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Posted by Scentedgarden on January 7, 2007, at 18:58:21
Just a thought i had as i was reading through some of the posts...it seems to me that some of the therapist possible have some psychological matters/issues going on for themselves, and could just as easily be sitting in the other chair...
In the states therapy is an every day run of the mill accepted thing...
BJUt in the U.K. i feel it's still not as hugely accepted by Joe public...so I guess to those in America reading this will perhaps maybe think....'sure therapist go to therapy'
but in the U.k from my British perspective I was wondering if anyone out there thinks we are all in need of some good therapy at times....Dr's incLUDED...!
any thoughts? anyone..? nothing heavy just a light hearted topic is what i had in mind...
Posted by Karolina on January 7, 2007, at 22:35:54
In reply to anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues?, posted by Scentedgarden on January 7, 2007, at 18:58:21
I definitely believe that many Ts have issues of their own to deal with because they are just as human as us. But I don't think they should bring their own stuff into sessions.
I'm not saying I think it's wrong for them to disclose a few details, because that's what helps us realize they are normal people too, but I don't think it's good if they take up the entire time talking about their issues and chance letting it overwhelm clients.
Just my thoughts..-Karolina-
Posted by muffled on January 7, 2007, at 23:17:17
In reply to anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues?, posted by Scentedgarden on January 7, 2007, at 18:58:21
I think everybodys got issues!!!
I like if a T has issues cuz then mebbe they understand, but ya, definately they goto keep 'em outta therapy.
Muffled
Posted by madeline on January 8, 2007, at 6:09:52
In reply to anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues?, posted by Scentedgarden on January 7, 2007, at 18:58:21
Ideally, the therapist themselves undergo therapy as a part of their training, so that their issues do not dominate therapy.
However, I do not know how widespread that kind of therapy is now.
I had one therapist disclose WAY TOO MUCH about his abuse as a child. I know he was trying to show his solidarity with me, but man, it was my dime you know?
Posted by wishingstar on January 8, 2007, at 11:03:33
In reply to anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues?, posted by Scentedgarden on January 7, 2007, at 18:58:21
cough*Anne*cough. Oh no, I've never had a T with issues. :) Just kidding.
Well, we all have problems. There's no getting around that. But of course there are some Ts out there who have more significant problems because of bad childhoods, bad relationships, biological problems like depression.. who knows. Anything.
I think it's true to some degree that a lot of therapists get into therapy to solve their own problems. One of my past therapists even joked about that. The interest in helping and understanding others on a deep level often starts with feeling that way about themselves, I think.
I think the most important factor is how the therapist handles their issues. I know many are in therapy themselves and thats great I think. It's important that they leave their issues outside the room, not whether or not they have them, in my opinion. Laurie, my favorite T ever, has alluded several times to "knowing where I'm at" in a way that makes me know she has been there. But it's never been a problem in my therapy. If anything, it helps. I think it's also important that they recognize where their issues lie so that theyre not reacting out of them instead of to the actual clients.
Posted by peddidle on January 8, 2007, at 12:28:40
In reply to anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues?, posted by Scentedgarden on January 7, 2007, at 18:58:21
My T gave me some advice during one session when I was having an "I must be really 'crazy' if I have to be in therapy" moment. She said that she thinks EVERYONE should have a therapist. In reality, of course, that would never happen, but her feeling is that everyone is a prisoner of their own mind, and the only way to escape (or be happy) is to have somebody to talk to who isn't involved in your everyday life. Not to say that you shouldn't have strong social relationships, which of course you should, but you can't reconcile issues that you carry around with you every day with people that are directly involved in them.
Posted by Poet on January 8, 2007, at 14:09:45
In reply to anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues?, posted by Scentedgarden on January 7, 2007, at 18:58:21
Hi Scentedgarden,
I know my therapist has been in therapy, so she knows what it's like to sit in the other chair, but I don't know how long ago it was.
From what I've read from other posters and the behavior of their T's, I think some of them could benefit from therapy or at least a refresher class in how to separate personal issues from therapy sessions with patients.
Poet
Posted by Scentedgarden on January 10, 2007, at 5:34:03
In reply to Re: anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues? » Scentedgarden, posted by Poet on January 8, 2007, at 14:09:45
thanks to all who posted replies..i was kinda gob smacked anyone answered me but im just feeling down with it all right now.
i will maybe open a new thread to explain...but many thanks for your sharing and caring thoughts ....take care everyonescented garden
Posted by finelinebob on January 11, 2007, at 0:08:10
In reply to Re: anyone here think some T's are the ONEs wi issues?, posted by Scentedgarden on January 10, 2007, at 5:34:03
Well, expanding on what one person mentioned, it's particularly true in classical, Freudian psychodynamic approaches to be going through analysis yourself.
I dated one of them once. Biggest mistake of my life, but I was manic when we met and for a few months after that so I thought it was all good. And I was just starting on meds and going through 2.5 years of hell looking for the right cocktail (HEY PDOCS! NOT EVERYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THEIR SEROTONIN LEVELS!!). After all of that, it was too late. Living together in NYC, we had become economically co-dependent. Even though I was paying 75% of the rent (at the start, I was employed full time and she was starting her PhD ... and I was manic ;^), that extra 25% she could kick in made a world of difference in the sort of apartment we could share. I can't believe real estate is worth 6 years of THAT sort of abuse....
She certainly had her issues. In my 44 years on this planet at this time, she is by far the most vindictive, nasty person I have ever known. The sicker I got, the more interested she became in our relationship ... well, that is until I started to clearly make some progress based on the work I did with my T -- with whom she was at ideological odds. Then the real her, something I had seen directed at others including her "friends", started getting directed at me.
You know how those in the medical profession are pretty much bound, ethically, to jump in and help in the face of a crisis? Well, here's an image for you: it took me about 10 hours to mostly walk the length of Manhattan starting from Broadway and Fulton at a little after 9am on 9/11/01 with all that was going on throughout the City. I make it home, she's at her computer, working on her dissertation. I ask if she was aware of what was happening, and she replies in a rather everyday sort of "oh yeah" and continued typing. Mind you, she'd been working as a "resident" in a very well-known psychoanalytic clinic in Manhattan for several years at this time. After a few more questions that just increased my sense of disbelief, I finally came out and asked her plainly: "Don't you think you have some responsibility as a mental health practitioner to see how you can volunteer, to help out?" Her response? "I have enough patients of my own already."
And she kept on typing out her dissertation all the time.
Analyst: analyze thyself!
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