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Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 5:30:32

Hey guys,

is Tyrosine a really bad idea for someone deemed schizo-(affective)?

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 10:25:26

In reply to Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 5:30:32

> Hey guys,
>
> is Tyrosine a really bad idea for someone deemed schizo-(affective)?

It does the opposite of neuroleptics, but it's not very potent, so you probably won't have either desired or adverse effects. You can try and see if it does anything. If there is a lack of effect, you might want to try mucuna pruriens, a herb that contains L-dopa. I tried prescription-grade levodopa+benserazide, but it didn't help.

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 10:29:26

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 10:25:26

I suspect hypothyrioidism. That is why I want to take it. I am at an endocrinologist but I don't trust them. Got an appointment. I don't want to be put on medication when the issue could be fixed with Tyrosine. I have an inkling that it helps and of course traditional medicine doesn't acknowledge that...


 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 11:05:37

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 10:29:26

> I suspect hypothyrioidism. That is why I want to take it. I am at an endocrinologist but I don't trust them. Got an appointment. I don't want to be put on medication when the issue could be fixed with Tyrosine. I have an inkling that it helps and of course traditional medicine doesn't acknowledge that...
>

Why not try thyroid hormone just as a diagnostic test?

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 11:06:44

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 11:05:37

> > I suspect hypothyrioidism. That is why I want to take it. I am at an endocrinologist but I don't trust them. Got an appointment. I don't want to be put on medication when the issue could be fixed with Tyrosine. I have an inkling that it helps and of course traditional medicine doesn't acknowledge that...
> >
>
> Why not try thyroid hormone just as a diagnostic test?
>
> -undopaminergic
>

What about iodine supplements?

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 11:07:52

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 11:05:37

If it is not hard to get off of, I guess I could. I dont want to fall deeper into the mills of traditional medicine.

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 11:09:05

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 11:06:44

Im already on about 170 iodine. I take less selenium now and it got worse. However blood suggests that it was too much brfore.

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 12:02:38

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 11:09:05

Overthinking a bit here. First it needs to be confirmed wether or not I have a thyroid problem, right? Insurance pays for figuring that out so no harm no foul. I will find out some time soon.

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment undopaminergic

Posted by Jay2112 on January 16, 2022, at 18:09:18

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by undopaminergic on January 14, 2022, at 10:25:26

> > Hey guys,
> >
> > is Tyrosine a really bad idea for someone deemed schizo-(affective)?
>
> It does the opposite of neuroleptics, but it's not very potent, so you probably won't have either desired or adverse effects. You can try and see if it does anything. If there is a lack of effect, you might want to try mucuna pruriens, a herb that contains L-dopa. I tried prescription-grade levodopa+benserazide, but it didn't help.
>
> -undopaminergic
>

Hmmm..my pdoc and I have been discussing D4 specific agonists, and how they sorta beat out the agitation and dysphoria that comes from high D1-2 agonists.(For those looking for recreational and antidepressant use) Amphetamine binds strongly to D4, and so do most other stims. I hated Wellbutrin/bupropion, most dopamine agonists...but amphetamine is SOO good...I've been taking it daily since 2004, and it works like a charm, still! Got an extra dose per day to use if needed, and on bad days, they become good, often, thanks to the big A!

I am trying to discover an exhaustive list of D4 agonists. I work at a university, and have access to tons and tons of sources...but even google scholar comes up short. Of course, I am probably missing something...as I do too often..lol.

Jay

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment Jay2112

Posted by undopaminergic on January 17, 2022, at 7:27:43

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment undopaminergic, posted by Jay2112 on January 16, 2022, at 18:09:18

>
> Hmmm..my pdoc and I have been discussing D4 specific agonists, and how they sorta beat out the agitation and dysphoria that comes from high D1-2 agonists.
>

Dysphoria? You mean from tolerance or withdrawal?


> (For those looking for recreational and antidepressant use) Amphetamine binds strongly to D4, and so do most other stims.
>

I've never heard of that.

> I hated Wellbutrin/bupropion, most dopamine agonists...but amphetamine is SOO good...I've been taking it daily since 2004, and it works like a charm, still!
>

Maybe it is thanks to memantine that you don't get tolerance?

-undopaminergic

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by NKP on January 20, 2022, at 1:47:02

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by Lamdage22 on January 14, 2022, at 10:29:26

> I suspect hypothyrioidism. That is why I want to take it. I am at an endocrinologist but I don't trust them. Got an appointment. I don't want to be put on medication when the issue could be fixed with Tyrosine. I have an inkling that it helps and of course traditional medicine doesn't acknowledge that...

Do you know what your TSH level is?

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by Lamdage22 on January 20, 2022, at 2:19:53

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by NKP on January 20, 2022, at 1:47:02

TSH was 2,54 2,5 being the border where potential hypothyroidism begins. I had really hard stool. I think I had too much Iodine and Selenium. It can shut your thyroid down. Now a bit better. I am getting it checked out with an endocrinologist anyway

 

Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment

Posted by Lamdage22 on February 17, 2022, at 1:44:51

In reply to Re: Tyrosine with antipsychotic treatment, posted by Lamdage22 on January 20, 2022, at 2:19:53

All is well. My thyroid hormones are absolutely fine. No thyroid antibodies. Testosterone improved, too. I am eating more (healthy) fats. Low fat diet is a known testosterone killer.


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