Psycho-Babble Politics Thread 1113099

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Posted by alexandra_k on December 25, 2020, at 19:17:45

so there's a Harvard Scholarship with a value on it. so a student from new zealand can go to Harvard and study social change or something like that, it was. it's a jacinda arden scholarship. a masters. in leadership or something.

so... i can just see what happens... student gets scholarship. goes to Harvard. writes a masters thesis. Harvard says 'oh nonononononono you are not done yet, you are not done yet, at all, you are required to re-enrol for another year and pay us another year's worth of fees or you won't get your Harvard Degree'.

that's what New Zealand would do -- right? That's what they did to me. It would only be fair if Harvard did that to a new ZEalander (maybe Jacinda's baby) down the track -- to remind New Zealand of what New Zealand allowed to happen to me at the University of Waikato.

Fairs fairs fairs fair doing business with New Zealand.

Or... There's a delightful kid who got all the opportunities at some public school in NZ who got Early Admission to Harvard without an offer of funding. so she's paying for a 4 year degree at Harvard.

And in 4 years time Harvard goes 'you thought you were done but you owe us another year of fees because we decided not to pass you and so you need to take some more courses and hand over more money or you never get your Harvard Degree'.

Fairs fairs fair fair when it comes to how to do business with New Zealand.

I mean... That's not any differnt from how we treat our international students. We even arrange for them to be raped and involuntarily detained in psych institutions under conditions of torture called 'crazy' and send home with no Degrees.

Why would we expect the international community to treat our own precious precious children of our elite official any less?

What do we f*ck*ng expect?

Please tell me, new zealand.

where's my f*ck*ng degree??

 

full fee paying international students

Posted by alexandra_k on December 25, 2020, at 20:42:34

In reply to idea, posted by alexandra_k on December 25, 2020, at 19:17:45

come be a full fee paying international student in new zealand!

a student (he was domestic but there were international students living alongside him, in his residential hall) died. 2 months later other students were complaining about the stench of rotting corpse. the university didn't even notice (or care) that he hadn't turned up to tutorials or classes. just so long as those dollar dollar bills kept being paid by automatic payments. come, study at the University of Canturbury, New Zealand!

come, study at the University of Auckland! where you can be raped and put away in a psychiatric institution if you get complain-y about others sense of entitlement to your body. then the university can cancel your visa and send you home with no degree (after you've paid for 4 years of a 5 year double degree) the money is taken, the student defiled, come be a full fee paying international student in new zealand!

come, study with one of our esteemed universities... they'll take several years to process your application. they'll give you ideas of projects that will make it through an ethics board here -- but likely not the ethics board of any other country. from grossly inappropriate animal models to dodgey statistics the kids really will do anything, anything, anything at all for a graduate research degree, theses days! sure they will, thats the only way they get to be signed off (after we forced them to labor more than 2x the standard time on the qualification).

come, be an international fee paying student in new zealand!

what does parliament do?
the executive?
the judiary?

what's that -- their babies want to come study for qualifications in the USA?
really?
they want to be full fee paying international students?
a sort of... quid pro quo student exchange?

yes. the international community has been totally singing our praises how we treat our international students.

it is entiely plausible (guffaw)

thats how we know its a failue of intelligence -- right?
because it just isn't half-way plausible, at all.

the white island tragedy...

the world got to see something of our hospital system.
people were distributed around.
we had to purchase a lot of skin for grafts because we cant do anything ouselves...
and now the USA will not sell us reagents.

justice nz?
where is it? where did it go??

 

Re: idea

Posted by alexandra_k on December 25, 2020, at 21:05:17

In reply to idea, posted by alexandra_k on December 25, 2020, at 19:17:45

because it is not about the money. it is not about the money at all.

there is no reason at all why every single student enrolled in a graduate research degree can't produce a thesis for the university.

there is no reason at all why the university can't or won't proudly display all the artices, all the books, all the theses, all the research outputs of the university to prospective students on display.

there is no reason at all why out of four masters scholarship applicants only one has their thesis acknowledged as accepted by the university (years late, but accepted by the university). two others have their enrolments 'held' indefinately and one was bullied into dropping out / walking away.

it doesnt make them a better university. it doesnt make them all 'exclusive' or 'desirable'.

theres no research outputs. nobody home. and it doesnt cost them any f*ck*ng money to hand over the qualification for the work that was done.

except for them thinking they are entitled to exit payments / bribes / facilitation payments / donations of extra time / entitled to keep slaves.

but sure, the one student who was given both the scholarship and the qualification... you know, after she or he slaves for 2 years on a 1 year degree or 3 years on a 2 year degree... that one student (who they think is stupid for slaving on that rather than slaving on a PhD)...

well... i'm not entirely convinced there is such a student. i think it infinitely more likely the district health board decided to spend the $5,000 student scholarship on something like a conference workshop for themselves.

the district health board still has not informed me of th recipient of that scholarship in 2018.

i suppose the only reason for their refusal is because even that student has become an unobtainable myth of a better life for students in new zealand.

international students. millions or billions to our economy, apparently. and we can't even respect them or process their work or process their qualifications...

come be a full fee paying international student in new zealand..and about those new zealand government scholarships for new zealanders to train overseas...

seeing which students the new zealand government endorsed and backed. seeing how their parents made their money working for the new zealand government...

tick tock..process the f*ck*ng applications.need a taser up your *rs*?
process the appications and no skin off your *rs* -- right?
it doesn't cost you f*ck*ng anything at all to hand over a f*ck*ng degree for work that has been done.

its psychological. you got that right.

i smell evil and i hear the screams of dementors. its the double-speak you get from talking to people employed by new zealand universities.

who cry 'you must be mentally ill' when they refuse to process your application and 'you are making us mentally ill' when you follow complaints resolution process written by the executive for the executive not to follow.

'they found a typo therefore no degree for you! didn't you know you were supposed to have the whole thing generated and signed off by the editors over at campus copy or wherever from $5,000 out of pocket for you' or whatever it was.

the problem with my med school application?

the med students have a 'start up company' scam where students pay them for 'tutoring'. they are actually paying for questions and / or answers to questions. magic words to be spoke in interview and spouted in exams...

why?

because we don't want international students.
we don't want tourists
we dont want hospitals
art
computers
payroll
stock echange
pretty pleasant neighbourhoods
we dont want anything at all

screaming of the dementors...


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