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Posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 13:02:59
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Shy_Girl, posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 12:50:37
Sorry people, I should have given the first post to my civility buddy before posting it, but I was a little suspicious of a conspiracy. I'm sorry about my behaviour, I'm not sure what is wrong with me. I think sometimes that I *might* be playing some sort of elaborate *game* here, but I'm confused because I shouldn't get so upset if it was ONLY a game.
Again, sorry Dr. Bob, I'm sure your intentions are good and not evil. No reply is needed.
Posted by partlycloudy on May 4, 2005, at 13:16:16
In reply to Re: Sorry about my post and behaviour, posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 13:02:59
Shy Girl, I don't think this is a game. What I do think it is, though, is a complex group dynamic. It's easy to see over the course of a few hours how our posts here can affect one another. I hope you can see that you have been received with interest, compassion, and understanding by the other babblers.
So - are *you* playing a game with us?
Posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 14:40:59
In reply to Re: Sorry about my post and behaviour » Shy_Girl, posted by partlycloudy on May 4, 2005, at 13:16:16
> So - are *you* playing a game with us?
No, I don't think I'm playing a game, at least not intentionally. I think my problem is that I get confused sometimes and think that babbleland is a fantasy place. When conversing with individuals IRL I don't seem to have this problem as much.
Part of the reason for my inital question is because I've been hurt immensely by being blocked and I'm not sure if Dr. Bob realizes just how much harm he can inflict upon individuals here. Does the ends (a civil and welcoming community) justify the means (hurting people to the point of self harm or possible death)? The blocked do not have a voice here, so it could be that Dr. Bob does a lot more harm than he realizes. I sincerely hope that people have not killed themselves because of being banned from this alluring community. Perhaps there should be greater warnings about the possible harm of participating in such a community.
Posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 14:41:04
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Shy_Girl, posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 12:50:37
Curiouser and curiouser.
Don't forget to drink your Ovaltine!
gg
Posted by sunny10 on May 4, 2005, at 14:53:25
In reply to Who is code directed to? DAC? » Shy_Girl, posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 14:41:04
have you been put on any medication recently that may cause you to have paranoid thoughts?
"No one can hurt your feelings unless you let them" is a cliched psychology phrase, but there is truth there.
Neither Dr. Bob nor anyone else can make anyone hurt/kill themselves. Only we have that power.
I don't recall any of your other threads having this kind of "conspiracy theory" intensity to them and it makes me nervous for you. I do wonder if it has anything to do with your recent diagnosis and maybe meds were prescribed?
I certainly don't feel comfortable that these thoughts are racing through your mind; they must be really hurting you inside.
Could you see whether a change of meds (or getting some if you don't have prescriptions) would help you to feel better?
I care about you, no codes and no games- and no, I don't believe the board needs a god, if that was your coded question.
We have a very benevolent administrator here who simply is providing us with a platform to meet and help each other. His rules only exist so that we don't hurt each other by accident.
There have been a couple mean posters, but the rest of us push them out pretty darn fast, so we'll try to protect you from them like we protect ourselves.
Take care, okay?
-sunny10
Posted by Dinah on May 4, 2005, at 14:54:30
In reply to Re: Am I playing a game? » partlycloudy, posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 14:40:59
There have also been suicidal actions as a result from incivility from fellow posters.
When I first started Babbling, I was very much in contact with my therapist about whether this was a healthy place to be given my mental state at that time. I think anyone involved in anything where they doubt their own ability to cope with the consequences of participating should contact their own mental health practitioner and discuss their concerns.
Dr. Bob is the first to admit that Babble is not for everyone.
But Babble itself probably isn't in the best place to determine that for any poster. The best place is for a poster to confer with his therapist or psychiatrist.
Have you discussed your feelings with your therapist?
Posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 16:09:09
In reply to Re: Shy_Girl, posted by sunny10 on May 4, 2005, at 14:53:25
> have you been put on any medication recently that may cause you to have paranoid thoughts?
No, I'm only on 40mg Celexa...why do you ask? Did someone make you write this? I didn't say my thoughts are paranoid.
> "No one can hurt your feelings unless you let them" is a cliched psychology phrase, but there is truth there.I'm not letting anyone hurt me. People hurt me anyways.
> Neither Dr. Bob nor anyone else can make anyone hurt/kill themselves. Only *we?* have that power.No, but one can intentionally drive a person to do so through careful manipulation.
> I don't recall any of your other threads having this kind of "conspiracy theory" intensity to them and it makes me nervous for you.How do you know for sure?
>I do wonder if it has anything to do with your recent diagnosis and maybe meds were prescribed?
There is nothing seriously wrong with me, my pdoc told me so...that is why I only need Celexa.
> I certainly don't feel comfortable that these thoughts are racing through your mind; they must be really hurting you inside.
What makes you think my thoughts are racing???
> Could you see whether a change of meds (or getting some if you don't have prescriptions) would help you to feel better?
What's with the meds? Why do you want to push meds on me?? This is not the meds board...this is inappropriate.
> Take care, okay?
> -sunny10Ok, thanks for the concern.
Posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 16:15:11
In reply to Re: Am I playing a game? » Shy_Girl, posted by Dinah on May 4, 2005, at 14:54:30
> ... I think anyone involved in anything where they doubt their own ability to cope with the consequences of participating should contact their own mental health practitioner and discuss their concerns.
(snip)
> Have you discussed your feelings with your therapist?
My pdoc said the block was like going to jail for shopping-lifting, it doesn't matter why I did the bad thing. She said you guys don't want me dead, because the group values life.
This is beside the point...this discussion is going off topic and doesn't belong in admin.
Posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 16:32:54
In reply to Re: Am I playing a game?, posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 16:15:11
Take a look at this:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20050426/msgs/491615.html
Then the poster changed and wrote me this:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20050426/msgs/491897.html
That was just what I needed to feel better...now how can a person change one's thoughts and writing style so abruptly without influence?? How can I be sure someone was not telling the poster what to write?
Posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 16:49:19
In reply to Re: Possible conspiracy?, posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 16:32:54
Posted by TofuEmmy on May 4, 2005, at 17:14:12
In reply to Re: Possible conspiracy?, posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 16:32:54
I guess there are several possibilities.
1) I COULD have posted, then conspired with someone to....um...cheer you up?
2) I could have been angry and hurt in my first post. Then later, calmed down and posted to you again?
3) I could have DID.
4) I could be a moody wench.
5) I could be conspiring with Dr Bob to infiltrate the web and all brains attached to it.
6) I could have had PMS, then took a pill.
7) I could have been..um...too bored to go on.
You get the drift. The possibilities are endless. See #2 and #4 for the truth. Sure wished you had ASKED me instead of accusing of me of conspiring with lord knows who to do who knows what.
emmy
Posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 18:02:11
In reply to Re: I'm a Conspirator ? Neato. » Shy_Girl, posted by TofuEmmy on May 4, 2005, at 17:14:12
I thInk moody wench is just Fine, reAlly. I mean, I'm only fRiends with you because I'm afraid noT to bE.
Just kidDing.
:-p
gg
Posted by Shy_Girl on May 4, 2005, at 18:23:54
In reply to Re: I'm a Conspirator ? Neato. » TofuEmmy, posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 18:02:11
Hehe, gg...that's funny
Sorry TofuEmmy, I didn't mean to say you were a conspirator in a bad way. Whether or not it was conspired or not, it was nice 'cause it made me feel better, thanks.
ok, back to admin :-)
Posted by TofuEmmy on May 4, 2005, at 18:47:00
In reply to Re: I'm a Conspirator ? Neato. » TofuEmmy, posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 18:02:11
GG - I never knew you cared enough to...um...open yourself up like that!! (wrinkles nose...)
P.S. you win the contest for my very favoritist post ever! you made me snort cranberry juice.
Posted by henrietta on May 4, 2005, at 20:04:41
In reply to Who is code directed to? DAC? » Shy_Girl, posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 14:41:04
this isn't the first time i've wanted to ask you this, by any means. are you quite sure you're in the right profession? just curious
Posted by Dinah on May 4, 2005, at 20:19:28
In reply to Re: Who is code directed to? DAC? » gardenergirl, posted by henrietta on May 4, 2005, at 20:04:41
I'm quite sure she would do well in any number of professions. Therapy is lucky to get her.
Posted by Dinah on May 4, 2005, at 20:24:59
In reply to Re: Am I playing a game? » Shy_Girl, posted by Dinah on May 4, 2005, at 14:54:30
wrote it, but I wasn't home and then forgot.
> There have also been suicidal actions as a result from incivility from fellow posters.
I phrased that badly, and not as I intended. I should have said behavior of, not incivility from. I've been known to make desperate calls to my therapist over posts that weren't uncivil.
So I guess I'm sort of trying to say what Sunny said.
When I was in school, getting less than an A would send me careening into depression. But there was nothing wrong with teachers giving grades less than an A. My reactions were my own.
Am I getting it right, Sunny?
Posted by Dinah on May 4, 2005, at 20:26:42
In reply to Oops. I've been meaning to restate this since I, posted by Dinah on May 4, 2005, at 20:24:59
Does that mean next time I have to believe him when he says I can't *make* him mad?
Posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 20:38:10
In reply to Re: Who is code directed to? DAC? » gardenergirl, posted by henrietta on May 4, 2005, at 20:04:41
Posted by TofuEmmy on May 4, 2005, at 22:05:32
In reply to Re: Who is code directed to? DAC? » gardenergirl, posted by henrietta on May 4, 2005, at 20:04:41
You obviously don't know GG very well.
She has helped me more than you can possibly imagine, in her most wonderfully kind, heart-filled way. She is a BLESSING to her current patients and too all those who are in her future.
emmy
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on May 5, 2005, at 2:46:16
In reply to Re: Who is code directed to? DAC? » gardenergirl, posted by henrietta on May 4, 2005, at 20:04:41
Are you sure you should be allowed to post anything seen by others? Just curious.
Posted by henrietta on May 5, 2005, at 6:28:19
In reply to Re: Who is code directed to? DAC? » henrietta, posted by Gabbi-x-2 on May 5, 2005, at 2:46:16
I'm sure I ought not be allowed to post at all.
I'm going to try to figure out how to prevent it.
Posted by henrietta on May 5, 2005, at 6:32:16
In reply to Quite sure, thank you. (nm) » henrietta, posted by gardenergirl on May 4, 2005, at 20:38:10
Please accept my apology. I was awake much of the night regretting my remark. I do know you have many wonderful qualities and will be of great
benefit to your clients.
Posted by gardenergirl on May 5, 2005, at 8:54:29
In reply to Re: Regrets » gardenergirl, posted by henrietta on May 5, 2005, at 6:32:16
Posted by Gabbi-x-2 on May 5, 2005, at 14:23:10
In reply to Re: Regrets » gardenergirl, posted by henrietta on May 5, 2005, at 6:32:16
Please accept my apology too Henrietta. I sincerely am often impressed by your thoughts on things, but that comment baffled me, particulary as it was toward GG
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