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Posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:43:49
This is sort of a take off on I think it was honores thread bout knowing who others are, but my question is, do people know THEMSELVES, who themselves is?
Do lotsa people know who they are?
I dunno who I am.
:-(
M
Posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:44:51
In reply to does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:43:49
Posted by raisinb on August 21, 2007, at 17:22:23
In reply to does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:43:49
But I think it's a feeling, not something you can articulate in words, because as soon as you say, "I am THIS," then you realize you're cutting off parts of yourself that aren't THAT. Don't know if that makes sense.
Posted by Happyflower 1 :-) on August 21, 2007, at 17:27:30
In reply to does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:43:49
I don't know. I sort of know who I am , who I want to be, and who I will probably be, all are me I guess. I think I mostly know how I am .
I think you know who you are, maybe not everything is known, because our lives are ever changing.
Posted by Dinah on August 21, 2007, at 17:30:03
In reply to does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:43:49
Usually. Although I don't feel like the same me from day to day at all. But I've grown used to most of the daily me's.
It used to be that I never could understand why I did the things I did. If there's one thing therapy has helped me with it's learning to figure out why I did something, and better yet, to understand my likely impulses in situations so I can try to compensate.
Posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 19:15:33
In reply to sorta--some of the time, posted by raisinb on August 21, 2007, at 17:22:23
> But I think it's a feeling, not something you can articulate in words, because as soon as you say, "I am THIS," then you realize you're cutting off parts of yourself that aren't THAT. Don't know if that makes sense.
**Hmmm interesting.
And I totally agree w/not cutting off parts, all the body should be included.
It makes sense to me.
Thx.
M
Posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 19:19:56
In reply to Re: does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by Happyflower 1 :-) on August 21, 2007, at 17:27:30
> I don't know. I sort of know who I am , who I want to be, and who I will probably be, all are me I guess. I think I mostly know how I am .
>
> I think you know who you are, maybe not everything is known, because our lives are ever changing.**Thats got to be nice HF, and I SO happy for you. Mebbe thats how come you are so strong bout some stuff.
I not so sure who I am, cuz it changes.
And I am getting better at recognizing it, and if its not appropriate, stopping it, but not always. And I have a way of being that I REALLY like, but it never lasts, I change and it goes away.
I wish I could be just 'me'.
No noise in my head, no fighting and discord and crazy thots.
I wish more than anything I could be more conssitant :-(
Anyways, sorry for the whinefest.
Thx for reply HF.
M
Posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 19:21:50
In reply to Re: does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by Dinah on August 21, 2007, at 17:30:03
> Usually. Although I don't feel like the same me from day to day at all. But I've grown used to most of the daily me's.
**well I reckon thats SOMEthing anyhow...
> It used to be that I never could understand why I did the things I did. If there's one thing therapy has helped me with it's learning to figure out why I did something, and better yet, to understand my likely impulses in situations so I can try to compensate.**:-) See T is good. I still dunno SO much :-(
Oh well.
Mebbe I know enuf to get by.
Thanks for reply dinah
M
Posted by B2chica on August 22, 2007, at 8:58:04
In reply to does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:43:49
LOL it depends which part of me you ask...
each one thinks differently about 'me' as a whole.i know theoretically 'who' i am, but it doesn't fit with an earthly description. and the typical 'who are you' questions are answered by individual parts of me. the little girl thinks one (and i'm beginning to think there are two little girls), the teen another and the old lady another.
so i like to think that it's not that i don't know who i am, but that i have alternate answers :)
Muffled...sometimes i think to that asking such a question locks us into a role and doesn't allow us to grow, change and explore like we are supposed to. so if you say you don't know who you are...what's wrong with that?
it's ok by me, cuz you muffled, you special and i know you are genuine. that's all that matters to me.(((hugs)))
b2c.
Posted by RealMe on August 22, 2007, at 23:34:09
In reply to Re: does anybody ever really know who they are???? » muffled, posted by B2chica on August 22, 2007, at 8:58:04
Posted by RealMe on August 22, 2007, at 23:38:14
In reply to Re: does anybody ever really know who they are???? » muffled, posted by B2chica on August 22, 2007, at 8:58:04
Darn it; I did it again; what is wrong with me; I keep hitting the wrong button. I am tired with only three hours sleep last night, but...
Anyway, yep you are right about depending upon who you ask. The different parts of me didn't used to even know about the other way back when I was in the hospital in the 80;s. Now, they do, and I like to think they all maked me a more rounded person. HUm; did I say that. Well yours are all you, and mine are all me. Have you ever answered that question from each part's point of view and then looked at the response of each as they all have a good answer.
RealMe(Oz)
Posted by B2chica on August 23, 2007, at 7:34:38
In reply to Re: does anybody ever really know who they are???? » B2chica, posted by RealMe on August 22, 2007, at 23:38:14
>>...Have you ever answered that question from each part's point of view and then looked at the response of each as they all have a good answer.
ya, i have. and it's interesting because they are SO different and unique...yet they all seem to apply. as for my 'part's', they know of each other but i don't think they've ever.."talked" to each other. the little one is afraid of teen. heck, even i'm afraid of her sometimes. she's SO intense.
Posted by RealMe on August 23, 2007, at 19:58:35
In reply to Re: does anybody ever really know who they are???? » RealMe, posted by B2chica on August 23, 2007, at 7:34:38
>> they know of each other but i don't think they've ever.."talked" to each other.
>You know what; I don't think mine have talked to each other either. I think this is why I was so alarmed to get into the emotional me at age 8 and then to have the picture to also show me who I was then. I had the sense that she had been back there so many years and has been waiting for me to come and get her.
The mind is a strange thing!
RealMe
(Oz)
Posted by Deus_Abscondis on September 1, 2007, at 9:19:05
In reply to does anybody ever really know who they are????, posted by muffled on August 21, 2007, at 14:43:49
Good one.
There's past experiences, memories and these change over time and are subject to new interpretation. Then there are traits of character one can try and see if they've changed.
Asking others how they perceive you is interesting.Myself, I've become more interested in the ongoing 'possibilities of becoming'. It's always happening.
I know one thing of who I am and that is I am a good person!
Cheers
D
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