Psycho-Babble Psychology Thread 2354

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Long term depression cause brain damage?

Posted by fuzzymind on January 30, 2003, at 13:24:32

I vaguely recall that this was the case in rodents.....not sure of the news report some years ago.

 

Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?

Posted by indirect00 on January 30, 2003, at 14:29:18

In reply to Long term depression cause brain damage?, posted by fuzzymind on January 30, 2003, at 13:24:32

If that was true, the guidelines for treating depression might change. Sure you can live with depression (as miserable as it may be). But if it causes physiological damage, it should be treated with the same urgency as other disorders (that cause physical harm).

 

Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?

Posted by noa on January 30, 2003, at 18:41:34

In reply to Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?, posted by indirect00 on January 30, 2003, at 14:29:18

I'll need to find the references, but I have read about studies showing that there are physical changes in the brain from long term depression--especially in the hippocampus.

 

Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?

Posted by judy1 on January 31, 2003, at 10:05:08

In reply to Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?, posted by noa on January 30, 2003, at 18:41:34

There's a thread on PB on this topic- yes severe depression and anxiety does cause changes in the left hyppocampal volume, mine shows up on an MRI. take care, judy

 

Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?

Posted by fuzzymind on January 31, 2003, at 17:59:47

In reply to Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?, posted by judy1 on January 31, 2003, at 10:05:08

> There's a thread on PB on this topic- yes severe depression and anxiety does cause changes in the left hyppocampal volume, mine shows up on an MRI. take care, judy

Is it reversible? I also beleive I heard a news report that the once held belief that any brain damage is permanet was not true...that damaged brain cells could regenerate.

 

Brain regrowth?

Posted by OddipusRex on January 31, 2003, at 18:58:28

In reply to Re: Long term depression cause brain damage?, posted by fuzzymind on January 31, 2003, at 17:59:47

Here's a link to an interesting article about the brain renewing itself. It suggests that ADs can cause regrowth in the hippocampus. I think I have read claims that fish oil does the same thing but I don't have a reference for that.

http://www.mcmanweb.com/article-191.htm

> > There's a thread on PB on this topic- yes severe depression and anxiety does cause changes in the left hyppocampal volume, mine shows up on an MRI. take care, judy
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> Is it reversible? I also beleive I heard a news report that the once held belief that any brain damage is permanet was not true...that damaged brain cells could regenerate.

 

Re: Brain regrowth from exercise

Posted by OddipusRex on January 31, 2003, at 19:11:51

In reply to Brain regrowth?, posted by OddipusRex on January 31, 2003, at 18:58:28

http://www.psycheducation.org/mechanism/BDNF.htm

Here's another one. My Pdoc gave me an article on this some time back and it helps me get motivated to get up and move.

> Here's a link to an interesting article about the brain renewing itself. It suggests that ADs can cause regrowth in the hippocampus. I think I have read claims that fish oil does the same thing but I don't have a reference for that.
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> http://www.mcmanweb.com/article-191.htm
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> > > There's a thread on PB on this topic- yes severe depression and anxiety does cause changes in the left hyppocampal volume, mine shows up on an MRI. take care, judy
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> > Is it reversible? I also beleive I heard a news report that the once held belief that any brain damage is permanet was not true...that damaged brain cells could regenerate.
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Re: Brain regrowth?

Posted by noa on February 2, 2003, at 14:04:45

In reply to Brain regrowth?, posted by OddipusRex on January 31, 2003, at 18:58:28

Thanks for the link, Rex. I haven't read it yet, but will later today.

I have also heard that ADs as well as psychotherapy can cause measurable functional changes in the brain, including in the hippocampus, but I don't know if it corresponds to regrowth of the "hardware". That would be cool!

I am sure that there is more potential for regrowth the younger you are, esp. in infants and chidren. Apparently, brain development continues well into adolescents and early adulthood.

 

Re: Brain regrowth from exercise

Posted by noa on February 2, 2003, at 14:05:56

In reply to Re: Brain regrowth from exercise, posted by OddipusRex on January 31, 2003, at 19:11:51

I have also heard about how even in very old people, new neural pathways can be formed with both physical and cognitive exercises.


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