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Posted by jay2112 on July 12, 2021, at 21:01:33
Hi Linkadge:
I was wondering what your dose of PEA is.how often do you dose it...can I ask where you get it from?
iHerb.com sells them for a bottle of sixty, at 600mg's, for about 22 dollars Canadian. Is there an extended release formula available? I am thinking of giving it a try.Thanks!
Jay
Posted by linkadge on July 13, 2021, at 6:48:43
In reply to Linkadge...Details of your PEA?, posted by jay2112 on July 12, 2021, at 21:01:33
Hey,
This is the product I got here:
Be careful that it is phenylethylamine (not phenylalanine). They have very close spelling. Although they are related, the later is an amino acid and the former is the trace amine.
As far as dose, I'm probably only taking 1-10mg. You have to be very careful. It can raise your BP. I would start low and go slow. I got an eyedropper and mixed ~50mg in it. Then I just start with a few drops. I notice that taking it sublingually seems to make it much more potent (perhaps bypassing some of the MAO-B inhibition).
I am also taking some herbs that (purportedly) inhibit MAO-B, so individual dosing may vary.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on July 13, 2021, at 6:50:30
In reply to Re: Linkadge...Details of your PEA?, posted by linkadge on July 13, 2021, at 6:48:43
Just to add. I definitely would NOT start with 600mg.
Linkadge
Posted by jay2112 on July 13, 2021, at 20:31:50
In reply to Re: Linkadge...Details of your PEA?, posted by linkadge on July 13, 2021, at 6:50:30
Hi Linkadge:
Thanks for the info! I mentioned micro dosing before, and that seems like the approach you are taking. Can I ask also about the licorice? Did you micro dose with that? Knock on wood, but I have never had high blood pressure, except for a time when I cranked my Vyvanse up to fast.I am thinking about micro dosing licorice, and adding Gotu Kola. Kinda personal, lol, but I want to use the GK for sexual dysfunction. I did a search on pubmed, and read the first-person research, as meta-analysis has some flaws. That method has some bias and statistical flaws.
So, if you don't mind elaborating, I'd really appreciate the info. Also, are you still on the cannabis? I use the high THC (about 20mg of the capsules) to help me sleep. Funny, but CBD really does nothing for me...even combination with THC, and CBD at high doses. I can't smoke it, as my lungs can't handle it. I have never smoked anything, and I just fairly recently was in the hospital for three weeks, with a collapsed lung plus pneumonia...yay! So, my respiratory system is very sensitive. I tried smoking and vaping cannabis, and I would break out into 10-15 minutes of very extreme choking and coughing fits.
Thanks kindly,
Jay
Posted by linkadge on July 13, 2021, at 21:45:21
In reply to Re: Linkadge...Details of your PEA? » linkadge, posted by jay2112 on July 13, 2021, at 20:31:50
The licorice I am using is organic licorice tea. I started with 2 bags a day but have since reduced this to one. I'm not sure about microdosing, but you might get some effect from less than this.
Yeah, I only have one brand of Gotu, but felt that it might have some action on dopamine (perhaps a MAO-B, or COMT inhibitor), but I have seen no research to corrobrate this.
I still use cannabis. I purchased the Ardent decarboxylator and make my own edibles. Right now, I am currently taking about 10mg of CBD and 5mg of THC a night. I do find that the CBD can reduce the harshness of the THC. I notice that I have less up/down effect and feel less rebound the next day. I occasionally vape (maybe once a week). I hold the vapour in my cheeks until it cools a bit. This seems to reduce some of the sting. If you are not taking methylfolate I would recommemnd this. Folic acid / methylfolate can enhance the effects of CB1 agonists like THC. See:
https://bioteach.ubc.ca/TeachingResources/Biochemistry/fakepapers/Cannabinoidreceptors.pdf
Linkadge
Posted by TriedEveryMedication on July 18, 2021, at 17:08:47
In reply to Re: Linkadge...Details of your PEA?, posted by linkadge on July 13, 2021, at 6:48:43
> Hey,
>
> This is the product I got here:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/Bulksupplements-Phenylethylamine-HCL-Powder-grams/dp/B00ENRRC1Q/
>
> Be careful that it is phenylethylamine (not phenylalanine). They have very close spelling. Although they are related, the later is an amino acid and the former is the trace amine.
>
> As far as dose, I'm probably only taking 1-10mg. You have to be very careful. It can raise your BP. I would start low and go slow. I got an eyedropper and mixed ~50mg in it. Then I just start with a few drops. I notice that taking it sublingually seems to make it much more potent (perhaps bypassing some of the MAO-B inhibition).
>
> I am also taking some herbs that (purportedly) inhibit MAO-B, so individual dosing may vary.
>
> LinkadgeHello,
Dumb question - would taking adderall or dexedrine have the same effect as taking phenylethylamine, since they're chemically related?
Posted by undopaminergic on July 19, 2021, at 7:30:05
In reply to Re: Linkadge...Details of your PEA? » linkadge, posted by TriedEveryMedication on July 18, 2021, at 17:08:47
> > Hey,
> >
> > This is the product I got here:
> >
> > https://www.amazon.com/Bulksupplements-Phenylethylamine-HCL-Powder-grams/dp/B00ENRRC1Q/
> >
> > Be careful that it is phenylethylamine (not phenylalanine). They have very close spelling. Although they are related, the later is an amino acid and the former is the trace amine.
> >
> > As far as dose, I'm probably only taking 1-10mg. You have to be very careful. It can raise your BP. I would start low and go slow. I got an eyedropper and mixed ~50mg in it. Then I just start with a few drops. I notice that taking it sublingually seems to make it much more potent (perhaps bypassing some of the MAO-B inhibition).
> >
> > I am also taking some herbs that (purportedly) inhibit MAO-B, so individual dosing may vary.
> >
> > Linkadge
>
> Hello,
>
> Dumb question - would taking adderall or dexedrine have the same effect as taking phenylethylamine, since they're chemically related?
>In part, yes, as their mechanisms of action are largely the same.
-undopaminergic
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