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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2015, at 17:04:26
do you have one, dr-bob?
i don't think it is fair for you to just vanish. because something might have happened to you.
if something does happen to you... what will happen to the site?
if (god forbid) you die, or something, then do you at least have someone lined up to let us know? or will the place just vanish one day... if a server bill doesn't get paid, or something...
please. in some sense... after all these years... don't we have some kind of a right to know?
Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 24, 2015, at 17:55:51
In reply to exit strategy, posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2015, at 17:04:26
>after all these years... don't we have some kind of a right to know?
It has been years, many (in spite of needing a new posting name in 2010 when I lost my old one). I'd like to know what's going on too.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2015, at 18:20:05
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by ed_uk2010 on January 24, 2015, at 17:55:51
Admittedly I've taken a few years time out, here and there... But I still feel that it is unlike Bob to vanish for such a long time.
Can someone who knows how contact him? Just so we know he's alright. Or alive. Or something...
I'd try... But I bet it's next to impossible to find how to contact him by google... For fairly obvious reasons... I have emailed him, some time ago, and I haven't had any response...
When was the last time anybody actually did hear from him? Do we know for sure that he deleted some x poster stuff... Could that have been someone else?
Things just don't feel right :(
Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 24, 2015, at 18:55:09
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2015, at 18:20:05
I can't see any evidence of him being here since mid-November. It is very unusual.
Posted by Phillipa on January 25, 2015, at 8:59:51
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by ed_uk2010 on January 24, 2015, at 18:55:09
Ed he's not been there but I did see a Linkedin where his name was. Whether he is active no idea. I wonder if he's still on facebook? I think 10derheart does some redirecting so maybe she is taking it over? Phillipa
Posted by 10derheart on January 25, 2015, at 22:07:54
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by Phillipa on January 25, 2015, at 8:59:51
> I think 10derheart does some redirecting so maybe she is taking it over?
Why do you think so? I posted that I have not been a deputy for ***5.5 years*** I posted that to the thread you started on the Meds board on 1/3/2015. Maybe you could read those posts?
When a deputy resigns, there is NO access to admin functions of this site. All passwords are changed, all tools Bob gave us to delete, move, edit - completely erased. We are exactly the same as you - we have his email listed at the bottom of each page.
Yes, way, way, back... some deputies took Dr. Bob's cell #...maybe pager, too, but not me. That was mainly for contact if a poster made a threat of imminent suicide in a post. I don't remember who took that, and who knows if it would even be accurate any more.
I'll shoot him a quick email as soon as a I can and see if I can get his attention. But seriously, he has been absent for over 2 months before. He does what he wants.
Posted by 10derheart on January 25, 2015, at 22:12:15
In reply to exit strategy, posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2015, at 17:04:26
I agree with everything you wrote.
But be careful about your expectations. You know very well how that goes. I'm sure I myself have failed miserably to meet yours over the years.
Just sayin'....you know how he rolls. Now, of course, if anything happened to him I'll feel like a fool, but odds are, just SOP.
He's seems quite healthy and is not so terribly old, so, I say he's fine. Just infuriating.
--10der
Posted by Phillipa on January 26, 2015, at 9:06:53
In reply to No, I do not. And I still think he's okay. » Phillipa, posted by 10derheart on January 25, 2015, at 22:07:54
Since this seemed to be a thread of speculation my speculation was it could be you assuming the role of him to help others out not in an official role. So no idea where he is. Just expect this site to no longer be here one day as he doesn't have time. Phillipa
Posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2015, at 20:45:13
In reply to Re: exit strategy » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on January 25, 2015, at 22:12:15
You haven't failed to meet any of my expectations. Really... I... Think I will always feel a little bad / regretful of having failed to meet yours. That time I was in hospital... People tried to get hold of me... And I hurt you / scared you. I'm sorry for that. But also... Amazed, really, at how much you must have cared. That means a lot to me. It always will. You have... Exceeded my expectations. Beyond measure.
> He's seems quite healthy and is not so terribly old, so, I say he's fine. Just infuriating.
Good. I hope so.
I don't remember him ever having gone AWOL like this before... But I have had years away so in a very real sense I wouldn't know.
It was gg who contacted him once before, I think... Me, too, actually... Damn... I bet the SIS (intelligence service) would love to employ a person like her... Wonder how she's doing these days...
Anyway... Maybe Dinah or someone can? I guess he hasn't changed his cellphone? People tend not to... I just... Can't track him down at all (tried a bit)... But I know Dr's tend to do that for obvious reasons... Liability etc... Anyway... Things just don't feel right to me. They just... Don't. I would like to feel pissed at him rather than like this... I emailed Dinah but I don't know if she uses that address anymore....
Posted by 10derheart on January 27, 2015, at 22:55:08
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by alexandra_k on January 27, 2015, at 20:45:13
In the time right before I quit being a deputy, he disappeared for over a month, I thought closer to two, but I don't have time to search through my hundreds of saved emails from 6+ years ago - if I mentioned it to anyone - to verify. But it was weeks and weeks and weeks and a BIG reason why I quit.
He posted 15 photos to his FB page Jan 3rd...does that help you at all? Go look :-) Only 3 weeks ago...and deleting manic's posts was much more recent. Sure...he could have taught someone else how, but that is totally out of character. He has never done that for a non-deputy, non-prior Babbler before...well, since 2007 or so anyway.
I don't know that Dinah is really acknowledging anything to do with PB right now, but she cares about you, of course.
I know hunches and intuition are important, but not so terribly accurate, either.
Sorry...I gotta go for now...schoolwork...but hey, you never let me down, I just wanted to kill you cuz you were okay...and I know you know what I mean....but I got how that could happen. Really.
Posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2015, at 1:46:26
In reply to Re: exit strategy » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on January 27, 2015, at 22:55:08
> He posted 15 photos to his FB page Jan 3rd...does that help you at all? Go look :-) Only 3 weeks ago...and deleting manic's posts was much more recent. Sure...he could have taught someone else how, but that is totally out of character. He has never done that for a non-deputy, non-prior Babbler before...well, since 2007 or so anyway.
ok. i wll... assume he's gallivanting around the world, or something, then.
> I know hunches and intuition are important, but not so terribly accurate, either.
yes. i thought he might be ignoring me because i did badly in physics. but of course i know that's ridiculous. really, i do.
> I just wanted to kill you cuz you were okay...and I know you know what I mean....but I got how that could happen. Really.
I... Sort of don't understand what you mean. I didn't then... And I still don't. I mean... I didn't do anything irrevokable to myself, or whatever... But I really wasn't okay. That was how come I was in hospital. Because I really... Wasn't okay. And I didn't mean to worry anybody... But I didn't have internet access from hospital... And I was pretty zonked on meds... So I didn't mean to disappear... I mean... I do understand that you were upset because you were worried and you cared... But I don't really understand why you felt angry with me. I'm sorry.
Posted by 10derheart on January 29, 2015, at 14:05:00
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2015, at 1:46:26
Maybe it's just a parent thing, then. Even if you've never felt it, surely you must have seen it in a movie...etc. When the 5-year old disappears suddenly in the park, or a big store, and the most gut-wrenching panic overtakes you, thinking every horrific thing possible has happened and you are never going to see them alive again, etc., etc., etc. Then...they appear, and are "okay" - in the sense of this example, not kidnapped or dead. As a mom... you are flooded with relief followed **immediately** by a very specific sort of anger - the "don't you EVER do that again or I'll kill you!" - kind.
That's what I meant. The happiness/relief and anger at being so terrified - albeit contradictory - do coexist in that moment. Not rational or that the child (not understanding the effects of their actions on others yet) or you (sorta the same but for more complex, adult reasons, plus circumstances like you said) could have actually *avoided* it, but it's a pure emotional outburst of what we/I wished could have not happened...no logic there.
And no, I never/don't think of you as a child in relation to me...just as someone who was suffering and in need at that time and in need of help/caring by others who are at least more stable/strong/okay.
Of course, you weren't okay. By that I meant, like with the small child terror - okay = not dead or comatose. I hope that makes sense.
Dr. Bob's pics - just guessing - look like colleagues/faculty, etc., just by age, backgrounds of photos, etc. But I wouldn't know.
He really should post something. We need Poet to cyber-slap the heck out of him, methinks :-)
Posted by ed_uk2010 on January 29, 2015, at 14:10:36
In reply to Re: exit strategy » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on January 29, 2015, at 14:05:00
Perhaps Dr. B is rushing to complete a paper he's writing....
Posted by alexandra_k on January 29, 2015, at 21:29:39
In reply to Re: exit strategy » alexandra_k, posted by 10derheart on January 29, 2015, at 14:05:00
Thanks for explaining. Maybe it is a parent thing. I haven't felt it. But I have seen it, and I think I can get into the spirit of it, if that makes sense. I (of all people) know that emotions do what they want to sometimes... No point feeling embarrassed about them, or whatever. Only make 'em worse.
> Dr. Bob's pics - just guessing - look like colleagues/faculty, etc., just by age, backgrounds of photos, etc. But I wouldn't know.
Ah, well. So long as he's okay. Even if he has forgotten about the rest of us. Sniff.
Glad you are still around
:-)
Posted by Dr. Bob on February 15, 2015, at 20:37:57
In reply to exit strategy, posted by alexandra_k on January 24, 2015, at 17:04:26
> do you have one, dr-bob?
>
> i don't think it is fair for you to just vanish. because something might have happened to you.
>
> if something does happen to you... what will happen to the site?
>
> if (god forbid) you die, or something, then do you at least have someone lined up to let us know? or will the place just vanish one day... if a server bill doesn't get paid, or something...Good question. It's something I've thought a lot about, but I don't (yet) have a plan. I agree, it would be better to have one, and for Babblers to know that. I've actually signed up for a session on "professional wills" to try to make some progress on this. So stay tuned,
Bob
Posted by ClearSkies on February 16, 2015, at 8:56:11
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by Dr. Bob on February 15, 2015, at 20:37:57
> > do you have one, dr-bob?
> >
> > i don't think it is fair for you to just vanish. because something might have happened to you.
> >
> > if something does happen to you... what will happen to the site?
> >
> > if (god forbid) you die, or something, then do you at least have someone lined up to let us know? or will the place just vanish one day... if a server bill doesn't get paid, or something...
>
> Good question. It's something I've thought a lot about, but I don't (yet) have a plan. I agree, it would be better to have one, and for Babblers to know that. I've actually signed up for a session on "professional wills" to try to make some progress on this. So stay tuned,
>
> BobExcellent plan, Dr. Bob. We all have to move forward.
Clearskies
Posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 14:09:56
In reply to Re: exit strategy » Dr. Bob, posted by ClearSkies on February 16, 2015, at 8:56:11
Do we need new deputies? Or wouldn't that work?
Posted by alexandra_k on February 16, 2015, at 16:24:36
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 14:09:56
i guess i always imagined that he'd give the site to dinah. but i don't think she wants us. sniff.
Posted by Phillipa on February 16, 2015, at 19:00:50
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by ed_uk2010 on February 16, 2015, at 14:09:56
Ed are you saying you would be open to becoming a Deputy? You would be excellent as one. PJ
Posted by obsidian on February 21, 2015, at 20:16:04
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by Dr. Bob on February 15, 2015, at 20:37:57
Oh, dr bob...
It was the best of times,
It was the worst of times
;-)
Posted by alexandra_k on February 22, 2015, at 1:12:03
In reply to Re: exit strategy, posted by Dr. Bob on February 15, 2015, at 20:37:57
> I've actually signed up for a session on "professional wills"
rather you than me lol. that sounds terribly boring.
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