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lithium orotate toxicity or side effects

Posted by joebob on September 12, 2003, at 14:49:05

i've been watching the boards and the lithium orotate posts

i also read the paper by the post doc candidate, saying orotates are toxic

then it occured to me that with so many people trying the stuff there should by now be some reports of side effects/toxicity

so you guys any stories about it being bad????? all i've seen posted is positive or neutral

thanks

 

Re: lithium orotate toxicity or side effects » joebob

Posted by Rob25 on September 30, 2003, at 15:12:35

In reply to lithium orotate toxicity or side effects, posted by joebob on September 12, 2003, at 14:49:05

> i also read the paper by the post doc candidate, saying orotates are toxic

Can you tell me where this is? Since I am taking this stuff, with very good results, btw, I would like to read this paper. This has been the thing that has worked better for me than anything else and I'm going to be pretty bummed if I learn that I'm actually slowly killing myself or something. Of course, maybe better slowly than quick and ugly like I used to think about many times before I got leveled out, right? That was a joke, sort of....

Rob

 

Re: lithium orotate toxicity or side effects

Posted by Larry Hoover on October 4, 2003, at 9:04:35

In reply to lithium orotate toxicity or side effects, posted by joebob on September 12, 2003, at 14:49:05

> i've been watching the boards and the lithium orotate posts
>
> i also read the paper by the post doc candidate, saying orotates are toxic
>
> then it occured to me that with so many people trying the stuff there should by now be some reports of side effects/toxicity

Lithium orotate was one of the salts investigated for lithium prophylaxis of bipolar disorder, way back in the 1970's. For some reason, not clear to me, they settled on lithium carbonate and lithium chloride. Studies in rats showed that orotate is toxic to the kidneys, so perhaps the "effectiveness" of lithium orotate is mediated by blocking excretion....not a good thing, if that's how it "works".

> so you guys any stories about it being bad????? all i've seen posted is positive or neutral
>
> thanks

You should check for posts by barbaracat. She had a really bad experience with it. Now, she's bipolar, and she needs lithium. She totally decompensated when she substituted lithium orotate for lithium chloride (or was it the carbonate?).

Lar


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