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Posted by Phillipa on August 14, 2006, at 20:39:54
In reply to Re: Lou's reply yo Phillipa-- » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 20:36:56
Nope!!!!!!Love Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 20:45:45
In reply to Re: Lou's reply yo Phillipa-- » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 20:36:56
Phillipa,
Hear is a link that in a short space describes the life of Martin Luther King jr.
And he took a bullet for...?
www.thekingcenter.org/mlk/bio.html
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 20:49:09
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Phillipa--freatls » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 20:45:45
Posted by Jost on August 14, 2006, at 22:14:24
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to crazy teresa » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 9:21:24
> ct,
> You wrote,[...figure things out by osmosis...currently flawed system...]
> Do you think that it is conducive to civc harmony and welfare to have to figure things out by osmosis? And are you saying that you think that asking to clarify rules is uncivil because one is to keep the system flawed and asking for clarification could have the potential to unflaw the system?
> LouI had one other question, Lou, after reading some of what you've written in the past two days.
The question is as follows:
Do you think it's possible to arrive at a general understanding of what a rule is--ie how it will be applied-- after reading the rule and encountering a few instances of its application?
If you feel it isn't possible to arrive at a general understanding, do you know why it's so hard for you to do that?
thanks, Jost
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 22:45:30
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to crazy teresa » Lou Pilder, posted by Jost on August 14, 2006, at 22:14:24
Hi Jost,
You have some very good questions for me, and I appreciate that.
Let us look at;
[...do you think that it's possible to
A.Have an ubderstanding of a rule
B.how it will be applied
C seing its application...]
Yes
Lou
Posted by crazy teresa on August 15, 2006, at 6:22:15
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to crazy teresa » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 9:21:24
I'm not saying anything other than that's the just the way things are.
Posted by crazy teresa on August 15, 2006, at 6:23:29
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to crazy teresa- » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 9:14:53
I could, but my opinion doesn't matter.
Posted by crazy teresa on August 15, 2006, at 6:42:56
In reply to Lou's reply to crazy teresa » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 14, 2006, at 5:59:29
The oppression of a group of people does not compare to following the rules on Babble.
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 10:18:24
In reply to You're not comparing apples to apples. » Lou Pilder, posted by crazy teresa on August 15, 2006, at 6:42:56
ct,
You wrote,[...the oppression to a group of people does not compare to following the rules on Babble...]
The oppression of a group of people can start with the oppression of just one of those people in that group.
What I am wanting dialog about here is as to the rules being
A. well-defined
B. applied equally.
The rules here stress that one is not to post what could lead another to feel accused or put down or to post what could be insensitive to another, or to put down those of other faiths. If there are statements that lead me as a Jew here to feel accused or put down, and those statements are not sanctioned as other statements are in the same fashion, then I feel put down by the nature that the administration is unwilling to apply equally their own rules
In the case at hand, are there not statements that accuse the Jews of killing Christ and are not sanctioned as other statements that accuse someone here? Can I not exercise due diligence to stop this from being fostered on this forum by the nature that since those type of statements are not sanctioned as others are that accuse, that others could be led to think that those statements are civil?
Lou
Posted by crazy teresa on August 16, 2006, at 12:39:12
In reply to Lou's reply to Crazy Teresa » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 10:18:24
Dr. Bob is not a governmental body, so comparing him to one is not a valid comparison.
You might also consider the fact that your comparisons could serve to inflate his ego, in turn, feeding his god complex, so please cease and desist! ;~}
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 14:14:12
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Crazy Teresa » Lou Pilder, posted by crazy teresa on August 16, 2006, at 12:39:12
ct,
You wrote,[Dr. Bob...feeding his (Dr.Hsiung's) God complex...].
Are you meaning any of the following?
A. you think Dr. Hsiung has a god- complex
B. people, in your thinking, have a god-complex
C. psychiatrists have a god-complex
D. all of the above
E. some of the above
F something else...
Lou
Posted by crazy teresa on August 16, 2006, at 18:12:06
In reply to Lou's reply to Crazy Teresa- » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 14:14:12
Posters have discussed this before; the site is run accordingly. That's okay. It's his site and he can do whatever he wants with it.
Why do you seem to object to this so strongly? No place is perfect. Life is NEVER fair. Why do you expect PB to be? PB is run by a human whom is imperfect.
Posted by crazy teresa on August 16, 2006, at 18:12:57
In reply to A, posted by crazy teresa on August 16, 2006, at 18:12:06
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 19:02:17
In reply to You're not comparing apples to apples. » Lou Pilder, posted by crazy teresa on August 15, 2006, at 6:42:56
crazy teresa,
Please do not post to me
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20060802/msgs/676598.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 19:06:45
In reply to Lou's request to crazy teresa to not post to him » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 19:02:17
crazy teresa,
Please do not post to me.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20060802/msgs/676598.html
Posted by crazy teresa on August 17, 2006, at 9:19:56
In reply to Lou's request -corrected link for DNP to me » Lou Pilder, posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 19:06:45
I thought we were dialoging in a civil manner.
I will respect your decision to reject my support and no longer post to you. But it won't change the fact that I gave you something to think about...
Posted by Dinah on August 17, 2006, at 10:26:29
In reply to What happened Lou? » Lou Pilder, posted by crazy teresa on August 17, 2006, at 9:19:56
I'm sorry, but after someone's asked you to not post to them, site guidelines require that you do not address any further posts to them at all.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
I'm hoping the FAQ are up to date on this issue. :)
Follow-ups regarding these issues, as well as replies to the above posts, should of course themselves be civil.
Dr. Bob is always free to override deputy decisions. His email is on the bottom of each page. Please feel free to email him if you believe this decision was made in error.
Posted by crazy teresa on August 17, 2006, at 14:08:27
In reply to Please follow site guidelines » crazy teresa, posted by Dinah on August 17, 2006, at 10:26:29
Have they changed? I thought you got a reply to the DNP.
Posted by Dinah on August 17, 2006, at 15:03:41
In reply to Re: Please follow site guidelines » Dinah, posted by crazy teresa on August 17, 2006, at 14:08:27
No. It's possible to comment on it, but only very carefully, and in no way addressing the requestor. Which is very difficult in practice.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 27, 2006, at 1:51:31
In reply to Lou's reply to Crazy Teresa » crazy teresa, posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2006, at 10:18:24
> are there not statements that accuse the Jews of killing Christ and are not sanctioned
If there are, I'm sorry about that, since I agree, they could lead Jews to feel accused and therefore aren't civil.
Bob
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 27, 2006, at 11:03:43
In reply to Re: Lou's reply, posted by Dr. Bob on August 27, 2006, at 1:51:31
> > are there not statements that accuse the Jews of killing Christ and are not sanctioned
>
> If there are, I'm sorry about that, since I agree, they could lead Jews to feel accused and therefore aren't civil.
>
> Bob
DR. Hsiung,
You wrote that if there are {posts that accuse the Jews of killing Christ} that you are sorry about that{not sanctioning those posts} and agree that they are not civil.
There are many many of those posts that have gone unsanctioned for even years.
And now, there are many of those that when you click in what led to the statement that the Jews killed Christ, that a page comes up,"The URL address was not found"
Have those posts been altered on their own? If not, do you know who has modified those posts and now has altered the content by having those posts not to be able to be seen now?
An apology is a very good thing. The Jewish community is looking at how this is being handled.
I am asking;
A. that you restore the posts to their original content regardless as to how they were altered
B. that you post in each and every thread that has statements that could arouse antisemitic feelings, or say in any way that the Jews killed Christ, deride Jews, condemn Jews, defame Jews, or any other uncivl statement, your apology there.
Lou Pilder
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
Posted by Racer on August 27, 2006, at 13:00:38
In reply to Lou's reply to Dr. Hsiung's reply to Lou » Dr. Bob, posted by Lou Pilder on August 27, 2006, at 11:03:43
> > > > And now, there are many of those that when you click in what led to the statement that the Jews killed Christ, that a page comes up,"The URL address was not found"
> Have those posts been altered on their own? If not, do you know who has modified those posts and now has altered the content by having those posts not to be able to be seen now?
>
> I am asking;
> A. that you restore the posts to their original content regardless as to how they were alteredLou, my guess is that the pages which had been linked to have now been removed. The change has nothing to do with this site, but with the owner of the site those pages were on. There's nothing Dr Bob can do about it in that case.
Posted by gardenergirl on August 27, 2006, at 13:54:27
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Dr. Hsiung's reply to Lou » Lou Pilder, posted by Racer on August 27, 2006, at 13:00:38
...and I've said it before. The URL's were to completed searches, which are not stable over time. Reindexing a site is one task that affects completed searches. It's been a few years since those search results were obtained and accessed at that URL. You can still find the content if you perform the same search.
gg
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 27, 2006, at 14:27:16
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Dr. Hsiung's reply to Lou » Lou Pilder, posted by Racer on August 27, 2006, at 13:00:38
Friends,
It is suggested that the owner of the site that the pagers were on, has removed them.
I have talked to their technical dept and they say that they would not do that and that they are still there.
You can call them at the number that is given in their web site.
I have asked Dr. Hsiung and The owner of the other site and myself to have a conference about this and I have not received a reply from either.
The technical chief that I did talk to said that he could "go to it".
Lou PIlder
If anyone wants the URLs to these, they cam email me and I will also give you the ones that are still there that have the potential to arrouse antisemitic feelings
lpilder_1188@fuse.net
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 27, 2006, at 14:34:10
In reply to I agree with Racer, posted by gardenergirl on August 27, 2006, at 13:54:27
gg,
I have asked Dr. Hsiung to restore those posts regardless as to how they became going to,[...URL not found...].
And anyway, there are many others that are from that same place that are still there in their original form that have statements that accuse Jews, and insult Jews.
Then there is the discussions ther inthe thread that shows what was there that id=s not there now.
Lou Pilder
I think that the other site has the final ruling on how this has happend and I am awaiting thir email to me.
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