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Posted by judy1 on January 9, 2004, at 11:36:24
but I'm concerned that you're getting drawn into a childish (and very hurtful) thread that has been promised to get even more hurtful and childish. I honestly think that Dr. Bob responded in the only way he could to that post, and I guess what you view as double standards, I view as the only way he could deal with it. I've seen it before, posters pushing the envelope- how is that supportive to the others who post here? I am in awe of what you do everyday, all the support you give vs. PB's brand of 'shock radio' that's currently playing. Hopefully, I haven't overstepped my bounds- as I wrote I'm just concerned about you posting thinking you are treated or thought of as less then anyone else here, that is just totally untrue.
please take care, judy
Posted by judy1 on January 9, 2004, at 11:48:54
In reply to Dinah, I didn't want to post this on PBA, posted by judy1 on January 9, 2004, at 11:36:24
I've been around here almost 6 years (I thought it was 7, but Dr. Bob answered PB has been here since '98) and I've seen changes I would like to write to you about if you don't mind.
thanks, judy
Posted by Dinah on January 9, 2004, at 12:05:55
In reply to p.s.- would you mind posting your e-mail again?, posted by judy1 on January 9, 2004, at 11:48:54
You are, of course, right. And wise as usual. I wish I could heed your advice. :(
My email is bullyforyou77 and I'm at Yahoo.
Posted by Karen_kay on January 9, 2004, at 12:09:02
In reply to Dinah, I didn't want to post this on PBA, posted by judy1 on January 9, 2004, at 11:36:24
Dinah,
I agree with Judy. But, I don't want to get pushed back into anything again, it just makes me "Angry Karen" and I don't like that! :)
But, I have to agree that you are very supportive here, one of the most supportive posters! You've never once let me down! And I'm always amazed at the way you somehow challenge my own thoughts for me and I begin to see thing straight once again. I just want you to know how much you are appreciated here, and it's not just by me!
Posted by Dinah on January 9, 2004, at 17:12:15
In reply to Re: Dinah, I didn't want to post this on PBA, posted by Karen_kay on January 9, 2004, at 12:09:02
I'm glad I manage to challenge your thoughts. I wish I could say that was my intention. :) But I like your thoughts just fine. You have a way of coming up with deep insights about yourself that I really really admire.
Posted by Karen_kay on January 9, 2004, at 17:26:40
In reply to Re: Thank you. :) » Karen_kay, posted by Dinah on January 9, 2004, at 17:12:15
You don't challenge all of my thoughts of course. If you did, I wouldn't hold you in such high regard :) I think you help me to take another look at my posts and a deeper look at my thoughts. I can name 2 examples right now, off the top of my head. I just want you to know how much you are appreciated here. Also, another thing...You said (or wrote rather [to be technical]) about being too wrapped up to notice that I was feeling a bit down last night. That's OK!!! You've come through SO many times in the past, let someone else take over for a change! I wont hold it against you, this time :)
Thanks for ALWAYS being here!
Karen
Posted by Jai Narayan on January 11, 2004, at 10:55:37
In reply to Dinah, I didn't want to post this on PBA, posted by judy1 on January 9, 2004, at 11:36:24
> I honestly think that Dr. Bob responded in the only way he could to that post, and I guess what you view as double standards, I view as the only way he could deal with it.
<I totally agree with this perspective.
Plus I am in awe at how you and Dr. Bob can do this day in and day out.
You both must have grown and learned so much about communication in the time you have done this.
It's such a fine line between support and not hitting the support nail on the head.
I guess you just do the best you can.
I personally like your gentle kindness.
Posted by Dinah on January 11, 2004, at 11:33:56
In reply to Dinah you are warm supportive, posted by Jai Narayan on January 11, 2004, at 10:55:37
My therapist might disagree about the gentle though. :)
Posted by Karen_kay on January 11, 2004, at 15:08:52
In reply to Re: Thanks :) » Jai Narayan, posted by Dinah on January 11, 2004, at 11:33:56
My therapist might disagree about the gentle though. :)
*Now Dinah, I really think if I were to call your therapist he may disagree with that statement. Don't tempt me girlie.... *Waiting with telephone in hand*
Judging by your posts, I highly doubt you're anything but warm and caring. (Now don't get all mushy on me here either) Unless you've been deceiving us this whole time and in fact are really a 400 lb bald guy named Bubba, with foul body odor? I doubt that you could "fake" the caring and gentleness that shines through in every post Dinah. Just as I can hardly disguise the pettiness that sometimes leaks out, though I wish it wouldn't (And please don't comment and disagree with that last phrase! I know it's true and wouldn't have it any other way! That's me and I like it! :)
Posted by Dinah on January 11, 2004, at 15:56:45
In reply to Dinah, don't make me call T » Dinah, posted by Karen_kay on January 11, 2004, at 15:08:52
I like you just the way you are, Karen. And wouldn't have you change anything, unless it's causing you difficulty. It's all part of your not inconsiderable charm. Actually one of the things I like most about you is that you accept yourself the way I'd like to accept myself.
I was just recalling my recent phone call with him where I told him off royally (see above). I don't think he'd think of me as gentle right now. :)
Posted by Karen_kay on January 11, 2004, at 17:19:37
In reply to Re: Dinah, don't make me call T » Karen_kay, posted by Dinah on January 11, 2004, at 15:56:45
Dinah, I assure you I'm not always this blunt either. In "real life" I'm very passive-agressive towards some people (Ah, who, me?). Yes, it's true! I tend to pick my battles wisely but at other times I will sit and stew in my own BS. And others know that I'm very angry but I lie through clenched teeth and a smile and say, "Oh, heavens, I'm not mad. Would you like a cookie? Oh, it seems I've eaten them all." When in fact I have plenty, I'm just not giving them any! Or I'll promise someone something but if they make me angry before it comes "delivery time" I'll say I've given it away or hope they forget about it or come up with some other excuse to "punish them." Rather than just talk about things, I think they should know why I would be mad. And if they ask if I'm mad, I deny it. They should just apologize, hello! Somehow an apology wouldn't be enough either. They should fall at my feet and beg forgiveness. Yes, that would do nicely! :) And don't think that smiley face makes that statement a joke!
Anyway, your therapist deserved a lashing for that! I don't think I would have been able to bring it up quite so suddenly, I would have pulled the whole "stew in my anger for about 3 months and teach him-deal." But I'm glad you did. It made him realize that his request was hurtful. Maybe I could learn from your directiveness. It isn't that you aren't gentle, quite the contrary. It's just that his request seemed a bit extreme and you pointing it out made him realize it! Good job to you! If only we could all do that with consistency and accuracy!
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