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Posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 14:18:33
I was thinking bout babble.
Bout good things and bad things and hard things.
One thing thats hard, is that so many of us wish to be supportive of others, but are not always able to do so. We just have too much of our own 'stuff' going on.
But what I have found, that when I can help others, that it in fact helps me just as much.
It reminds me of stuff I need to remember myownself, it brings me self esteem, it just feels good to be kind to others.
The bad thing of babble is that it does sometime unexpectedly trigger me, and I kindof go 'off' a bit, but I find I am handling these events better all the time. I think, on the whole, the babble administration has eased up on what seemed to me at one time(maybe only my perception at the time...?) to be rather despotic rule. There seems to be more gentlness/acceptance administratively here. However, should I be blocked...whatch me change my tune!!! and cuss Bob to all ends of the earth.
The other bad thing of babble is that it can get quite time consuming to the point that I am not getting things done that I should...
AND(to keep this on psych board!!!lol!) I HAVE found it to be a useful adjunct to my therapy process. My T beleives it to be a good thing too.
I have learned ALOT here. There are ALOT of very knowledgable people here.
I however take all I hear with a grain of salt, as this IS the internet....
Also, I am very careful, and beleive all should be, of revealing any personal info. I have seen it to be a problem several times in the time I have been here on babble :-(
The other fascinating thing of babble is that babblers actually have met each other IRL!!! That is SO COOL! Even the moderator(Bob) has met many babblers, and in fact babblers have supported his work that he does in actual APA conventions!!!! This is all so cool.
Guess the other thing I am a little leery of is b-mail, I do use it, but sparingly. I am of the beleif that within this community, for the most part, if there's anything I have to say, it can be said to all. That keeps it open, safe, and is imformative to others. Its just i have seen a few times of bmail troubles here as well...
The other fun and useful thing to me is chat. It can be kindof a minefield, but is a lot freer in many ways. Its been EXTREEMLY useful and effective for me as a distraction when I need it from doing other less lifegiving things....
So chat, with care, is good. But best to be careful there a bit to.
I also try to be extreemly careful, for the most part, to speak only of myself, so as to not inadvertantly divulge info about other babblers that they might not wish to be said/known/spread about etc. I think that can be a prob in b-mail as well.
I hope this comes across ok. These are things I have been thinking of as I have not been able to post alot, and yet still I get wonderful support from you guys when I do.
YOU BABBLERS are THE BEST!
Thank you.
Any body else got intersting babble stories to tell? Eg, has it been useful in T? In what way? Etc?
M
Posted by Squiggles on November 21, 2007, at 14:42:59
In reply to re-babble thots, posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 14:18:33
I think that's a helpful and thoughtful post.
Thanks
Squiggles
Posted by ClearSkies on November 21, 2007, at 15:32:13
In reply to re-babble thots, posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 14:18:33
My T has been very supportive of my involvement in babble. I don't speak often of it, and usually in terms of communication styles, or when I've been able to meet up with other babblers IRL. In this way, babble has become an invaluable resource to me, as since I stopped working a few years ago my social circle became smaller and smaller. Yet I'll think nothing of being on an opposite coast - or another country - and meeting up with a friend that I've met here. It's like babble can "get around" the social anxiety issues that I have by letting me get to know people here first before making our acquaintance face to face.
CS
Posted by Squiggles on November 21, 2007, at 15:51:58
In reply to Re: re-babble thots, posted by ClearSkies on November 21, 2007, at 15:32:13
> My T has been very supportive of my involvement in babble. I don't speak often of it, and usually in terms of communication styles, or when I've been able to meet up with other babblers IRL. In this way, babble has become an invaluable resource to me, as since I stopped working a few years ago my social circle became smaller and smaller. Yet I'll think nothing of being on an opposite coast - or another country - and meeting up with a friend that I've met here. It's like babble can "get around" the social anxiety issues that I have by letting me get to know people here first before making our acquaintance face to face.
>
> CSI would never do that. I think it's dangerous--
you don't who you are meeting or being set up with. I would not advise it, especially with youngsters.It's also very irresponsible, to leave your family so you can get together with strangers from the net. Better to go your local community support centre - we have lots here and i am sure every city does.
Squiggles
Posted by cactus on November 21, 2007, at 16:47:47
In reply to re-babble thots, posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 14:18:33
muffled it was nice of you to take the time out to write that. C
Posted by ClearSkies on November 21, 2007, at 20:29:52
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » ClearSkies, posted by Squiggles on November 21, 2007, at 15:51:58
> > My T has been very supportive of my involvement in babble. I don't speak often of it, and usually in terms of communication styles, or when I've been able to meet up with other babblers IRL. In this way, babble has become an invaluable resource to me, as since I stopped working a few years ago my social circle became smaller and smaller. Yet I'll think nothing of being on an opposite coast - or another country - and meeting up with a friend that I've met here. It's like babble can "get around" the social anxiety issues that I have by letting me get to know people here first before making our acquaintance face to face.
> >
> > CS
>
> I would never do that. I think it's dangerous--
> you don't who you are meeting or being set up with. I would not advise it, especially with youngsters.
>
> It's also very irresponsible, to leave your family so you can get together with strangers from the net. Better to go your local community support centre - we have lots here and i am sure every city does.
>
> Squiggles
>
>Well, I've met around 20 babblers so far, including Dr Bob, and haven't felt at any time that I was endangering myself.
I'm just speaking from my own personal experience here.CS
Posted by Squiggles on November 21, 2007, at 20:32:16
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » Squiggles, posted by ClearSkies on November 21, 2007, at 20:29:52
> Well, I've met around 20 babblers so far, including Dr Bob, and haven't felt at any time that I was endangering myself.
> I'm just speaking from my own personal experience here.
>
> CS
>
>You met Dr. Bob and you think you did not
endanger yourself? Wow, he really is a
psychiatrist.:-) Just kidding.Squiggles
Posted by TherapyGirl on November 21, 2007, at 20:35:12
In reply to re-babble thots, posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 14:18:33
You're right about the good, the bad, the ugly, Muffled. Babbleworld is a lot like real life, only usually more supportive.
I'm glad you've found a home here. You are one of the people who makes me feel most at home here and I feel lucky to have you in my life.
I know I've said it before, but you are a treasure, Muffly.
((((((Muffled))))))
Posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 21:34:03
In reply to Re: re-babble thots, posted by ClearSkies on November 21, 2007, at 15:32:13
Posted by Deputy Dinah on November 21, 2007, at 21:42:03
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » ClearSkies, posted by Squiggles on November 21, 2007, at 15:51:58
> It's also very irresponsible, to leave your family so you can get together with strangers from the net. Better to go your local community support centre - we have lots here and i am sure every city does.
Please don't post anything that could lead others to feel accused or put down. You've recently been blocked for one week, so I'm going to block you for two weeks.
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Posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 21:47:53
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » ClearSkies, posted by Squiggles on November 21, 2007, at 15:51:58
> I would never do that. I think it's dangerous--
> you don't who you are meeting or being set up with. I would not advise it, especially with youngsters.**It is always best to trust your instincts IMHO. But many on babble have built up a rapport with each other over time. Sometimes you just have to take a chance. At least there is some prior *public*(on the boards) interaction. As far as meeting strangers elsewhere, wherever(even locally), well....there are no guarantees...many of us have been hurt...and not by strangers...
I agree bout the kids. I would not involve my kids.
>
> It's also very irresponsible, to leave your family so you can get together with strangers from the net. Better to go your local community support centre - we have lots here and i am sure every city does.**Again, we are all entitled to our feelings bout the things of life. But interaction with real people is mostly a good thing, especially in the form of supportive friendships.
**In fact that is one of the things that fascinates me bout babblers meeting, alot of us are a very cautious lot, and yet, they meet. I think it is SO amazing, wonderful, and COOL!
IMHO people will have conflicts IRL, or on babble, ANYways. Seems to be the way us imperfect humans are. So why not meet in a safe fashion?
Bob himself apperntly does in fact exist and is known to in fact be who he says he is, so I expect he is safe enuf.
So of course it is up to individual babblers as to whether , or if, they ever want to meet.
Again, I think this is such a cool thing.
This is how I feel bout this stuff anyways.
Nice to see ya Squiggles :-)
M
Posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 21:49:31
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » Squiggles, posted by ClearSkies on November 21, 2007, at 20:29:52
> Well, I've met around 20 babblers so far, including Dr Bob, and haven't felt at any time that I was endangering myself.
**:-) Wow CS, now that is SO cool :-)
Thanks
M
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 21, 2007, at 23:41:04
In reply to Blocked for two weeks » Squiggles, posted by Deputy Dinah on November 21, 2007, at 21:42:03
> Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions.
I get 3 weeks:
duration of previous block: 1 week
period of time since previous block: 3 weeks
severity: 2 (default) + 1 (uncivil toward particular individual) = 3
block length = 2.83 rounded = 3 weeksBob
Posted by Sigismund on November 22, 2007, at 13:30:21
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » ClearSkies, posted by Squiggles on November 21, 2007, at 15:51:58
We can learn heaps about someone from their style here.
That's what our minds are good at.
Sometimes we make mistakes, of course.
The 2 babblers I have met have not been a great surprise to me, although it was different too, seeing their faces and expressions.
Posted by Deputy Dinah on November 22, 2007, at 17:40:55
In reply to Blocked for two weeks » Squiggles, posted by Deputy Dinah on November 21, 2007, at 21:42:03
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20071106/msgs/796603.html
Here is a link.
Posted by Dinah on November 23, 2007, at 11:24:57
In reply to re-babble thots, posted by Muffled on November 21, 2007, at 14:18:33
I'd say it has been very useful in therapy. Therapy was upsetting to me at the beginning. It felt like there were rules and expectations, yet they weren't adequately conveyed. I felt all these strong emotions, and had no idea if they were ok to have, or what to do with them.
Through Babble I learned that the best thing to do is to talk to your therapist. Even if it's to say that I'm confused because I feel like there are expectations that I don't understand, or that there are feelings I couldn't figure out how to handle. I learned that it wasn't so weird to feel so strongly about therapy.
My therapist thought Babble is great because I hadn't had much experience with human interaction for many years before Babble. I found, and find, it confusing at times. But I guess now less than before.
I can't deny that I hurt sometimes. And I've certainly given up any notions I may have had about having tons of power in relationships. I used to have this fantasy that if I just tried hard enough, or explained well enough, that things would turn out ok. I think I've learned better to let go of *should* and accept (if not embrace) *is*.
Posted by Dinah on November 23, 2007, at 12:02:03
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » Muffled, posted by Dinah on November 23, 2007, at 11:24:57
from my perspective, I should clarify. :)
Posted by oldschool305 on November 24, 2007, at 0:12:38
In reply to Re: re-babble thots » Muffled, posted by TherapyGirl on November 21, 2007, at 20:35:12
I would totally meet babblers offline. It is nice to talk to people who are experiencing some of the same issues that we deal with and who understand. Anyone live in Miami, Florida? hehe.
Posted by rskontos on November 24, 2007, at 14:30:01
In reply to Re: re-babble thots, posted by oldschool305 on November 24, 2007, at 0:12:38
I must admit some of this upset me at first and I would not post but I have thought about and now I have decided that for me and where my head is now to have the courage and trust to meet my babble friends would be a very good thing for me. I dont make friends easily and I don't reveal much about myself. I have always been accused of this so to meet in person well I think it would be great at this point and great for me. That is now what I think. Muffled, I thank you for being the one to bring up this thread as it has helped me take a thought that at first was a little threatening an dnot from the way you responsed at all just the thought itself and made it something good to work through to come to a good conclusion. Now this what Babble does for me and I have my therapists' blessing. I don't ask her for permission because I would be upset for her to rain on my parade. I just tell her how I work through things and she is happy I am able to do that. Again, this is why I need Babble and I appreciated everything's reponses to this as it helped me see things in a different light that brought me clarity. thanks guys. Babble rocks. rk
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