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Posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:28:36
I'm not going to be up too much longer but I did see this: ...i guess ill find somewehre to blah blah blah about my dumb problems.
in your post [Sorry to interupt] in the thread above.First off your problems aren't dumb. So now that that is out of the way...I'm not real up on any chat rooms that work reliably so if you want to say anything here about what's going on I'll be around for a short while.
Take care.
zenhussy
Posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:34:34
In reply to Ms. Sienna? Oh Ms. Sienna? Yoohooo, posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:28:36
Posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:36:01
In reply to hi zen (nm) » zenhussy, posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:34:34
Posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:36:38
In reply to hi zen (nm) » zenhussy, posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:34:34
It is really good to see you here. Wow what a lot of stuff you have gone through this year. ive had an equaly bizarre year in my head, but not with so much reality.
i thought i was better but apparenaltly im still as crazy as ever.
how are you doing, have you been lost in love, i was for a bit.
sienna
Posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:41:23
In reply to Re: hi zen and a hey back atcha sienna : ) (nm), posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:36:01
......im delirious though...
Posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:44:25
In reply to Re: hi zen, posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:36:38
> It is really good to see you here. Wow what a lot of stuff you have gone through this year.
Yeah it has been Mr. Toad's Wild Ride this year.
>ive had an equaly bizarre year in my head, but not with so much reality.
What is reality anyway? I haven't always been in touch with this reality that the masses speak of. Just keep working at getting to a place that you feel comfortable at. Keep trying to get people into your life that are supportive and not energy/emotional vampires.
> i thought i was better but apparenaltly im still as crazy as ever.
Crazy as in you feel different than others? Or crazy as in your mental illness? (forgive me sienna but I don't have the cognitive ability to archive search right now to find out any backgroud dx or rx for you)
> how are you doing, have you been lost in love, i was for a bit.
> siennaI'm just barely hanging in there dear. It's been a real rough go since October with meds and therapy and doctors and such. All people with good intentions but scary when one doesn't feel in control of such situations like I did. It felt like it was happening to me when in fact that was just a distortion of the disease. The distorted thinking that depression brings. Sigh.
Yes, I have been lost in love. Is there more to that now that you want to get into? Or shall we just commiserate about how crazy it can feel to be lost in love?
You tell me hon.
zh
Posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:46:19
In reply to hehe that was a quickie to let ya know im here, posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:41:23
> ......im delirious though...
What's going on sienna? Medication related? Mania coming on? Emotional big boom kind of thing?
(((sienna)))
zh
Posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:50:08
In reply to Of course I've been lost in love! » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:44:25
well, my boyfriend fought and took some time off and just when it got better some and he told me (but somehow it went over my head) that he wanted to talk to me and somehow i aaccidnetlaly got shootfaced drunk and went running into traffic to get away from him. haveint had any real issues like that for so long, i guess its bad to pretend you are something your not.
im ruining it. and i dont know ...
Posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:51:32
In reply to ......im delirious though... » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:46:19
just sad is all. scared its all starting up again. i really liked feeling like a normal person for a while. with a boyfriend and all. but its to big and elusive and hard to hold onto.
sienna
Posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:56:52
In reply to Of course I've been lost in love! » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 18, 2003, at 23:44:25
> Yeah it has been Mr. Toad's Wild Ride this year.I never got to try that one but heard it was the best
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> What is reality anyway? I haven't always been in touch with this reality that the masses speak of. Just keep working at getting to a place that you feel comfortable at. Keep trying to get people into your life that are supportive and not energy/emotional vampires.
Very true.
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>
> Crazy as in you feel different than others? Or crazy as in your mental illness? (forgive me sienna but I don't have the cognitive ability to archive search right now to find out any backgroud dx or rx for you)Yeah, i dont relaly know whats wrong with me. Its alway been something, but never was the truth told to me i dont think. or to them. In any case its all a guessing game i think. I feel crazy out of control and unable to function like most peeopl i guess.
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> I'm just barely hanging in there dear. It's been a real rough go since October with meds and therapy and doctors and such. All people with good intentions but scary when one doesn't feel in control of such situations like I did. It felt like it was happening to me when in fact that was just a distortion of the disease. The distorted thinking that depression brings. Sigh.Yes i do know what you mean. Phooey I hugely dislike mental illness. I have so many words to say, but i think id get banned. Distortion.....
> Yes, I have been lost in love. Is there more to that now that you want to get into? Or shall we just commiserate about how crazy it can feel to be lost in love?im lost in love, but i think ive scared him running out of my life.
Posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:04:35
In reply to Re: Of course I've been lost in love!, posted by sienna on November 18, 2003, at 23:56:52
sienna,
One quick truth I can put out there right now before I go fetch my reading glasses to better read your other posts...
if love is meant to be it will be
I've felt as if my craziness has run off many loves in my life. Many stuck around despite my best banshee impressions and lunatic ravings.
So I have faith that if it is meant to be then it can be allowed to breathe, take a rest, and then resume with communication and reciprocal respect for one another.
Peace sweetie.
zh
Posted by sienna on November 19, 2003, at 0:06:58
In reply to one quick truth » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:04:35
you are so right. its just...ive never had that.
but maybe this will be it. he did say he would be sad if we broke up. wierd because i thougt he hated me.sienna
Posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:11:14
In reply to Re: one quick truth » zenhussy, posted by sienna on November 19, 2003, at 0:06:58
> you are so right. its just...ive never had that.
> but maybe this will be it. he did say he would be sad if we broke up. wierd because i thougt he hated me.
>
> siennasienna dear,
He may be confused, upset, perhaps even angry but I sincerely doubt he hates you.
If I may be so bold as to suggest and assume that a thought like that is just a distortion and you aren't always plagued by such distortions nor will you always be. So for now do try to take as much compassion as you have in your heart for fuzzy kittens and cuddly puppies and turn that compassion upon yourself.
You deserve it. Please be kind to yourself. No one hates you. And if they do then they are nitwits who just are not hip. So neener neener to them!
((((((sienna)))))))
zh
Posted by sienna on November 19, 2003, at 0:14:30
In reply to I can guarantee he does not hate you » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:11:14
zen you are so smart.
i think you are right. how does a relationship last? is it only a good relationship if it doesnt take work? ours takes work. but i dont mind. hes perfect. not really but i cant imagine anyone esle.
i wish we could learn to read minds.
sienna
Posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:26:25
In reply to Re: I can guarantee he does not hate you, posted by sienna on November 19, 2003, at 0:14:30
> zen you are so smart.
Wow. Now that is just wild to read when I'm as tired and worn out as I am. I do not feel smart. But again---thank you. *smile*
> i think you are right. how does a relationship last? is it only a good relationship if it doesnt take work? ours takes work. but i dont mind. hes perfect. not really but i cant imagine anyone esle.
If it doesn't take work then it will die. If we don't eat and nourish our bodies then we suffer and will eventually die. If we have a house plant we don't water or fertilize then it will suffer and die. So naturally if we do not tend to a relationship then it will suffer....both people in the relationship will suffer and the relationship can eventually die. It has happened to me. It is very sad. But I have learned that any relationship in my life that is worth saving and tending to takes work....and sometimes that work isn't fun nor is it gratifying.
That is until later on when you can look back and see what it is that you and your partner have come through together. To me that is a relationship.
sienna, he is *not* perfect. He might be incredibly handsome and have nice manners and present himself well but he is not perfect. Nobody is perfect. So any perceived flaws of the relationship you may be trying to take credit for can be put squarely on both of your shoulders. You are both in this relationship so both of you need to figure out how to move forward while supporting one another without losing yourself into one another. Make sense?
> i wish we could learn to read minds.
>
> siennaYou and me both girl! Mind reading. Now there's a trick I could use. Until then the best bet is to LEARN LEARN LEARN and PRACTICE communication skills. When you learn what exactly it is that you want and how to ask others for that then you are less likely to be let down. You will be able to communicate your needs to another and have that other communicate his needs to you. That to me sounds like a healthy way to start things. Two way talking. Two way LISTENING.
And remember to keep taking deep breaths and not let the nighttime turn a bummer situation into a nightmare situation. Cry and release emotions but don't beat yourself up.
That part of the night is over. It ended the second you started posting to me! No more sienna bashing!!
xoxo
zh
Posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:30:39
In reply to mind reading? you and me both sistah! » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:26:25
sienna sweetie,
I have to get to bed. It is half past when I said I would be trying to get to bed on this latest med I have begun. I'm trying to be consistent so that I give this a fair trial and a chance to do its chemical magic on me. Whee!
I'll be thinking sweet gentle thoughts your way tonight as I drift off. Take care and know that many care for you. Just look above at Stravos and femlite. People do care and are here.
I pray you get a good night's rest and have fresh eyes for tomorrow.
Take care.
zh
Posted by sienna on November 19, 2003, at 0:31:54
In reply to mind reading? you and me both sistah! » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:26:25
you are real good at this.
its hard for him to communicate. and i dont know how to draw him out. maybe we will begin learning now. its been so chaotic this last bit but i think we can try to fix things. if he wants too.
i dont know i think maybe you are right. we have to learn to help each other. and i have given so much i thik i need to teach him how to reciprocate. hes not a bad guy, he just doesnt seem to know what to do. hes seems scared of something or i dontknow.
sienna (who is so glad zenhussy has helped me think through this stuff) (thanks)
Posted by sienna on November 19, 2003, at 0:34:01
In reply to 1/2 hr past bedtime and on new meds..tsk tsk on me, posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:30:39
i hope your new med is a wondrous thing. sleep well and let the dream fairies tell you some fascinating beautiful story about soemthing you love and remember in the morning. or at least let them be somewhat entertaining. =)
sienna
Posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:36:48
In reply to Re: mind reading? you and me both sistah!, posted by sienna on November 19, 2003, at 0:31:54
> you are real good at this.
> its hard for him to communicate. and i dont know how to draw him out. maybe we will begin learning now. its been so chaotic this last bit but i think we can try to fix things. if he wants too.
> i dont know i think maybe you are right. we have to learn to help each other. and i have given so much i thik i need to teach him how to reciprocate. hes not a bad guy, he just doesnt seem to know what to do. hes seems scared of something or i dontknow.
> sienna (who is so glad zenhussy has helped me think through this stuff) (thanks)Bingo! He needs tools to learn how to do this. As do you. As do I. As do many. We're all on this path together. No one has relationships all ironed out and can say to others "here is exactly how you do it!" Pish!
You're getting the hang of this toots! I am glad to see/read you thinking through this. It shows me that you are recognizing that this isn't 'your' craziness but a crazy situation.
Night now fer real! I'm to bed and that's that!
zh
Posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 1:32:02
In reply to Re: mind reading? you and me both sistah! » sienna, posted by zenhussy on November 19, 2003, at 0:36:48
I love that one. Especially the steamy red hell room after the head-on train collision.
Posted by zenhussy on November 20, 2003, at 17:07:35
In reply to Re: Did somebody mention Mr Toad's Wild Ride?, posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 1:32:02
> I love that one. Especially the steamy red hell room after the head-on train collision.
Oh dear me Tabitha,
It's been years since I've been on it and somehow I've blocked that out of my memory! It is rather fitting since that is a room I enter often with this depression/ptsd and these wild wacky gradual med changes I'm going through.
When is the last time you forked moola over to the Disney (insert copyright and trademarks here) Corporation? I think the last time I was at "the happiest place on earth" was 1983 or 1984.
Sakes alive now I've got this image of the steamy red hell room in my head and will be wondering if it is like the one in the ride. Perhaps a toad trip (baaad pun intended) to SoCal is in my near future! Thanks.
zenhussy
Posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 19:02:52
In reply to Mr Toad's Wild Ride and the steamy red hell room » tabitha, posted by zenhussy on November 20, 2003, at 17:07:35
My last disneyland trip was probably early 90s. I like to drag dates there and see if they can connect with their inner child. Mr Toad is my favorite attraction-- it's so low-tech, yet effective. I forget what happens after the hell room-- surely something pleasant?
Posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 19:12:11
In reply to Re: Mr Toad's Wild Ride and the steamy red hell room » zenhussy, posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 19:02:52
I guess it was demolished.
http://www.math.miami.edu/~jam/toad/
That's it, I'm never going to disneyland again.
Posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 19:18:56
In reply to Re: Mr Toad's Wild Ride is no more., posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 19:12:11
Posted by zenhussy on November 20, 2003, at 19:33:39
In reply to Re: nevermind-- it's the florida one that's gone. (nm), posted by tabitha on November 20, 2003, at 19:18:56
Whew! I was about to go off on a rant about the unhappiest place on earth if they took that ride out! Thanks for figuring that one out.
Like I said I'm gonna have to road trip now and do that inner child thing at Disneyland. Maybe I can relive the feelings I had when I visited the first time when I was five and got lost. Lost alone at Disneyland!!! Scary stuff for five years old.
Did any of the dates pass the inner child test? You don't have to answer if you don't want. Just wondering. I tend to use Legos as someone's inner child gauge. Out of the folks I've dated over the years the ones who didn't like Legos or playing with them with my charges or godkids didn't last long in my life. Inner child and silly wonder or yer outta here! is my motto.
zh
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