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Posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 13:48:58
Thanks to Bleauberry, I've been thinking about mercury and lead lately.
I read an article that strongly suggests the herb cilantro can detoxify metals from our system. Many of you already know this, but I wanted to mention that cilantro is a great-tasting herb; it's not too bitter like parsley. I found a grocery store that sells cilantro for $1.99 for a large bunch. Prior to that, I could only get one of those tiny plastic boxes of it for $3.99! I'm going to try to grow it in the summer.
To get cilantro in your diet: It is great on tacos-anything mexican-and in salads; an asian salad goes very will with cilantro. It is also good chopped and mixed with rice. The best way to get it into your diet-I recently discovered-is in smoothies.
Get frozen berries; Aldis has a very cheap frozen fruits-they have one mix that is pineapple, papaya, guava, and mango. I mix that frozen fruit with a very ripe banana to sweeten, some water to blend (can use yogurt or milk). Maybe a pear or apple or strawberries as well. Add a large handful or 2 of cilantro. The cilantro gives it kind of an orange taste to it - you won't know you are drinking a vegetable this way. I never measure or use a recipe - and the smoothies always come out really good. Having a good blender makes it much better. The one I have is ok; it's old but well made and powerful. I want to buy an even better one - the one that liquifies vegatables completely is $400. But the one I have doesn't liquify the cilantro, but the bits are very small and it doesn't bother me, although I can see how a good blender would work better.
So I've started eating cilantro several times a week, and wanted to share with you all about how to get more in your diet.
:)
Posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 14:15:37
In reply to Mercury and Lead, posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 13:48:58
I forgot I had this and haven't tried it yet... is a recipe for cilantro chelation pesto...sounds yummy:
http://www.rawfoodinfo.com/articles/art_cilantroremheavymetals.html
More cilantro recipes and information:
http://www.great-salsa.com/cilantro.html
Cilantro/corriander nutritional profile:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=70
Cilantro anti-bacterial effects, etc.:
http://www.healthsupply.ws/pectin-plus/cilantro.html
I can't find much information about chelation, though. All the health sites point to one formal research article by one person.
Posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 14:30:40
In reply to Mercury and Lead, posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 13:48:58
"A study published in the Center for Disease Control's Nov. 5, 2004, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report showed that only about six percent of U.S. women of childbearing age have blood mercury levels above safe limits. Your physician can test your blood for mercury, and home tests are available to analyze your hair for mercury (although I can't vouch for their accuracy)."
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA348544
ONLY 6% of childbearing age women? This is a HUGE number..and the psychiatric community ignores this. That could translate to a lot of people needlessly suffering.
I'm only allowed 3 posts in a row, so I am told by moderators, so if I find anything else to share, i'll wait until someone else responds.
Posted by JadeKelly on February 2, 2009, at 14:43:03
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead, posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 14:30:40
> "A study published in the Center for Disease Control's Nov. 5, 2004, Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report showed that only about six percent of U.S. women of childbearing age have blood mercury levels above safe limits. Your physician can test your blood for mercury, and home tests are available to analyze your hair for mercury (although I can't vouch for their accuracy)."
>
> http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA348544
>
> ONLY 6% of childbearing age women? This is a HUGE number..and the psychiatric community ignores this. That could translate to a lot of people needlessly suffering.
>
> I'm only allowed 3 posts in a row, so I am told by moderators, so if I find anything else to share, i'll wait until someone else responds.
>This is all so interesting (the cover up that is-ha), please continue!!!
~Jade
Posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 15:09:00
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead » Garnet71, posted by JadeKelly on February 2, 2009, at 14:43:03
> This is all so interesting (the cover up that is-ha), please continue!!!
> ~Jade
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No Jade, I'm not inquiring about mercury and lead to cover up the embarassment of another post. I'm writing about it because finding my cure has become somewhat obsessive. I am not getting my homeowork done, and if I fail this semester of school my life will be destroyed (it is a long story but the implications are compounded upon many things). But I can't stop coming here and reading; and Googling. I have to stay online for my research project, the project I am trying so hard to do right now - so I can't just shut the internet off. I can't concentrate on my studies.
Sorry for being so serious, but this is really serious. I never knew i had obsessive/compulsive behavior before. Or is this just normal for someone that has been in the mental health system for 9 or 10 years and has only gotten worse?
The interesting thing is that it is a well-paid doctor's job to find my cure; I should not have to spend hours online.
If I find my own cure - I am writing a thank you letter to the founders of Google. I am dead serious about that.
Posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 15:10:52
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead » JadeKelly, posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 15:09:00
If I find my own cure - I am writing a thank you letter to the founders of Google. I am dead serious about that.
.....and cc'ing the letter to all the medical/psychiatric associations; the NIH, the NIMH, and others I will use Google to find.
Posted by JadeKelly on February 2, 2009, at 15:18:22
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead » JadeKelly, posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 15:09:00
Garnet,
I apologize. I didn't even have time to read the mercury posts, I just posted so you could continue. (3 in a row ya know). You seemed to be on a roll and I knew you wanted to finish. I did not mean to take the subject lightly, I just really would like to see you get a lot of responses to your other thread also. Carry on ;-)
~Jade
Posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 15:20:18
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead, posted by JadeKelly on February 2, 2009, at 15:18:22
There's no need to apologize for anything at all. I'm just really frustrated right now. Deadlines are getting closer and I am spending too much time here. You did nothing wrong. I always appreciate hearing from you :)
Posted by janejane on February 2, 2009, at 16:23:18
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead » JadeKelly, posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 15:20:18
I'm glad you like cilantro. Seems to be one of those foods that people either love or hate. I can't stand it myself, but I'm pretty sure I've seen capsules for sale, so folks like me who don't like the taste can go that route instead. :)
As it turns out, I started looking into heavy metal poisoning recently too. I ordered a bottle of vitamin c since it's supposed to be good at removing lead from the blood, but then I got shy about using it after I read an article (can't remember where it was, sorry) that said that most lead ends up being stored in the bones, and it's best not to try to remove it. I guess the idea is that if the bone starts to break down through osteoporosis or whatever, the lead will be released into the blood and start circulating again, possibly causing more problems than if it just stayed there. They actually went so far as to suggest calcium supplementation to keep this from happening. Interesting, huh?
The reason I started looking into it is because I suspect that I was unintentionally exposed to lead twice many years ago (through oyster shell calcium supplements and lead paint dust), but I'm not sure. Do you know whether blood or hair analysis would be able to reveal anything at that this point? It's been so long.
Posted by garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 18:38:57
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead, posted by janejane on February 2, 2009, at 16:23:18
Hi Jane,
That's interesting-the first I ever heard about the bones. Your right about the cilantro-there is a website called ihatecilantro.com too...lol.
I don't know about the hair or blood tests. My house though was built in 1910. I'm sure there is lots of lead paint here. My son and I both have cognitive problems. We both have ADD symptoms. Hmm.
Hopefully someone will pop in and tell you about the tests.
Take care
Posted by Phillipa on February 3, 2009, at 0:27:51
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead » janejane, posted by garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 18:38:57
From what I was taught when involved with Shaklee and took nutritional classes the hair analysis isn't accurate for what's happening in your body today right now as hair takes time to grow and at the time the hair was still in the scalp so to speak getting ready to grow out the dermis is what was going on in your body at that time. They used to say use hair on bottom underneath as close to scalp as possible. And if you color or perm hair that would also factor in. But this osteoporosis and lead? I have osteoporosis and take C 2000mg a day and calcium magnesium. So what now? Phillipa
Posted by janejane on February 3, 2009, at 8:14:05
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead » garnet71, posted by Phillipa on February 3, 2009, at 0:27:51
> But this osteoporosis and lead? I have osteoporosis and take C 2000mg a day and calcium magnesium. So what now? Phillipa
I found an article about the calcium-lead thing:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-10-28-lead-bone_N.htm
Since lead circulating in the blood seems to be more detrimental than that stored in the bones, I would think that taking calcium to keep the bones from leeching lead, and taking C to help get rid of whatever gets into the blood, would be a win-win. But I really don't know, which is why I ended up deciding not to do anything about it for now, especially since I'm not even sure it's a problem I have to begin with. I think I did see something about x-rays being able to detect lead in the bones.
Posted by toduar on February 3, 2009, at 16:48:28
In reply to Mercury and Lead, posted by Garnet71 on February 2, 2009, at 13:48:58
Its not really my business, and im definately no expert, but ive read enough on the subject of mercury detox that i sort of feel obliged to post some advice.
If you suspect mercury toxicity:
1. stop taking cilantro immediately. mercury detox is one of the trickiest things around. there are alot of substances that, used incorrectly, serve only to stir the mercury pools up. (cilantro being one of them). this is dangerous because it can cause the freed up mercury to cross the blood brain barrier, and is very difficult to get out. There are alot of uninformed (if not well meaning) people giving out bad advice on the subject of chelation. from all that i have read, there is only one guy that i trust as the definitive expert on the subject: andrew cutler.
2. buy Amalgam Illness by Cutler. its the definitive guide, and the best money you may ever spend.
3. follow the directions and get an elements hair test from doctors data.
4. join the adult-metal-chelation group and some of the others on yahoo and post your hair test results and get them to help you interpret it.
I hope i didn't come off too strong, but i felt it may be very important to post this.
(I also wanted to thank you for your courage to post your history in your previous thread, and for your commitment to getting well)
all the best, todd
> Thanks to Bleauberry, I've been thinking about mercury and lead lately.
>
> I read an article that strongly suggests the herb cilantro can detoxify metals from our system. Many of you already know this, but I wanted to mention that cilantro is a great-tasting herb; it's not too bitter like parsley. I found a grocery store that sells cilantro for $1.99 for a large bunch. Prior to that, I could only get one of those tiny plastic boxes of it for $3.99! I'm going to try to grow it in the summer.
>
> To get cilantro in your diet: It is great on tacos-anything mexican-and in salads; an asian salad goes very will with cilantro. It is also good chopped and mixed with rice. The best way to get it into your diet-I recently discovered-is in smoothies.
>
> Get frozen berries; Aldis has a very cheap frozen fruits-they have one mix that is pineapple, papaya, guava, and mango. I mix that frozen fruit with a very ripe banana to sweeten, some water to blend (can use yogurt or milk). Maybe a pear or apple or strawberries as well. Add a large handful or 2 of cilantro. The cilantro gives it kind of an orange taste to it - you won't know you are drinking a vegetable this way. I never measure or use a recipe - and the smoothies always come out really good. Having a good blender makes it much better. The one I have is ok; it's old but well made and powerful. I want to buy an even better one - the one that liquifies vegatables completely is $400. But the one I have doesn't liquify the cilantro, but the bits are very small and it doesn't bother me, although I can see how a good blender would work better.
>
> So I've started eating cilantro several times a week, and wanted to share with you all about how to get more in your diet.
>
> :)
Posted by garnet71 on February 3, 2009, at 18:37:17
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead, posted by toduar on February 3, 2009, at 16:48:28
Thanks for the heads up, Todd. I've asked this about 3 times, and i don't think I understand others' answers to my question:
If the mercury in your fillings is vaporizing - then how does any matter remain in the filling? I haven't had chemistry classes since about 20 years ago...but doesn't that pertain to the general properties of matter? Matter can't be 2 places at once; therefore, when the mercury vaporizes - it leaves the filling area. In time, there will be no mercury left in the filling.
lol.
?About fish, wouldn't farm-raised fish mitigate the risk? I tend to buy the wild fish anyway - not knowing what type of anti-food products farm-raised fish are fed. They also put red dye in the salmon - I do know that. I've read that farm-raised fish don't have the same nutrient benefit as the wild (maybe because of the junk they feed them)?
At any rate, scientists have estimated that all the wild fish in the world will be depleted within a few decades. That is kind of scary.
Posted by Phillipa on February 3, 2009, at 20:35:48
In reply to Re: Mercury and Lead » Phillipa, posted by janejane on February 3, 2009, at 8:14:05
Jane don't think I was exposed to much lead as a child as always at the Country Club swimming tennis, running, always been very active. Had ceramic crowns replacing any fillings and too late to change any way it was done. I feel my osteo is more hereditary and from the hasimotos thyroiditis. Thanks for the article. Love Phillipa
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