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Posted by susan C on July 30, 2001, at 13:57:28
In reply to Donating unused meds?, posted by Greg on July 30, 2001, at 13:02:18
There is somewhere that takes them and organizes them for overseas...I wish I could remember....maybe I will come across it. It is like donated mecdical supplies.
> I have a large collection of unsuccessful meds in my medicine cabinet (as I'm sure many of you do too). I hate to throw them away (I'm a pack rat). All of the expirations are still good. I was wondering if any of you know of somewhere I might donate them? I know that there are many who have trouble affording their meds and I hoping they might come in handy to someone. Maybe the Red Cross or some medical institution? Any ideas?
>
> And Bob, before you scold me, I'm not offering to mail them to anyone here. No hand-slapping is necessary...
>
> Greg
Posted by Kingfish on July 30, 2001, at 19:03:22
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds?, posted by susan C on July 30, 2001, at 13:57:28
A very good question, Greg. I also hate throwing mine away.
Thanks.
- K.
Posted by mgrueni on July 30, 2001, at 20:23:39
In reply to Donating unused meds?, posted by Greg on July 30, 2001, at 13:02:18
< I have a large collection of unsuccessful meds in my medicine cabinet (as I'm sure many of you do too). I hate to throw them away (I'm a pack rat). All of the expirations are still good. I was wondering if any of you know of somewhere I might donate them? I know that there are many who have trouble affording their meds and I hoping they might come in handy to someone. Maybe the Red Cross or some medical institution? Any ideas? >
- > Ask in your pharmacy
(or is that "drugstore/chemist" in USA?). German pharmacies have stopped organizing meds` donation because it became too expensive for the Help-organisations . They had *tons* of different types of meds and they needed hundreds of people to sort them, and had to pay for the annihilation of the lapsed or damaged meds, so they stopped doing so and are now being sponsored directly by the pharmaceutical companies.
But maybe US-pharmacies still collect meds and forward them to somewhere where they are needed?
Micha
Posted by SalArmy4me on July 31, 2001, at 0:03:59
In reply to Donating unused meds?, posted by Greg on July 30, 2001, at 13:02:18
Give them to an AIDS Hospice.
> I have a large collection of unsuccessful meds in my medicine cabinet (as I'm sure many of you do too). I hate to throw them away (I'm a pack rat). All of the expirations are still good. I was wondering if any of you know of somewhere I might donate them? I know that there are many who have trouble affording their meds and I hoping they might come in handy to someone. Maybe the Red Cross or some medical institution? Any ideas?
>
> And Bob, before you scold me, I'm not offering to mail them to anyone here. No hand-slapping is necessary...
>
> Greg
Posted by kazoo on July 31, 2001, at 0:41:13
In reply to Donating unused meds?, posted by Greg on July 30, 2001, at 13:02:18
meow
Posted by Simcha on July 31, 2001, at 8:13:58
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds? » Greg, posted by SalArmy4me on July 31, 2001, at 0:03:59
Great Idea!!!
I have almost a full bottle of EffexorXR 150mg. It seems like such a shame to waste it... I was wondering what I could do with it.. I think I'll try the treatment centers around town...
> Give them to an AIDS Hospice.
>
> > I have a large collection of unsuccessful meds in my medicine cabinet (as I'm sure many of you do too). I hate to throw them away (I'm a pack rat). All of the expirations are still good. I was wondering if any of you know of somewhere I might donate them? I know that there are many who have trouble affording their meds and I hoping they might come in handy to someone. Maybe the Red Cross or some medical institution? Any ideas?
> >
> > And Bob, before you scold me, I'm not offering to mail them to anyone here. No hand-slapping is necessary...
> >
> > Greg
Posted by Willow on July 31, 2001, at 11:11:37
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds? THROW THEM AWAY! (np) » Greg, posted by kazoo on July 31, 2001, at 0:41:13
If anyone has problems with impulse, sever anxiety, depression; meaning they may make a suicide attempt, then yes throw them away. Do not buy the mega size bottles etc.
But then on the flip side, there are people in Africa who have illnesses such as schizophrenia and cannot afford the medication to treat it. Shipping our unused meds is controversial, wether it'll do more harm than good. But it is an issue that shouldn't be ignored.
Another issue is the cost of these unused prescriptions to our health care plans and own pockets. Try to get samples from doctor first to see if you will stick with the med, especially the newer expensive ones. yaada-yaada-yaada
Whistling Willow
Posted by Ted on July 31, 2001, at 18:49:36
In reply to Donating unused meds?, posted by Greg on July 30, 2001, at 13:02:18
Here is what I did: I called my doctor and asked him if he knew who might want/need them. He told me to bring them to his office and he would give them to patients who could not afford the meds. That way, I was relieved of any liability, and the doctor had all of the needy patients imaginable.
Ted
> I have a large collection of unsuccessful meds in my medicine cabinet (as I'm sure many of you do too). I hate to throw them away (I'm a pack rat). All of the expirations are still good. I was wondering if any of you know of somewhere I might donate them? I know that there are many who have trouble affording their meds and I hoping they might come in handy to someone. Maybe the Red Cross or some medical institution? Any ideas?
>
> And Bob, before you scold me, I'm not offering to mail them to anyone here. No hand-slapping is necessary...
>
> Greg
Posted by Kingfish on July 31, 2001, at 18:53:33
In reply to pros and cons, posted by Willow on July 31, 2001, at 11:11:37
> This dawned on me after responding. It's a good and kind thought, but there are times when it is still not a good idea for me to have too many meds around. I suppose that was Kazoo's intention as well. If you could get them out the door immediately...
How scary.
- K.
Posted by kazoo on July 31, 2001, at 20:43:42
In reply to pros and cons, posted by Willow on July 31, 2001, at 11:11:37
Three of the best reasons for not sharing your stash:
1) "Transfer of this drug to any person other than whom it was prescribed is against federal law."
2) "Caution: Federal Law prohibits the transfer of this drug to any person other than the patient for whom it was prescribed."
3) If the recipient of your good intentions croaks, are you willing to deal with second degree manslaughter charges?
There are no "pros" with this issue, my dear.
THROW THEM OUT.
(a stern) kaZoo
Posted by Willow on August 1, 2001, at 0:19:55
In reply to Re: pros and convicted for sharing drugs » Willow, posted by kazoo on July 31, 2001, at 20:43:42
You may be stern with me anytime, if you answer one question for me.
What is your definition of honorable?
Bad Little Willow
Posted by kazoo on August 1, 2001, at 1:50:25
In reply to Kazoo? » kazoo, posted by Willow on August 1, 2001, at 0:19:55
> You may be stern with me anytime, if you answer one question for me.
>
> What is your definition of honorable?
>
> Bad Little Willow^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I'll let JULIUS HARE (1795-1855) answer that:
"Purity is the feminine, Truth the masculine, of Honour."
However, bear in mind that Mr. Hare also penned this one:
"Every Irishman has a potato in his head." so I bid you to consider the source.
I will never be stern with you, sweetie, unless, of course, you need a spanking!
I await, with ping-pong paddles in hand ...
Kazooooie
Posted by Willow on August 1, 2001, at 23:03:24
In reply to Re: Kazoo? You rang, my dear? » Willow, posted by kazoo on August 1, 2001, at 1:50:25
Okay who or what was the thing in the cave with the ring, in the book "The Hobbit?" He liked riddles. Precious? Or was he looking for Precious?
Your answer was not good enough, too much of a riddle for me!
Put your paddles away, my Precious.
Answer the question!!!
Twitching Willow
Posted by kazoo on August 2, 2001, at 0:48:19
In reply to Re: Kazoo? » kazoo, posted by Willow on August 1, 2001, at 23:03:24
> Okay who or what was the thing in the cave with the ring, in the book "The Hobbit?" He liked riddles. Precious? Or was he looking for Precious?
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> Your answer was not good enough, too much of a riddle for me!
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> Put your paddles away, my Precious.
>
> Answer the question!!!
>
> Twitching WillowI hated that book: I thought it was insultingly moronic.
And I'm not keen on riddles either. I can never figure them out. I would have been devoured by the Sphinx in no time flat (and likely been spit out, too).
An honorable person is one who politely tells someone that they don't answer questions.
Any questions?
kazooAnd for God's sake, stop twitching. You're making me nervous.
Posted by Simcha on August 2, 2001, at 7:57:21
In reply to Re: Kazoo? I need a name change ... any ideas? » Willow, posted by kazoo on August 2, 2001, at 0:48:19
> > Okay who or what was the thing in the cave with the ring, in the book "The Hobbit?" He liked riddles. Precious? Or was he looking for Precious?
> >
> > Your answer was not good enough, too much of a riddle for me!
> >
> > Put your paddles away, my Precious.
> >
> > Answer the question!!!
> >
> > Twitching Willow
>
> I hated that book: I thought it was insultingly moronic.
> And I'm not keen on riddles either. I can never figure them out. I would have been devoured by the Sphinx in no time flat (and likely been spit out, too).
> An honorable person is one who politely tells someone that they don't answer questions.
> Any questions?
> kazoo
>
> And for God's sake, stop twitching. You're making me nervous.
lol ;-)I loved those books.... Then again I'm a big fan of children's literature!!
The little creature is named "Sméagol" or in the vernacular "Gollum."
Yes, my precious... ;-)
Posted by Cam W. on August 2, 2001, at 7:59:09
In reply to Re: Kazoo? » kazoo, posted by Willow on August 1, 2001, at 23:03:24
Willow - It was Gollum. I found Lord of the Rings to be an excellent commentary on the political situation of the day. Much of what Tolkien said is very much relevant today. I read the trilogy, plus The Hobbit, at least every 5 years and learn something new each time.
- Cam
P.S. Willow, I am a pharmacist, I suck at diagnosis. Therefore, I am afraid that I could not be of much help in the "stutter" post. Besides, I am not in a very good place right now, and do need some time to "get my ducks in a row". Thanks for your understanding. - C.
Posted by Willow on August 2, 2001, at 17:18:21
In reply to Re: The Hobbit » Willow, posted by Cam W. on August 2, 2001, at 7:59:09
Cam
Of course I understand. I had found this board back in '98. (I posted under another name at the time.) And for a long time didn't post because it was too painful. It isn't the same situation. I don't know if you recall, tho when I was younger I worked in a pharmacy. Under no circumstances would we be able to say half the stuff that is said on this board, for the reasons you've stated. Hopefully people are aware that the advice thrown around is the same type you would get at a social gathering. When you are ready jump right back in Cam.I think they may be coming out with a computer animated film of the series. I definitely heard that they are making a game, the nintendo type.
Northern Willow
ps things are getting pretty dry here too. had a fire about 20 hectacres in the next township. it is still burning underground. only cut the lawn twice and then it dried up. on the bad side no more nightly campfires. lightning right now would be scary, though the weather is right for them.
Posted by Willow on August 2, 2001, at 21:58:35
In reply to Re: Kazoo? I need a name change ... any ideas? » Willow, posted by kazoo on August 2, 2001, at 0:48:19
You hated the book? Where is your sense of adventure? I thought it was well written, remember it like I took the journey myself. Are you grouchy? Something you want to talk about?
Your silence has answered the biggest question. And as for riddles, it seems like you speak in riddles to my foreign ears.
Why a name change? I'm partial to Kazoo. I wouldn't change a thing, not even your moods.
Love Willow
Posted by dreamer on August 4, 2001, at 10:49:46
In reply to Kazoo? , posted by Willow on August 2, 2001, at 21:58:35
catnip nice
Posted by Lorraine on August 4, 2001, at 22:22:12
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds? » SalArmy4me, posted by Simcha on July 31, 2001, at 8:13:58
I give my meds back to my pdoc who redistributes them to other patients who are starting the drug.
Posted by Willow on August 4, 2001, at 22:35:20
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds?, posted by Lorraine on August 4, 2001, at 22:22:12
> I give my meds back to my pdoc who redistributes them to other patients who are starting the drug.
Seems like the best solution, though I don't know if it is legal here in Canada. Cam you know?
Northern Willow
Posted by Cam W. on August 4, 2001, at 23:34:41
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds? Cam??, posted by Willow on August 4, 2001, at 22:35:20
Willow - I'm with kazoo on this one. In Alberta we have a system where people bring their unsed drugs to the pharmacy and put them in the "Dead Drug Jug", which is picked up twice a year and are taken to Swan Hills to be incinerated in an "environmentally friendly" way.
Flushing the drugs down the toilet is not a good idea because water treatment systems aren't equipped to treat this kind of shit < bad pun intended >.
Don't throw them in the garbage because animals can get into your cans (or at the landfill) and can get very sick (certain breeds of dogs love the smell of ibuprofen and will literally eat through a purse and the bottle to "wolf" down your Advil - for other dogs, ibuprofen doesn't seem to be toxic at all).
Feeding them, baked into pies, to unsuspecting relatives that you don't like is just downright nasty, and I believe, in Canada (and most states) is highly illegal and will net you a long jail term. < the preceding IS JUST a joke >
In Alberta (because I don't know the regulations in other provinces or states) we have signs posted in every pharmacy, "Due to the inherent danger of returning medications.....blah, blah, blah." This means that as soon as you leave the pharmacy with a prescription, we cannot take it back for reuse, by law. This all came about during the Tylenol tainting thing in the '80s. There are some not nice people in this world; and the risks of reusing drugs in new prescriptions is not worth the death of one person.
Also, many prescription drug vials do not have any expiry date on them. Even those that do, the expiry date varies with how you store your medications (ask me sometime on how to store your medication properly - I have written protocol on this for all group homes in Alberta - cool huh; I wrote a law).
I guess it is best to ask your pharmacist in your province or state how to best dispose of unused meds. You could also call or email the Pharmaceutical Association in your area to see what their policy on unsed and expired drugs is.
If really in doubt, take them to your next Toxic Waste Round-up, dunked into a can of old paint (not the horse).
Any questions? - Cam (who is getting a little loopy from being tired)
Posted by Willow on August 5, 2001, at 18:25:40
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds? - No! » Willow, posted by Cam W. on August 4, 2001, at 23:34:41
> Flushing the drugs down the toilet is not a good idea because water treatment systems aren't equipped to treat this kind of shit < bad pun intended >.
What if you are on a septic system?
> Don't throw them in the garbage because animals can get into your cans (or at the landfill) and can get very sick (certain breeds of dogs love the smell of ibuprofen and will literally eat through a purse and the bottle to "wolf" down your Advil - for other dogs, ibuprofen doesn't seem to be toxic at all).
A friend lives in a townhouse. When a neighbour moved out they left a lot of garbage out back. One of the bags was full of medications. Yes, children being curious got into them. They spent the night in hospital. No need to say it could of been worse.
>(ask me sometime on how to store your medication properly - I have written protocol on this for all group homes in Alberta - cool huh; I wrote a law).
With the temperatures going berserk, I'm sure I could use some hints on what to do with my stash. This thread has actually got me wandering about storage related to having children in the house. And they grow into teen-agers.
We should get you to start writing a book for the novice druggy, like myself!! (This is not a joke.)
> I guess it is best to ask your
I think the reply is flush them.
> Any questions? - Cam (who is getting a little loopy from being tired)
Do you know of any love potions? If not, how about an antidote?
Northern Willow
Posted by Cam W. on August 5, 2001, at 19:55:32
In reply to Re: Donating unused meds? - No!, posted by Willow on August 5, 2001, at 18:25:40
• Northern Willow:
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> What if you are on a septic system?
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• Good question. Ask the guys who suck it out what you should do. Depending on what the do with that "stuff", it could still get into the ground water.
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> With the temperatures going berserk, I'm sure I could use some hints on what to do with my stash. This thread has actually got me wandering about storage related to having children in the house. And they grow into teen-agers.
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• Most meds, especially the newer ones, need to be kept in a dark, cool, dry place (away from light, heat and humidity). This means not in the bathroom or kitchen. A locked drawer is best; in a den or bedroom. On the shelf in a closet You want the medication to be accessible, but at the same time, safe. Hide them in your underwear drawer (with those pictures that were taken when you were drunk that one night < wink >. Even if one does not have kids, it is best to have a degree of inaccessibility to your medications, just in case you have company with kids (or even the occasional dabbling adult, depending upon what medications are involved).
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> We should get you to start writing a book for the novice druggy, like myself!! (This is not a joke.)
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• I am having trouble getting my life together, let alone write a book. Besides many Pharmacy Associations and Poison Control Centres already produce pamphlets on these issues. Besides, where would I get the funding?
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> Do you know of any love potions? If not, how about an antidote?
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• Love potions are easy to make, but rhinoceros horn and good quality eye of gnut are harder to come by nowadays. I think I can find the mink penis bone, though.•As for the antidote, I think that any SSRI therapy will do.
Cam the Alchemist
Posted by susan C on August 5, 2001, at 20:10:49
In reply to Re: Destroying and Storing Meds » Willow, posted by Cam W. on August 5, 2001, at 19:55:32
Hide them in your underwear drawer (with those pictures that were taken one.... night < wink >
Have you been peeking in my windows? lol
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