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Posted by Toph on August 1, 2006, at 10:26:18
The unconscious mind is decidedly simple, unaffected, straight-forward and
honest. It hasn't got all of this facade, this veneer of what we call adult
culture. It's rather simple, rather childish. It is direct and free.
-Milton H. Erikson, psychiatrist (1901-1980)I guess that explains why a lot of the time I don't want to go to work, make the bed, do the dishes, take my medicine, talk with other grown-ups. Maybe I'm depressed or just maybe my unconscious child is winning.
Posted by llrrrpp on August 1, 2006, at 17:02:44
In reply to Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by Toph on August 1, 2006, at 10:26:18
well, the unconscious child has some happier moments too, right?
I hope it's just summer-time laziness and not depression, but keep an eye on this.
thanks for the quote :)
-ll
Posted by Toph on August 1, 2006, at 22:11:08
In reply to Re: Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by llrrrpp on August 1, 2006, at 17:02:44
Thanks for the kind optimism ll. I think the unconscious, at least mine anyway, is more complicated than this fellow's description. I fight with myself all the time, as if my unconscious has varied interests and needs. But maybe its just this oppressive heat. No, I'm kinda depressed most of the time sadly. I get by alright though, most of the time, anyway.
Posted by zenhussy on August 2, 2006, at 11:53:18
In reply to Re: Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by Toph on August 1, 2006, at 22:11:08
>>> But maybe its just this oppressive heat. No, I'm kinda depressed most of the time sadly. I get by alright though, most of the time, anyway.
...or maybe you're just human Toph. Kindness your way. Sending you cool breezes and peaceful thoughts.
Posted by Toph on August 2, 2006, at 12:26:03
In reply to Re: Sometimes I can be such a big baby » Toph, posted by zenhussy on August 2, 2006, at 11:53:18
Hey _z, nice to hear from you again. Life keeps moving forward ever so relentlesly. I hate parts of it, but who wants to hear about that? The wife, kids and dogs have not forsaken me, yet, so all's not that bad. I've read elsewhere about some of your challenges. I trust you all are well.
Posted by susan47 on August 2, 2006, at 14:15:41
In reply to Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by Toph on August 1, 2006, at 10:26:18
> The unconscious mind is decidedly simple, unaffected, straight-forward and
> honest. It hasn't got all of this facade, this veneer of what we call adult
> culture. It's rather simple, rather childish. It is direct and free.
> -Milton H. Erikson, psychiatrist (1901-1980)
>
> I guess that explains why a lot of the time I don't want to go to work, make the bed, do the dishes, take my medicine, talk with other grown-ups. Maybe I'm depressed or just maybe my unconscious child is winning.Your unconscious child would want to play and be happy. Do you want to play and be happy? Do you? I myself, I say I do and yet I find it almost impossible to set foot outside my apartment. It takes a lot for me to do that, these days. I don't know why. I need my children. I really need them, and I don't know how to stop needing them and get on with my life.
(((Toph)))
You have your children, your wife ... you have your wife, if nothing else ... you have Someone. You are very blessed. I wish you weren't depress-ed. Ew. Bad one. Bless-ed, depress-ed. Baaaad.
Posted by canadagirl on August 3, 2006, at 16:33:02
In reply to Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by Toph on August 1, 2006, at 10:26:18
>>guess that explains why a lot of the time I don't want to go to work, make the bed, do the dishes.....talk with other grown-ups. Maybe I'm depressed or just maybe my unconscious child is winning. <<<
That's pretty much my life too, we have to kinda force ourselves sometimes don't we, to do "normal" things like making the bed and doing dishes.
Posted by Estella on August 4, 2006, at 19:29:32
In reply to Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by Toph on August 1, 2006, at 10:26:18
hey. me too. i feel like i'm 7 mostly :-)
but i don't like this body :-(
big and ugly :-(
overgrown :-(
Posted by susan47 on August 5, 2006, at 21:09:17
In reply to Re: Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by Estella on August 4, 2006, at 19:29:32
> hey. me too. i feel like i'm 7 mostly :-)
> but i don't like this body :-(
> big and ugly :-(
> overgrown :-(
>
>No. First of all, ugly is totally unreliable and should describe behaviours not looks. So ugly, being a word used on me until I was well into my thirties, hurts like hell. And you know it hurts you too. You can't use that word on your body. That is YOUR body, that is YOUR mind, that is your ONLY reality and you owe it to yourself to go over it inch by inch (there's a song coming into my head right now, inch by inch, (something) by (something) .. what is it, what is it, it's a child's song done on a TV show for little children ... my little guys were so beautiful, such incredibly, physically beautiful babies and children, now they're growing into really definable adult-type of looks and that is SO scary ... I'm rambling I'm sorry)
Look at yourself in the mirror, naked, for half an hour every day and tell yourself, or tell the mirror, I love my body. I love my body.... over and over and think about how it feels to inhabit that body, how it feels to be inside of it, how it works for you every millisecond of every moment of your life, how it has worked for you, served you and keeps on loving you so much that it is still serving you, to this moment .. your body is beautiful. Beautiful, Estella. It's a miracle of creation, a miracle that belongs to You.
If it feels overgrown, it's because your mind is realizing there's room for expanding into your physical self, more, there's room in that there body that you haven't yet made use of.
Posted by susan47 on August 5, 2006, at 21:16:23
In reply to Re: Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by Estella on August 4, 2006, at 19:29:32
Estella, sweetie, I wish we could sit naked in front of a mirror together, chanting away ...
Estella, I am stoned. I am Way Way having a day, finally, that felt like I might actually not be hated by the world for being ... me, you know? I want to be loved, Estella. As much as you do. Yup. It sucks to hurt. I'm sorry I swore so much over on writing, it wasn't at you though, it's the way I am. Those are the words I use, Estella, and if anybody takes offence, that's their chosen interpretation. Anybody's level of understanding is their own responsibility.
Estella, I think you're lovely and I love you from afar, from over here, waaaaaay waaaay over here, one spirit talking to another.
Posted by 10derHeart on August 6, 2006, at 16:55:59
In reply to Re: Sometimes I can be such a big baby, posted by susan47 on August 5, 2006, at 21:09:17
susan...thank you. That post, for me, was absolutely beautiful, spiritual, insightful, and inspiring. You have no idea how timely to my therapy right now, too.....
You made me stop and think - I mean really think about this in a better way...not just, "oh, yeah, well, sure, that would be nice, but *I* can't...." More than that, for once. wow.
((susan))
Posted by susan47 on August 6, 2006, at 18:36:37
In reply to Re: Sometimes I can be such a big baby » susan47, posted by 10derHeart on August 6, 2006, at 16:55:59
You're amazing. Thank you. Kind, AND amazing.
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