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Posted by KellyD on December 30, 2003, at 0:35:11
My self imposed hiatus has been difficult to maintain, as I do like this community. However, I feel my "leave" will need to become a long term one. This isn't an easy decision. It has nothing to do with the majority of activity and posters here and I have been aided and supported by so many of you. I am so grateful. I simply can't be exposed to some of the activity here. Falling prey to a number of "negative cognitions", I foresee the future based on the past. Those of you exposed to some of the history here... I hope can know what I'm writing about ..... I'm trying to be civil.
I have felt safe a number of times and everytime, that's EVERYTIME, I feel really comfortable, something from the past will distrub this level of comfort I have enjoyed. I'm tired of the same cycle. I have wounds that open and healing doesn't seem to occur with time.
I take responsibility for my responses as they are mine.
You all please care for yourselves. I have enjoyed this community.
Kelly
Posted by zenhussy on December 30, 2003, at 0:53:43
In reply to Thank you, all and goodbye....., posted by KellyD on December 30, 2003, at 0:35:11
>My self imposed hiatus has been difficult to maintain, as I do like this community. However, I feel my "leave" will need to become a long term one. This isn't an easy decision. It has nothing to do with the majority of activity and posters here and I have been aided and supported by so many of you. I am so grateful. I simply can't be exposed to some of the activity here. Falling prey to a number of "negative cognitions", I foresee the future based on the past. Those of you exposed to some of the history here... I hope can know what I'm writing about ..... I'm trying to be civil.
>I have felt safe a number of times and everytime, that's EVERYTIME, I feel really comfortable, something from the past will distrub this level of comfort I have enjoyed. I'm tired of the same cycle. I have wounds that open and healing doesn't seem to occur with time.
>I take responsibility for my responses as they are mine.
>You all please care for yourselves. I have enjoyed this community.
>KellyKelly,
Take care and I hope you find support elsewhere in addition to your offline life. Yes you have seen the writing on the wall. The archives are full of this strife.
The community as a whole is a concept I cannot comment on as it would not be civil but you might want to read this:
"It's hard to argue against "mercy". But I'm trying to think of the community as a whole and not just one individual. Who, after all, is free to go elsewhere for support. "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few."" Bob http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020308/msgs/4118.html
I hear you about the past telling the future. This has been a long slow decline as this board grows and the nature of the "research" was tainted from the beginning.
I'm available through PB Open if you want my e-mail address. Otherwise please know you're fondly thought of after you leave.
I still think about and miss supportive posters who were very present here in 2000 and 2001 who no longer participate due to administrative conflicts. (I think the mass exodus began in 2002 for the original people who started out on this board)
Take care and if possible I would like to stay in touch with you.
zh
Posted by Kalamatianos on December 30, 2003, at 1:16:04
In reply to Thank you, all and goodbye....., posted by KellyD on December 30, 2003, at 0:35:11
Epictetus (c. 50–138 AD) was born a slave in the Greek-speaking Roman province of Phrygia, in what is now central Turkey.
One day when Epictetus was working in the fields chained to an iron stake, his master approached him with the idea of tightening his leg shackle. Epictetus suggested that making the shackle tighter was not needed to keep him from running away, but would merely break his leg. The master was not persuaded, and sure enough Epictetus's leg was broken. But he did not protest or give any sign of distress. His master asked him why, and was told that since the leg was already irreversibly broken, there was really no point in getting upset about it.
His master was so impressed by this demonstration of unflappability that he eventually set Epictetus free, and sent him away with money so he could become an itinerant philosopher. Epictetus considered this preferable to being a philosopher chained to a stake, and eventually came to Rome, the capital of the Western world in those days. Among the prominent Romans he influenced was the emperor Marcus Aurelius.
>>> One foot in the past and the other foot in the future leaves me poised perfectly to take a dump on today!
Posted by zenhussy on December 30, 2003, at 1:18:22
In reply to Re: Thank you, all and goodbye..... » KellyD, posted by zenhussy on December 30, 2003, at 0:53:43
Ok, we have this from April 12, 2002:
---"It's hard to argue against "mercy". But I'm trying to think of the community as a whole and not just one individual. Who, after all, is free to go elsewhere for support. "The good of the many outweighs the good of the few."
Bob" http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020308/msgs/4118.html
Now we have this from November 1, 2002:---"The issue here, IMO, is balancing the needs of posters and readers. Expressing their pain in an uncivil way may help the poster and some readers, but may hurt other readers. And in general, I'd rather have fewer people helped than more people hurt. ...Bob" http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/8066.html
But then on August 6, 2003:
---"Sorry about that. I know, it might be better to say "please post only civil messages" or something like that to differentiate between the behavior, which is the issue, and the person, which isn't. But "please be civil" is more succinct and has become a kind of tradition...
>what I object to is the consequences of blocking someone from a certain "therapy" (which I believe this board provides).<
I regret that, too, but "the good of the many outweighs the good of the few":
http://www.starfleet.4mg.com/episodes/movies/2.htm
Bob" http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20030508/msgs/248591.htmlSo Kelly I don't know what to tell you with that kind of crazy making policy around here.
I hope you take care and do what is best for you to maintain sanity.
zh
Posted by Emme on December 30, 2003, at 1:34:25
In reply to Thank you, all and goodbye....., posted by KellyD on December 30, 2003, at 0:35:11
To All,
I am really sorry if my frantic post today unseated anyone, especially Kelly. That was an awful lot of negativity. Sometimes all the worry just spews out and I'm not mindful enough of how it might impact other people.
All the emotions were overwhelming. But I should have added that I was mostly needing to air the self-destructive feelings. I'm distressed, but I've got a lid on it right now.
Again, I'm sorry about the intensity of what I wrote and thank you to the people who responded and gave really good advice.
I'm going to miss seeing Kelly here.
Emme
Posted by Dinah on December 30, 2003, at 1:45:02
In reply to Thank you, all and goodbye....., posted by KellyD on December 30, 2003, at 0:35:11
But I do understand...
May blessings fill your journey, and if you ever decide it's best for you to come back, I'll be happy to see you.
Very sincerely,
Dinah
Posted by Dinah on December 30, 2003, at 1:46:26
In reply to I was thoughtless, posted by Emme on December 30, 2003, at 1:34:25
If not here, where? We all know what it feels like.
Posted by Emme on December 30, 2003, at 2:04:32
In reply to Re: Not at all thoughtless » Emme, posted by Dinah on December 30, 2003, at 1:46:26
Posted by Dr. Bob on December 30, 2003, at 11:01:37
In reply to Re:fewer helped? more hurt? good of many? wtf? , posted by zenhussy on December 30, 2003, at 1:18:22
> So Kelly I don't know what to tell you with that kind of crazy making policy around here.
I'd like follow-ups regarding posting policies to be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration, thanks.
Bob
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