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Posted by algizsim on December 3, 2009, at 14:58:14
Ok i spent like 5 hrs googling..
All i want to know is if there is a nice healthy natural product (pref. just 1 ingredient, not 400 chinese ones) that i can take almost daily to help maintain my liver health on a regular basis without clearing out all my meds.
I am on Pristiq (desvenlafaxine), Valpro (sodium valproate) and Seroquel...
Now im unsure about milk thistles effects on my meds, i also looked into some L methionine, glutathione and NAC (n acetyl cysteine).
Join me in my quest for medication assisted feeling of general wellbeing and vitality!
Posted by nolvas on December 3, 2009, at 15:28:19
In reply to oVeR GooGLeD - Good liver sups?, posted by algizsim on December 3, 2009, at 14:58:14
I looked up the interactions betweeen your meds and milk thistle and non are indicated. I did this using the Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database. You need a subscription and I have access to one.
Selected for Interaction Check:
Pristiq (ingredients: Desvenlafaxine)
Valproate (ingredients: Valproic Acid)
MILK THISTLENatural Product/Drug Interaction Results:
No known interactions were found for the selected products.http://www.naturaldatabase.com
Posted by bleauberry on December 3, 2009, at 18:46:22
In reply to Re: oVeR GooGLeD - Good liver sups?, posted by nolvas on December 3, 2009, at 15:28:19
Milk Thistle is the household name for liver herbs, but is by no means the best or the only one. There are a handful of others that have significant contributions above and beyond what Milk Thistle has to offer.
Dr Zhang of New York is a specialist in combining Western and Eastern medicine in treating liver diseases and Lyme diseases. His book outlines the specific herbs. Some of them you have probably never heard of, and some of them would probably surprise you because we don't usually think of them as liver herbs.
Posted by algizsim on December 4, 2009, at 6:16:07
In reply to Re: oVeR GooGLeD - Good liver sups?, posted by nolvas on December 3, 2009, at 15:28:19
> I looked up the interactions betweeen your meds and milk thistle and non are indicated. I did this using the Natural Medicines Comprehensive Database. You need a subscription and I have access to one.
>
> Selected for Interaction Check:
>
> Pristiq (ingredients: Desvenlafaxine)
> Valproate (ingredients: Valproic Acid)
> MILK THISTLE
>
> Natural Product/Drug Interaction Results:
>
> No known interactions were found for the selected products.
>
> http://www.naturaldatabase.com
>
>
>Thank you so much for your help in this regard. I must have forgot to mention that i am on low dose Seroquel (slowly tapering up)...
Could you check that for interactions too?
thnx in advance!Do you use a liver herb yourself?
I just get so worried about putting this many man made substances inrto my blood for so long,No wonder im lethargic, no sex drive or feelings of wellbeing,
Posted by algizsim on December 4, 2009, at 6:32:58
In reply to Re: oVeR GooGLeD - Good liver sups?, posted by bleauberry on December 3, 2009, at 18:46:22
> Milk Thistle is the household name for liver herbs, but is by no means the best or the only one. There are a handful of others that have significant contributions above and beyond what Milk Thistle has to offer.
>
> Dr Zhang of New York is a specialist in combining Western and Eastern medicine in treating liver diseases and Lyme diseases. His book outlines the specific herbs. Some of them you have probably never heard of, and some of them would probably surprise you because we don't usually think of them as liver herbs.Are we talking things like dandelion etc, or more eastern remedies.
Ill see if i can google some of his treatments out of the web.
THANXMy pharmacist said there shouldnt be any woes with milk thistle anyway, med wise.
Posted by tea on January 31, 2010, at 11:15:30
In reply to oVeR GooGLeD - Good liver sups?, posted by algizsim on December 3, 2009, at 14:58:14
> Ok i spent like 5 hrs googling..
>
> All i want to know is if there is a nice healthy natural product (pref. just 1 ingredient, not 400 chinese ones) that i can take almost daily to help maintain my liver health on a regular basis without clearing out all my meds.
>
> I am on Pristiq (desvenlafaxine), Valpro (sodium valproate) and Seroquel...
>
> Now im unsure about milk thistles effects on my meds, i also looked into some L methionine, glutathione and NAC (n acetyl cysteine).
>
> Join me in my quest for medication assisted feeling of general wellbeing and vitality!rule of thumb, eat whetever needs helping
so eat liver? (problem is most are contaminated due to pesticides, herbicides, additives etc.. but if you can get some real organic grass eating animals, probably should help.
otherwise, only thing I found that helped myself was milk thistle (I hate taste of liver)
tea
Posted by tea on January 31, 2010, at 11:23:13
In reply to Re: oVeR GooGLeD - Good liver sups?, posted by tea on January 31, 2010, at 11:15:30
> rule of thumb, eat whetever needs helping
> so eat liver? (problem is most are contaminated due to pesticides, herbicides, additives etc.. but if you can get some real organic grass eating animals, probably should help.
> otherwise, only thing I found that helped myself was milk thistle (I hate taste of liver)
> tea
>
add: don't eat only liver or too much of liver that is too high in VitA (like polar bear or dog as those explorers did at the poles)
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