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Posted by bleauberry on August 23, 2017, at 8:48:20
It's no surprise that many psychiatric patients are not satisfied with their treatment history or their current treatments.
So why would a patient continue taking a medicine that doesn't really work like they want it to?
Why would that patient keep trying new drugs when they keep failing over and over?
Why would a patient take a drug with bad side effects even though it isn't helping a whole lot?
Why would patients stay with doctors who have made little progress despite thousands of dollars spent and many years of trying?
Why do patients stay with meds that have clearly not done the job?
Why are patients still trying to treat the same thing they were treating 10 years ago and there is hardly any progress in all that time?
I'll tell you why.
Because they don't know what else to do....
I just want to make a bold statement that, in addition to psychiatry, there is A LOT you can do to make your symptoms go away. Most of it is cheap and healthy, no hocus-pocus, and within the category of "a lot you can do" there are just a few of those things that can make a massive change in your condition. In other words, you don't need to do a lot. You just need to do the right things.
I also want people to know that when they read my posts, they are actually reading only bits of my own personal experience, but rather, huge chunks of what a couple M.D.s. have taught - the ones who saved me from resistant depression - from a half dozen books, hundreds upon hundreds of clinical trials of meds and herbs, blogs, 2 Nurse Practitioners licensed in psychiatry and also Lyme experts, I bring you mostly expert experiences from the field.
My own opinions are mixed in. But the bulk of what I bring here is documented by people of much higher authority than you or me, and much better track record in treating depression than most psychiatrists are.
The doctors who brought me to remission did it in months, not years, and they did it without psych meds, and they do it routinely everyday with failed patients from other doctors. I think it is extremely important for you, the patient, to be aware that out there in the world, out there beyond psychiatry, there are actually M.D.s and D.O.s and N.P.s who are curing people like you and me and every other psychobabble who thought it would never end, and all of them I am aware of are not psychiatrists and not their specialty.
I mean, when you've had a total of 12 of the best psychiatrists within 100 mile radius, and you've failed a backpack of medicines, failed ECT, failed counseling, failed everything they did to you, and you've spend nearly $100,000 over a period of 20 years or so, how does that end? Where does that go? How can it possibly change?
You just need to know that plain Jane doctors out there are doing the job. But not just any doctors. Mostly LLMDs and their related cohorts.
Posted by linkadge on August 23, 2017, at 10:46:34
In reply to Why Do We Take Meds That Hardly Work?, posted by bleauberry on August 23, 2017, at 8:48:20
Individuals must decide whether or not a medication is working.
To suggest that meds hardly work, is not exactly an accurate statement. Again, depression is not a single disease.
By their very nature, support boards such as this tend to retain people for whom medications aren't working or aren't fully working.
Of course people should investigate all options.
I am personally doing fairly well (lithium, omega-3, folic acid, niacin, nortriptyline and Effexor, coffee).
Lithium seemed to be the turning point, yet I do not do well on lithium monotherapy, nor doses above 300mg.
Linkadge
Posted by beckett2 on August 24, 2017, at 14:25:30
In reply to Why Do We Take Meds That Hardly Work?, posted by bleauberry on August 23, 2017, at 8:48:20
Have you checked out this post? Sounds interesting. http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20160521/msgs/1094383.html
Posted by Lamdage22 on August 26, 2017, at 6:07:48
In reply to Why Do We Take Meds That Hardly Work?, posted by bleauberry on August 23, 2017, at 8:48:20
I am not a drugs friend either bleuberry. Personally i take them because i cant just not take them. They need to be tapered carefully.
Posted by phidippus on October 7, 2017, at 16:54:38
In reply to Why Do We Take Meds That Hardly Work?, posted by bleauberry on August 23, 2017, at 8:48:20
So. Depression is caused by microbes and toxins?
Not grief, not loss and not by bad things happening to you?
Eric
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