, I'd have to commit a crime first.. Sorry, you'll have to find someone else.
antigua
Posted by TofuEmmy on June 10, 2004, at 14:55:30
In reply to Re: Are you really Trucker???!? » TofuEmmy, posted by simus on June 10, 2004, at 8:53:34
Well, I'm sure there is a logical explanation for Bob's post. Maybe Trucker felt unwelcome in Open under her own name? If that's the case, that's just dang awful. Everyone should feel welcome there. I feel like crud about this. I shoulda minded my own beeswax! (duh...hind sight)
I'm so sorry Trucker, Michael, Sandy, Bob, Simus, LynnDa, JLynn, and everyone else.
I need a vacation.
Em
Posted by LynneDa on June 10, 2004, at 14:57:34
In reply to Re: Am I really Trucker?, posted by TofuEmmy on June 10, 2004, at 14:55:30
Em - don't feel badly, you didn't do anything wrong :-)
~ Lynne
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> I'm so sorry Trucker, Michael, Sandy, Bob, Simus, LynnDa, JLynn, and everyone else.
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Posted by spoc on June 10, 2004, at 18:59:44
In reply to Re: Am I really Trucker?, posted by TofuEmmy on June 10, 2004, at 14:55:30
> Well, I'm sure there is a logical explanation for Bob's post. Maybe Trucker felt unwelcome in Open under her own name? If that's the case, that's just dang awful. Everyone should feel welcome there. I feel like crud about this. I shoulda minded my own beeswax! (duh...hind sight)
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> Em<<<<<< I think there is a logical explanation for Bob's post, likely involving the 627. That's the name Bob directed his instruction to, he could have directed it to "Michael." But regardless, even if they were all the same person, I agree you shouldn't feel bad about anything Emmy. You've got to know many had strong opinions they would have liked to express, but it wrapped up and passed quickly. And given a choice, people often just prefer not to get involved. And then poof, it was addressed and over.
NOW. About Vince baby. I don't follow any TV series or celebrity stuff, but recently happened upon that show and was also, like, way totally knocked out by him. I thought maybe it was just me -- I should have known better. And ya know whose mannerisms/inflections/eccentricities his remind me of? John Malkovich. That's a good thing.
Anyway, shoo girls (and guys for that matter!). I don't say this often, but I think I want this one. ;- )
Posted by karen_kay on June 11, 2004, at 16:37:08
In reply to Re: D'onofrio, etc., posted by spoc on June 10, 2004, at 18:59:44
well, if you get mr. d'onofrio, then i call chevy chase, paul simon, billy bob thornton (sling blade era, thank you) and kevin spacey (and can i throwin vince vaugh every once in a while? that bad-boy image drives me crazy)!!!!
so, i'll allow you to have mr d'onofrio (EVEN though i've been recording that series since i was in diapers, which was just a few years ago i think) because i care spoc. but, now you have to fight emmy for him and i have a feeling she isn't going to give up that easily. but, DO KNOW, if anyone (and i MEAN anyone) tries to take mr chase, mr paul simon, mr thornton, mr spacey OR mr vaugh (when i'm ready to play with him) from me, the claws will come out and i'll capture mr d'onofio just for spite.
so spoc, have at him. he's all yours. but, he seems to be a romantic, so try to catch him by showing your class, charm and sensitive side. it may help to commit a crime too (which i'd consider doing just to capture that man :)
Posted by spoc on June 11, 2004, at 18:19:17
In reply to Re: D'onofrio, etc. » spoc, posted by karen_kay on June 11, 2004, at 16:37:08
> so, i'll allow you to have mr d'onofrio (EVEN though i've been recording that series since i was in diapers, which was just a few years ago i think) because i care spoc. but, now you have to fight emmy for him and i have a feeling she isn't going to give up that easily...
<<<<< YEAH I hear you, I mean I don't know what the chances are she'll hand over a man when I can't even get her to hand over the Fritos. She held the bag out and everything, I even went and got a soft drink. How gullible I was. Geez, what is it with this place? I'll wait and wait, then I suppose next I'll get some answer like this, with all those dots after it:
"I think it's good to be flexible..."
"Sometimes another crunchy snack will do just as well..."
"I'm sorry, what was the question?"
ENOUGH! I'll just go make a voodoo doll out of tofu and stick pins in it, then she'll have a mysterious tummy ache and I'll get ALL the Fritos... AND the man! (Pity how tummy upset can throw off those romantic moments.)
Posted by TofuEmmy on June 11, 2004, at 19:20:03
In reply to Re: D'onofrio, etc. » karen_kay, posted by spoc on June 11, 2004, at 18:19:17
Oh...well....fine...!
Eat the fritos hon, but I'm doing something along those same lines with a certain Vincent. ;-)
And regarding the voodoo tofu doll, probably best to use the pre-marinated, pre-baked kind else it shan't hold it's shape well. You KNOW how I love giving advice!
And regarding ruining my future romantic moments...dot...dot...dot...I haven't had one of those since the Beatles were together. No amount of intestinal discomfort you can throw at me via your voodoo will do anything except perhaps peel the paint from my walls. :-)
......Emmy
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