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Posted by gardenergirl on September 18, 2004, at 23:34:46
In reply to Re: stuck in loop, posted by 64bowtie on September 18, 2004, at 15:35:17
Actually I was shooting for humorous comment, but perhaps that would have required me to sing the song versus post. And Babble isn't set up for that yet, thank Dog. And given the lyric just before the line I quoted, I was afraid of posting something uncivil...
:)
gg
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 19, 2004, at 15:18:35
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself, posted by Dr. Bob on September 18, 2004, at 17:14:38
> I also thought I'd group them together in a new area called Watch Yourself. As in watch yourself (how you do) over time...
Well, here it is:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/watch
Let me know what you think,
Bob
Posted by gardenergirl on September 22, 2004, at 22:40:04
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself, posted by Dr. Bob on September 19, 2004, at 15:18:35
I don't know exactly why, but when I see those words "Watch Yourself" in the link on each page, I feel like I am being warned against some unknown bad event. Like "watch out!" So the name is a bit weird for me. I suppose Monitor Yourself just doesn't have the same cache. I don't know what would be better or even if I would prefer it be changed at this point just because of my psyche, but just thought I'd mention it.
Thanks,
gg
Posted by Lonely on September 22, 2004, at 23:40:05
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself...name is odd for me, posted by gardenergirl on September 22, 2004, at 22:40:04
Y'know ... I had the same thoughts and feelings but a little stronger. My very, very first reaction is just like you said "watch out" and my immediate response to that is a cross between feeling threatened and insulted. I really don't care for the phrase at all. It does not give off any warmth in the emotional sense. In fact, I haven't even gone to the latest one because I'm put off, in part, by the title. I don't know what phrase Dr. Bob could use either but it should come across more as a help or aid in helping me understand myself. That at least smacks of compassion. Right now it's definitely a negative. Ugh!
> I don't know exactly why, but when I see those words "Watch Yourself" in the link on each page, I feel like I am being warned against some unknown bad event. Like "watch out!" So the name is a bit weird for me. I suppose Monitor Yourself just doesn't have the same cache. I don't know what would be better or even if I would prefer it be changed at this point just because of my psyche, but just thought I'd mention it.
> Thanks,
> gg
Posted by Dinah on September 23, 2004, at 10:11:16
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself...name is odd for me, posted by gardenergirl on September 22, 2004, at 22:40:04
I agree. I thought "watch yourself" was the standard parental warning to a child that they were heading onto thin ice, or would be in big trouble when they got home. Not that I ever remember *giving* it. But I think I remember *getting* it.
Posted by Catgirl on September 23, 2004, at 19:09:03
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself...name is odd for me, posted by gardenergirl on September 22, 2004, at 22:40:04
> I don't know exactly why, but when I see those words "Watch Yourself" in the link on each page, I feel like I am being warned against some unknown bad event. Like "watch out!" So the name is a bit weird for me. I suppose Monitor Yourself just doesn't have the same cache. I don't know what would be better or even if I would prefer it be changed at this point just because of my psyche, but just thought I'd mention it.
> Thanks,
> ggI agree with the negative conotation. "Watch Yourself" feels threatening.
Posted by gardenergirl on September 23, 2004, at 20:18:23
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself...name is odd for me, posted by Catgirl on September 23, 2004, at 19:09:03
And here I was thinking I was just making GG associations again. Which aren't loose, but can appear to be since my brain works in mysterious ways. :-)
Guess this one is more straightforward.
gg
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 24, 2004, at 0:15:00
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself...name is odd for me, posted by gardenergirl on September 23, 2004, at 20:18:23
Posted by Catgirl on September 24, 2004, at 20:27:07
In reply to Re: OK, back to the drawing board, better ideas? (nm), posted by Dr. Bob on September 24, 2004, at 0:15:00
Chart your progress?
Boring, but less threatening!
Posted by Lonely on September 24, 2004, at 20:58:20
In reply to Re: OK, back to the drawing board, better ideas?, posted by Catgirl on September 24, 2004, at 20:27:07
Hmmm, looking at a dictionary of synonyms online ... similiar words to "watch" in the sense in which it's being used could include:
Ascertain (Maybe too formal)
Check (This is almost as bad as "watch yourself"
Detect (I don't like it)
Determine
Discover (this carries more of the implied meaning, no?)
Find
Learn
SeeDiscover more about yourself?
Discover your progress?
See where you are now?
Learn more about yourself?Maybe another person can pick up the ball and run more with this!
> Chart your progress?
>
> Boring, but less threatening!
Posted by gardenergirl on September 24, 2004, at 22:53:51
In reply to Re: OK, back to the drawing board, better ideas? » Catgirl, posted by Lonely on September 24, 2004, at 20:58:20
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 27, 2004, at 8:37:03
In reply to Re: Watch Yourself...name is odd for me, posted by gardenergirl on September 22, 2004, at 22:40:04
> when I see those words "Watch Yourself" in the link on each page, I feel like I am being warned against some unknown bad event.
FYI, partly the idea was that mental illness can in fact lead to unknown bad events... Anyway, thanks for the suggestions so far, everyone, keep them coming!
Bob
Posted by Susan47 on September 27, 2004, at 8:45:11
In reply to Re: unknown bad events, posted by Dr. Bob on September 27, 2004, at 8:37:03
I like the Watch Yourself, it's attention-grabbing and after seeing it several times, reminds me of the importance of doing just that. Thanks.
Posted by Susan47 on September 27, 2004, at 8:46:33
In reply to Re: unknown bad events, posted by Susan47 on September 27, 2004, at 8:45:11
Posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 10:50:13
In reply to Babbletrac? Progress tracker? You View? (nm), posted by gardenergirl on September 24, 2004, at 22:53:51
And perhaps the Watch Yourself is a regional thing, but around here it really is a parental warning reserved for public occasions with private consequences to follow.
Posted by Lonely on September 27, 2004, at 11:29:11
In reply to Re: unknown bad events, posted by Dr. Bob on September 27, 2004, at 8:37:03
Yes, mental illness can lead to unknown bad events but I would prefer not to plant any triggers in that direction. Not that the title would cause such a thing, just another negativity for me. In another posting I mentioned a concept called "Appreciative Inquiry" which is sort've based on the Pygmallion effect - people respond to images other people have of them. In a sense, I think that using more neutral or pleasant terms/descriptors is a more positive approach.
> > when I see those words "Watch Yourself" in the link on each page, I feel like I am being warned against some unknown bad event.
>
> FYI, partly the idea was that mental illness can in fact lead to unknown bad events... Anyway, thanks for the suggestions so far, everyone, keep them coming!
>
> Bob
Posted by AuntieMel on September 27, 2004, at 16:57:59
In reply to I like Babbletrac, posted by Dinah on September 27, 2004, at 10:50:13
Posted by Susan47 on September 27, 2004, at 19:17:15
In reply to Re:Babbletrac - I like! (nm) » Dinah, posted by AuntieMel on September 27, 2004, at 16:57:59
Babbletrac is good. It's kind of cutesy but it's good. It has a nice rhythm to it.
Posted by Dr. Bob on September 29, 2004, at 2:46:24
In reply to Re:Babbletrac - I like!, posted by Susan47 on September 27, 2004, at 19:17:15
Posted by Susan47 on September 29, 2004, at 8:39:09
In reply to Re:Babbletrack with a k? (nm), posted by Dr. Bob on September 29, 2004, at 2:46:24
Posted by AuntieMel on September 29, 2004, at 10:20:02
In reply to Re:Babbletrack with a k? (nm), posted by Dr. Bob on September 29, 2004, at 2:46:24
Since it was gg's idea, maybe she should choose?
Posted by gardenergirl on September 29, 2004, at 11:37:26
In reply to Re:Either works for me, but » Dr. Bob, posted by AuntieMel on September 29, 2004, at 10:20:02
That's nice of you, Auntie Mel. I think either is fine. I suppose the "k" makes it look more complete.
It would be nice if others gave options or opinions... I feel a bit, eh I don't know. Have a fuzzy cold brain and words aren't coming quickly...
gg
Posted by Lonely on September 29, 2004, at 12:52:00
In reply to Re:Either works for me, but » AuntieMel, posted by gardenergirl on September 29, 2004, at 11:37:26
I could go with either one too. The "trac" is probably a little more "cutsie" than "track" which is a bit more scientific. It's kind've an apples or oranges type of thing.
The word "babble" has always slightly rubbed me the wrong way as there's the inference of insanity and insignificance. I think Dr. Bob said in the Administrative area (or someplace) that he meant no disrespect, though, so that's good.
> That's nice of you, Auntie Mel. I think either is fine. I suppose the "k" makes it look more complete.
>
> It would be nice if others gave options or opinions... I feel a bit, eh I don't know. Have a fuzzy cold brain and words aren't coming quickly...
>
> gg
Posted by Fi on October 1, 2004, at 17:12:33
In reply to Re: OK, back to the drawing board, better ideas? » Catgirl, posted by Lonely on September 24, 2004, at 20:58:20
Babbletrac is a neat name, and would make sense to many of us into "babbling". I'm just wonder if something else, maybe just as a subtitle, would help make it clearer to those who arent familiar with babble-isms.
It would need to be something which links with the idea of following how you are over time, but not with the assumption that you will always be getting better. Not that there wont be times when things do get better, but just there are also times when we arent.
I dont have a wonderful suggestion for that- might just be something like 'How are you doing?'
Fi
> Hmmm, looking at a dictionary of synonyms online ... similiar words to "watch" in the sense in which it's being used could include:
>
> Ascertain (Maybe too formal)
> Check (This is almost as bad as "watch yourself"
> Detect (I don't like it)
> Determine
> Discover (this carries more of the implied meaning, no?)
> Find
> Learn
> See
>
> Discover more about yourself?
> Discover your progress?
> See where you are now?
> Learn more about yourself?
>
> Maybe another person can pick up the ball and run more with this!
>
>
>
> > Chart your progress?
> >
> > Boring, but less threatening!
>
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 5, 2004, at 2:13:24
In reply to Re:Either works for me, but » gardenergirl, posted by Lonely on September 29, 2004, at 12:52:00
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