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Posted by linkadge on March 18, 2006, at 15:43:59
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » Tom Twilight, posted by Meri-Tuuli on March 18, 2006, at 5:31:24
I bet I could find a doctor here in Canada who would tell me (under the table) to go for it.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on March 18, 2006, at 15:47:03
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » Meri-Tuuli, posted by linkadge on March 18, 2006, at 15:43:59
They are working on anadamide uptake inhibitors, as a class of drug for anxiety, insomnia, and depression, which work by increasing the level of certain endocannabanoids.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on March 18, 2006, at 15:51:23
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by linkadge on March 18, 2006, at 15:47:03
Sorry for the multiple posts, but I thought I'd mention something else.
Another factor in my own experience is that doctors simply have no time for me. I see my psychiatrist a maximum of 3 minautes every 6 weeks. This just gives me the message that I really need to take care of myself. I might be more inclined to stick with medication if doctors these days gave any indication that they cared.
Linkadge
Posted by nolvas on March 18, 2006, at 17:03:07
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by linkadge on March 18, 2006, at 15:51:23
Sadly that's how things seem to be these days. In 1992 I had better treatment from doctors than I do today. Less resources now it seems and less time for the patients.
Posted by linkadge on March 19, 2006, at 9:42:23
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by nolvas on March 18, 2006, at 17:03:07
I just can't compile 6 weeks worth of problems into 3 minautes.
I remember going to the doctor after 6 weeks and saying that the medication was preventing me from getting any quality sleep. His response, "try it in the morning, and we'll see you in 6 weeks"
Linkadge
Posted by honeybee on March 20, 2006, at 14:43:38
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » nolvas, posted by linkadge on March 19, 2006, at 9:42:23
Ding! Next in line.
Last time at my pcp, I realized that they're scheduling her appointments 15 minutes apart. The minute we walk in the door, they should just put us on a conveyor...
Posted by linkadge on March 20, 2006, at 20:48:14
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by honeybee on March 20, 2006, at 14:43:38
I really don't know what to do about it. (I guess theres nothing I can do).
I want to keep my foot in the door, but at the same time, I just want to tell the doctor that I think the whole process is just plain a waste of my time. Nothing productive happens since he can never get an accurate picture in such little time.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on March 20, 2006, at 20:51:33
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » honeybee, posted by linkadge on March 20, 2006, at 20:48:14
Thats the thing, I am alotted 15 minautes, but I never get more than 5. He is probaby billing OHIP (canadian insurance) for the full 15.
Linkadge
Posted by honeybee on March 21, 2006, at 8:55:55
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by linkadge on March 20, 2006, at 20:51:33
Of course he is. It wouldn't be a proper Western conveyor-belt system otherwise.
One strategy is to go in armed with a list of questions, arranged most important to least important. Typically, this helps me not at all, but at least by arranging my mind, I get a few more of the pertinant issues addressed.
Are you on meds, though, Linkadge? For some reason I thought you were not...
Posted by linkadge on March 21, 2006, at 21:27:56
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by honeybee on March 21, 2006, at 8:55:55
I have been prescribed clomipramine, and I ocasionally take it. I would like to take it, but I can't concentrate it spaces me out way too much. I am still in school. The doctor is insensitive to this issue.
I used to have some hope before going to such appointments, but it is hard to do so since I have been to uneventfull apointments for over a year.
I am trying to keep my foot in the door in case of a crisis, but I would definately need a longer apointment for anything positive to happen.
With regards to conventional treatment I hate to say but I have just given up on it.
Linkadge
Posted by Declan on March 22, 2006, at 17:42:59
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » honeybee, posted by linkadge on March 20, 2006, at 20:48:14
Hey Link, somewhere around where you live there must be an altruistic doctor who doesn't have a secretarary (to cut down costs) and works from home (for the same reason) and sees you for half an hour. In some bohemian part of town, or out in the country, one who was a hippy in 1968?
Declan
Posted by linkadge on March 23, 2006, at 18:36:03
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » linkadge, posted by Declan on March 22, 2006, at 17:42:59
Now thats my kind of doctor :) !
Though, I don't know if Shopper's Drug Mart will accept his cursive.
Linkadge
Posted by mike99 on March 25, 2006, at 18:22:49
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » Declan, posted by linkadge on March 23, 2006, at 18:36:03
anadamide reuptake inhibition sounds interesting...very...also, sativex is currently in phase 3 trials in the US. I am wondering how likely (or unlikely) pdocs will be willing to prescribe it off label for psych issues...or other docs off label for pain.
(Sativex is a cannabinoid inhaler. It's natural...from actual marijuana).
Skeptically, I will honestly be shocked if it's approved in the US... though it seems a distinct possibility.
Posted by bigcat on April 8, 2006, at 12:33:03
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by Tom Twilight on March 17, 2006, at 15:20:35
pot works. i've tried all the ad's and ect, and pot = guaranteed, immediate peace. i'm getting to the point where I'm ready to quit all psych meds, and if/when I do, I know I can rely on pot to keep me interested in life. my pdoc has the "whatever works" attitude. using pot as a long term solution is something that you are bound to get lots of flack about, but i have found it MUCH more reliable than ad's, and with the right (highly potent) strain, one or two sessions a day may be all you need. another under-appreciated fact about pot: you can eat it. avoid putting smoke in your lungs and enjoy a massively prolonged and intensified response. a brownie a day keeps the doctor away. in the past i tried using pot as my #1 ad, and it was a lost cause because the quality was average. there is some pot out there which will give you 6 full hours of peace with one toke. but more importantly, the effect will not fade out on you as quickly as standard commercial weed (you may gain a tolerance to the "psychedelic" effects, but the anti-anxiolytic and ad effect should remain. i know it makes me a much more loving and thoughtful person, and I like myself more while I'm on it. I've never abused any other drug, and I had my first puff ten years ago. it does plenty enough for me- not the gateway drug it's touted as. i haven't smoked in almost a year, but as ad trials continue to screw with me, I'm thinking of taking a very close look at my closet. good luck.
-matt-
Posted by linkadge on April 9, 2006, at 11:55:57
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by bigcat on April 8, 2006, at 12:33:03
I agree with a lot that you've said. I have never used other illegal substances, and really have no intention to.
The big difference I see between marajuanna and SSRIs/TCA's is that my quality of life on pot was better. Less aches and pains, no insane stomach cramps like with AD's, no horrible insomia, no lost appetite, no apathy. I don't need a whole lot. A puff or two will curb anxiety, and insomnia. The thing that I admire the most is that it doesn't cause akathesia, (I can still play the piano without my fingers getting all stiff and unresponsive) like they do on SSRI's.
CB-1 (cannabanoid receptor agonists) are being developed as antidepressants, no its not as if people's claims about it are completely unfounded.
Posted by krystee on April 9, 2006, at 20:43:42
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » bigcat, posted by linkadge on April 9, 2006, at 11:55:57
Am I the only one here who pot completely freaks out? I remember feeling kinda good on it when I was younger but about 10 years later it made me feel like a lunatic! Total panic attack in a bag for me...what does that mean? Am I schizophrenic or something? Plus, I could never stop smoking it I would smoke like 10 times a day...haven't smoked now for almost 2 years.
Posted by Declan on April 10, 2006, at 6:59:49
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by krystee on April 9, 2006, at 20:43:42
On Erowid, I read an account by this person and he found one pupil dilated and another constricted after smoking, with major mental disturbances.
It's strange that you can repeat something you don't enjoy for so long. It's disasterous for some people. Most, I would guess, find it mildly unpleasant and entertaining, up to a point.
Declan
Posted by ghuber on April 10, 2006, at 22:01:44
In reply to so, im smoking pot now..., posted by med_empowered on March 17, 2006, at 2:04:15
Swag (AKA dirt weed) works better to relax and make one tired then high grade buds. The real good stuff is too instense for many people and will do more harm than good causing anxiety and paranoia, and making for an unpleasant experience.
Also, if you smoke weed enough it tends to make your head "foggy" and will slow your mind down. This also tends to be a good thing for people that have anxiety disorders or overly active minds.
Posted by Declan on April 11, 2006, at 1:09:32
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by ghuber on April 10, 2006, at 22:01:44
I wonder if it's good for people who are a bit manic. Something to break up that linear amphetaminey mentality. There was someone who became manic after discontinuing heavy use for many years.
Swag's just Cannabis?
Declan
Posted by linkadge on April 12, 2006, at 0:56:08
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » ghuber, posted by Declan on April 11, 2006, at 1:09:32
Not everybody reacts the same way.
I know that many people consider pot a mood stabilizer. I kindof found it a mood stabilizer.
Linkadge
Posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 3:00:39
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by linkadge on April 12, 2006, at 0:56:08
I've known people who are probably bipolar who self medicate successfully on cannabis. The thing about the bloke going manic was meant to support that, although I didn't make it very clear. He hadn't been bipolar before using, but he used *very* heavily for 5 years or so and suddenly stopped. And then went manic. I found it good for coming down off speed, which I imagine is somewhat similar. Very good for people who are talking too much.
Declan
Posted by ghuber on April 12, 2006, at 21:59:59
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » ghuber, posted by Declan on April 11, 2006, at 1:09:32
Yeah swag is a low grade marijuana... It does not contain as much THC as high grade buds. Most people report a sleeper, somewhat more lethargic high vs one that is produced by high grade buds.
As I mentioned, high grade buds sometimes make one parnoid and anxious, while swag buds do not. They'll make you hungry, somewhat high, and a tad bit later very sleepy... Good stuff to do try before you go to bed.
Posted by linkadge on April 13, 2006, at 19:43:52
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now... » linkadge, posted by Declan on April 12, 2006, at 3:00:39
Yeah, its hard to diagnose people with mental illnesses based on abrupt changes in drug usage.
When I smoked, I didn't need much at all, perhaps only two deep pufs. The feeling was so familiar, I get the same feeling if I run a LONG distnace, just kindof heavy, sleepy, hungry, and blissfull. I found that omega-3 and a little marajuanna worked well together. I remember feeling really normal on the two.
I remember reading some study on one compound in marajuanna being particularly effective for people with ADHD.
Linkadge
Posted by Anne-Charlotte on April 15, 2006, at 8:37:49
In reply to Re: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by linkadge on April 13, 2006, at 19:43:52
Linkadge,
??
What is your deal? I remember a few weeks ago you jumped all over somebody- Daniellia or something for saying that she didnt think Big Pharm drugs were the way to go.
You hand out advice (very quasi authoritative sounding) regarding all sorts of prescriptions and then admit that you have given up on them all. What's up with that?? I am sorry for your suffering. At the same time, it is not cool to trumpet advice when you are playing for both sides, or basically lost as to where you stand on these issues...Ah yes, that was it: your statement went something like "wouldn't you take diabetes medication if you had diabetes' hence implying that there is something wrong with somebody who decides to ride it out if they have a mental illness without the "aid" of meds.
Sounds to me like you should have stuck to the spliff all along, pal... with or without that vaporizer of yours.
We all know Big Pharm meds create LT damage, humans are guinea pigs & weed comes from the earth, pure and simple.
Posted by SLS on April 16, 2006, at 15:38:35
In reply to Linkadge: so, im smoking pot now..., posted by Anne-Charlotte on April 15, 2006, at 8:37:49
> We all know Big Pharm meds create LT damage,
What is LT damage?
> humans are guinea pigs & weed comes from the earth, pure and simple
So does hemlock and belladonna. If a substance is active pharmacologically, it doesn't matter what the source is.
- Scott
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