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Posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 17:39:03
i am having a better day, save for some here and there crap. i am getting my paper done and i had dinner with friends. That was real nice. Turkey dinner, wine, pumpkin pie.. i haven't been eating so well so it was really good. Took time to meditate.
this week is going to be hard to get through. i'm calmer but the issues that started the crisis are still there.. and T is still away. i don't see him until next Tuesday. 8 days.
i appreciate all the care and help... don't let go ok?
Posted by TherapyGirl on October 8, 2007, at 19:14:04
In reply to having a better day, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 17:39:03
I'm impressed with how you seem to be taking care of yourself, Dory. This is one of the things that I think is most challenging for a lot of us here in Babbleland.
So kudos to you. I hope the 8 days passes very, very quickly.
Posted by Deneb on October 8, 2007, at 21:18:34
In reply to having a better day, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 17:39:03
I'm glad you're doing better Dory and good job on the paper!
Deneb*
Posted by muffled on October 8, 2007, at 21:28:35
In reply to having a better day, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 17:39:03
Hey I see my T , mebbe, next Tues.
Glad you wre able to get out and have some moments of peace for a bit. Thats good taking care.
Damn, hope the other stuff can be not excessively stressful.
Keep reaching out.
You a good egg.
M
Posted by happyflower on October 8, 2007, at 21:30:32
In reply to Re: having a better day » Dory, posted by Deneb on October 8, 2007, at 21:18:34
Yeah! I am glad you are doing okay, just take one day at a time and you will be fine.
I am glad somebody got their paper done, I am still struggling with it. auugghh!
Take care!
Posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 21:46:27
In reply to Re: having a better day, posted by happyflower on October 8, 2007, at 21:30:32
hey.. i said "getting it done!" i'm not done yet toots. oh yes, big forrest, no trees.
SOCIOLOGY SUCKS DONKEY BUTT
:o)
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2007, at 22:00:53
In reply to Re: having a better day, posted by happyflower on October 8, 2007, at 21:30:32
Happyflower still on fairytails or is now changed. Oh I didn't get to the library today. Keep writing. Phillipa ps younster!!!!
Posted by Phillipa on October 8, 2007, at 22:04:52
In reply to Re: having a better day » happyflower, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 21:46:27
Dory I loved sociology we got to experiments like look for reactions from people. I drank from a baby bottle at the beach for a reaction can you believe none? And then my sister grown I wheeled in a grocery store and no one even cared so what does that say about society. That people don't care or don't look or are preoccupied with their own chores? Phillipa
Posted by RealMe on October 8, 2007, at 22:12:34
In reply to having a better day, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 17:39:03
Dory;
glad you are doing some better. Countdown; tomorrow when you wake up it will be only one week (seven days). Then, after tomorrow it will be less than a week.
RealMe
Posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 22:13:38
In reply to Re: having a better day, posted by muffled on October 8, 2007, at 21:28:35
reaching out is hard when you are just hanging on by your fingernails.. but i *am* hanging on right?
Posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 22:14:39
In reply to Re: having a better day » Dory, posted by Deneb on October 8, 2007, at 21:18:34
thank you deneb :o) i'm still working at it... now you remember, be a better student than the example i set!
Posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 22:20:42
In reply to Re: having a better day » Dory, posted by TherapyGirl on October 8, 2007, at 19:14:04
it is a struggle. does it get easier at some point? My T seems to think so.. but he's got a lotof those "positive thinking" ideas. It's hard to believe in when life has been sh*tty. No experience with the application.
i miss him. We've gotten closer lately, more than i had realised. (makes me nervous) And today i was remembering funny little things we have said and different things he has done which lifted my spirits. i still have my old voicemails from him.
since things kind of imploded on friday night i really do wish i could just talk to him for a few minutes... ask a couple of questions.. regain a little bit of direction.
7 1/2 days... almost 7
Posted by rskontos on October 8, 2007, at 22:32:42
In reply to Re: having a better day » TherapyGirl, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 22:20:42
Dory, you will get there. And you will be a little stronger in fact. It is hard I know. At least I am trying to know b/c I am not that bonded with mine yet but I know how much I need therapy so I am projecting. I understand through your postings how much you have come to depend on your T. I must admit and I hope this isn't a trigger for anyone, that I am a little reluctant to get to close with everyone having trouble with their T's going on vacation or being out of pocket. I will just ignore it and support you guys and hope for the best since I know I must travel with you guys on this journey into therapyland. It is hard because I keep wanting to retreat and leave my people where they are, leave the meds as they make me feel weird, but this isn 't my thread this is Dory's and I am suppose to be making her feel better and I think I stepped in it now.
So Dory, sorry for my rambling. I am generally a caring person who tries to step out of herself so forgive the above boatload and laugh at that crap ok. I am thrilled to hear you have taken good care of yourself. It is a struggle, one baby step at a time, right. I hope it gets easier. So heres to getting easier, raise our glasses to it, water in my case, this new med makes me thirsty. Tomorrow is only 7 more left....heyhey!! rk
Posted by Dory on October 9, 2007, at 0:02:55
In reply to Re: having a better day, posted by rskontos on October 8, 2007, at 22:32:42
i have to ask, because you have used this expression a dozen or so times.. what the hell does "out of pocket" mean? :o) In this part of the world "out of pocket" means you are paying for something yourself as opposed to, say, having an insurance company pay... so i pay my T out of pocket. But this is obviously not how you are using it. i've been trying to figure it out... maybe you mean away or out of touch? i love interesting, quirky expressions.
are you not wanting to get close to the people who T's away, or not wanting to get close to people in general, or not wanting to get close to your T b/c they will occasionally go away? Not clear on that. Either way though, that's all process. Don't try to picture the hotel you're going to stay in at the end of your trip, try looking out the car window and seeing where you are now. Sorry, bad methaphor. But the idea is to not worry about how someone else's situation is impacting them, not as a predictor of how you will do. Some things are pretty standard... to have therapy work well you need a good T-client bond.. when a T goes away you will feel some tension, more or less depending on a lot of factors. That kind of thing.
as far as babblers... just give and do what you can and no more, no less. It's ok to hold back when you can't be there for someone. There's no quota.
you didn't step in it doll... it's ok. No worries. The only thing i cannot take is agressiveness, no matter how it's sugar-coated. If you ever did upset me a little... i'd flit away and then come back when i got over it. You gotta do what you gotta do. If you need to step back from certain people for your own reasons at times, that's ok. i find it's a nice thing to do to just tell them you want to be supportive but can't right now... let's them know you're not avoiding them.
a really nice thing happened tonight too... i re-discovered my Lung ta (Tibetan prayer flags). Was fiddling around with the cover on my futon and discovered them under the mattress... i had put them there b/c they came rolled up and i wanted to flatten them... but forgot. So tomorrow i will hang those along my little balcony. They are so cheery.
thanks for taking the time Rk... i know you have a lot to deal with
Posted by Wittgenstein on October 9, 2007, at 4:17:34
In reply to having a better day, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 17:39:03
I'm so proud of you Dory. I was worried for you - going to the dinner - how you would find it with all that's going on in your mind. What a relief that it was a good experience - sounds like delicious food! Please try to take care of yourself - treat yourself to some nice things especially the next days as you really deserve it.
I'm glad I had a chance to chat to you in the weekend and I will send you a mail about that chat today. It's been on my mind to do it but I'm sinking again grrr - this depression is relentless. Walking on quicksand or ice-skating on paper-thin ice (I like analogies :-) ).
My T is away now for some days and like you I don't see him again until Tuesday :( - so perhaps we can count-down the days together.
You'll get through this - you're a fighter.
((((Dory))))
Witti
Posted by TherapyGirl on October 9, 2007, at 6:05:16
In reply to Re: having a better day » TherapyGirl, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 22:20:42
It does get easier at times, Dory, but it is also not a linear progression. Sometimes I have a very hard time when T is away and sometimes it's fine. It has a lot to do with what else is going on in my life at the moment and how strong (or not) the connection between us is.
You're doing fine, though. 7 days and counting...
Posted by Dory on October 9, 2007, at 8:35:31
In reply to Re: having a better day » Dory, posted by TherapyGirl on October 9, 2007, at 6:05:16
now that is true.. maybe it is easier than it could have been because we ended off with such a positive connection. The connection is stronger than it had been, maybe strong enough to see me through? Things around me are bad... and i am doing things which are bound to make them worse overall.. trying to ease the pain by delaying it and worsening it. i don't know how else to cope. But it's the best i can do without some very strong and almost constant support from T right now. i don't usually need much between sessions but this is one of those near everyday things. He knows that, and he has said in the past that when this finally happened he would be there. He knew that the timing couldn't be worse and had hoped i could avoid the bear-trap i have stepped in.
Posted by Dory on October 9, 2007, at 8:43:40
In reply to Re: having a better day » Dory, posted by Wittgenstein on October 9, 2007, at 4:17:34
thank you, for your care and concern. i'll make it through even if i am beaten and bloody at the other end. i worry more about long term set backs.. then again.. the accute panic attacks are really bad.
i've had to focus on this paper and exclude everything else pretty much. It has helped - for now. That is all i ask.. till T comes back.
Posted by happyflower on October 10, 2007, at 16:30:10
In reply to Re: having a better day » happyflower, posted by Dory on October 8, 2007, at 21:46:27
> SOCIOLOGY SUCKS DONKEY BUTT
>
> :o)YOu know I laugh out loud when I read this! ;-) I don't know what you have against donkey butts, but you sure are cute!
Posted by rskontos on October 10, 2007, at 17:39:26
In reply to Re: having a better day » Dory, posted by TherapyGirl on October 9, 2007, at 6:05:16
Dory, when I re-read my post I have to apologize. That was not really me that posted that. I must have switched. So sorry. I read it thinking who the hell wrote this. Must have been me as it is my signature and my computer but it was not the real me. I am really really sorry. I think out of pocket mean gone. This person doesn't want to go to T and has made me cancell a time or two. Again, I am only just beginning to understand all this but with therapy my T said it will make them come more apparently. Like talking about them is giving them permission. I honestly don't say out of pocket. I am sorry that post sound so weird.
I am glad you had a better day. I was not having one, someone else was up to no good. again sorry.....I am feeling like a weirdo and after my T session last night. Anyway, sorrryyyyyyyyyyrk
Posted by Phillipa on October 10, 2007, at 20:00:02
In reply to Re: having a better day » rskontos, posted by Dory on October 9, 2007, at 0:02:55
Dory that is what it means to me also paying the fee myself no insurance to pay it. What is the other meaning? Phillipa
Posted by RealMe on October 10, 2007, at 23:23:30
In reply to Re: having a better day, posted by rskontos on October 10, 2007, at 17:39:26
Well actually it did not sound all that bad!!!
RealMe
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