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Posted by bleauberry on February 6, 2019, at 14:40:53
http://advancedpsychcare.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/braverman.test.pdf
I stumbled onto this test. Through simple questions it is designed to determine if you have a deficiency in a neurotransmitter, and if so, whether it is mild, moderate, or major, and provides ways to correct it.
Just answer each question T of F. Add up the number of T's for each category.
There is a part A for dopamine, acetylcholine, gaba, and serotonin.
There is a part B for them also.You will end up subtracting your total B scores from the A scores to find out what your deficiency is, or perhaps, an excess instead.
And then the difference is ranked in three ways - mild, moderate, major.
And then the author has a variety of suggestions for supplements to boost the particular neurotransmitter, including doses, depending on whether you are mild, moderate, or major.
I doubt this is super accurate but I think it gives a good bird's eye view.
If nothing else it is an interesting exercise.
My results:
Dopamine Deficient MAJOR
Acetylcholine Deficient Moderate
GABA Deficient Moderate
Serotonin Deficient ModerateConsidering that my mold toxicity is blocking all of those, it actually seems pretty accurate. Especially the dopamine part of it. I mean, I respond robustly to Ritalin, which covers the dopamine and serotonin part.
I thought my GABA deficiency would be worse than it is.
There are reasonable suggestions for supplements to help correct things and I am going to take a look at some of those. There are a few I already take. I suspect if I were not already on as many supplements as I am, I would probably have scored super badly on all four of them.
Posted by Radish on February 6, 2019, at 20:50:25
In reply to Written Test for Neurotransmitters, posted by bleauberry on February 6, 2019, at 14:40:53
Hmm looks cool. I couldnt find any good reliable information on it anywhere online though so not sure what to make of it.. Im probably deficient in all four. Im hesitant to try supplements because the several Ive tried never produced a response in me. Same for pharmaceuticals though so far.
Posted by bleauberry on February 7, 2019, at 5:47:07
In reply to Re: Written Test for Neurotransmitters, posted by Radish on February 6, 2019, at 20:50:25
I would just add that if you have experimented with some supplements and meds to no effect, that to me is a pretty good clue there is something profound going on in the body that has not yet been recognized or addressed.
Like for example I immediately thought of a mold thing, a lyme thing, a heavy metal thing, some sort of insult that has dramatically upset the way the neurochemicals are produced, the way they act, and their actual integrity or lack thereof.
> Hmm looks cool. I couldnt find any good reliable information on it anywhere online though so not sure what to make of it.. Im probably deficient in all four. Im hesitant to try supplements because the several Ive tried never produced a response in me. Same for pharmaceuticals though so far.
Posted by SLS on February 7, 2019, at 8:42:28
In reply to Re: Written Test for Neurotransmitters, posted by bleauberry on February 7, 2019, at 5:47:07
Non-response to multiple treatments for a mental illness would be a good reason to investigate other physiological causes that may exist. However, non-response does not eliminate mental illness as a diagnosis. Historically, the introduction of a new antidepressant has treated effectively a percentage of people who failed to respond to all others.
One strategy might be to go to your primary physician and tell them that you have been diagnosed as having a mental illness and that you would like for them to look for other reasons for your symptoms.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on February 7, 2019, at 10:59:16
In reply to Written Test for Neurotransmitters, posted by bleauberry on February 6, 2019, at 14:40:53
> http://advancedpsychcare.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/braverman.test.pdf
This is pretty amazing.
I don't know how valid the results of the test are, or if it provides guidance in selecting a treatment, but I think that Braverman demonstrates knowledge and insight. Maybe the test does work. I would be interested to see it studied scientifically.
- Scott
Posted by bleauberry on February 10, 2019, at 13:24:19
In reply to Re: Written Test for Neurotransmitters » bleauberry, posted by SLS on February 7, 2019, at 10:59:16
SLS I agree, I have no idea the accuracy. But for that matter, there really isn't much accuracy with anything you and I deal with.
But the test was accurate with me. The descriptions were spot on, when applied to my own life.
I started taking sublingual GABA supplements which have 100mg GABA and 25mg Tyrosine in them - to slightly address my supposed moderately low GABA and majorly low dopamine. And 25mg 5htp twice a day - super low - just to make sure there is more serotonin than my natural state. Not getting a therapeutic effect but that wasn't my purpose. I just wanted to be sure the areas I know are weak have some support under them.
I've always said it isn't as easy as low this, or low that. And I still believe that. The human body is more complex than a supercomputer the size of the world. It just aint as easy as we frame it.
> > http://advancedpsychcare.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/braverman.test.pdf
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> This is pretty amazing.
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> I don't know how valid the results of the test are, or if it provides guidance in selecting a treatment, but I think that Braverman demonstrates knowledge and insight. Maybe the test does work. I would be interested to see it studied scientifically.
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> - Scott
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