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Re: Lou's teaching career

Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 7, 2016, at 13:33:41

In reply to Re: Lou's teaching career, posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 13:10:17

Wow! i've always wanted to know more about Lou, i've had many pictures in my mind that he was younger and had a tramatic event that happened to him that makes him urge jews and death from medication

going that far back in time.....that's amazing, but it's like when Lou speaks, i try to picture in my mind how he would say that through speaking, and it just confused me with his posting style, cuzz not alot of people talk in the style Lou talks in

i hope he finds what he's looking for, but just his posts are so erratic, repeatly over again, i don't think he see's socially how other people are percieve it

 

Re: Lou's teaching career

Posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 14:44:39

In reply to Re: Lou's teaching career, posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 13:10:17

Wow Tabithata,

That's some intense investigative work! Are you for hire as a PI? :)

I think this is all very 'sad'.

Lou, ultimately what you are doing here is not effective. It is just sad.

Lou, in life, you only get what you give. If you want respect, you need to give others respect.

Linkadge


 

Re: Moving to Longecity.org » linkadge

Posted by coffeeberry on September 7, 2016, at 14:56:52

In reply to Moving to Longecity.org, posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 9:25:33

Linkadge,

I just wanted to say that if you do leave Psycho-Babble, I will miss reading your posts here. I'm not saying that leaving this site is necessarily a bad decision. In fact, I've limited the amount of posting that I've been doing here myself lately, and I'll probably continue to post on a basis that's rather limited going forward. But what I wanted to say is that you seem to have a lot of good ideas (at least judging from what you write here), and I'd definitely like to see you continue to share your ideas on Longecity and/or other sites, even if you don't continue to do so here on Psycho-Babble.

cb (the former Tomatheus/shadowtom2)

 

Re: Moving to Longecity.org

Posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 15:13:49

In reply to Re: Moving to Longecity.org » linkadge, posted by coffeeberry on September 7, 2016, at 14:56:52

Thanks,

I've been here since the early 2000's (ish).

Of course I enjoy the babble community, but not without some basic guidelines for posting.

This page should be about support for people with mental illness.

Other ideas (no matter how bizarre) have a place, but it just shouldn't be here. It's the wild west.

Like I said, I'll stick around for another month to see if anyone has any alternative ideas.

Linakdge


 

Re: more about Lou

Posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 15:56:45

In reply to Re: Lou's teaching career, posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 14:44:39

> That's some intense investigative work! Are you for hire as a PI? :)
>
> I think this is all very 'sad'.

It's all public information that I was able to discover based on things he posts here. I didn't even have to cross any paywalls.

Lou seems to have a very comfortable life despite his troubles in the 1970's. He is 73, lives in West Chester OH which is a nice suburb of Cincinnati, has owned at least one house in OH before his current residence. He has been married 27 years to a woman who appears to be completely normal. Prior to that, he had a 17 year marriage to another woman who also appears to be normal.

Here he was in 2003, pretending to be his wife Elsa, talking about an upcoming European vacation, which indicates they had a nice lifestyle, even while he was blocked from the site.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20031008/msgs/267191.html

His wife, who is 68, recently retired, and they took a beach vacation. At the end of this post there's a link to a picture of the two of them.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20151112/msgs/1091806.html

He has a large extended family in the Cincinnati area. As he often tells us, he is of Jewish descent. Lou's great grandfather Hirsch Pilderwasser came to the U.S. from Russia in 1891. In 1928, Hirsch's son Charles (Lou's grandfather) opened a Jewish deli "Pilder's Deli". Family legend says he shortened his name frpm Pilderwasser to Pilder to better fit on the sign. That deli & Kosher meat store was a Cincinnati landmark and remained in the family into the 1990's. It appears Lou's cousin was the last owner, but perhaps Lou had some stake in it as well.

Some odds and ends: several of his relatives have advanced degrees. One was active in the civil rights movement. Lou and his wife regularly donate to a local food bank. Lou is not active on social media. His twitter and Google+ accounts are mere placeholders. He has no obvious facebook presence.

It would be interesting to know more about what else Lou has been up to in the years he has plagued this site, and the years prior. It would also be interesting to know how he has managed to remain married so long, and what his relations with his other family members are like.

This thread gives a hint of what he's been up to lately, besides trolling this site. He's recently filed against his condo association. He is accusing them of discrimination against Jews for displaying holiday wreaths. No surprise there.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20151112/msgs/1091766.html


 

Re: more about Lou » Tabitha

Posted by SLS on September 7, 2016, at 16:05:30

In reply to Re: more about Lou, posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 15:56:45

Thank you for your diligence.


- Scott

 

Longecity may be a good option, I post there

Posted by AlexCanada on September 7, 2016, at 16:20:47

In reply to Moving to Longecity.org, posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 9:25:33


It may not have the most postings on pharma meds but there is tremendous valuable research on there and very knowledgable posters.

Lot of alternative treatments and new medications for depression, anxiety and countless modern illnesses.

It is also a forum that cannot be hijacked. Trolls and problematic posters do get banned.

I have used this forum from time to time over the past few years and the insight I have uncovered from there has been extremely beneficial towards my health.

A few people have attitude but overall the place is fine.

> Hi all,
>
> I'm giving psychobabble one more month then I'm moving to Longecity.org.
>
> For those who stay, enjoy your time with Lou.
>
> For others who join Longecity.org, I hope to have more direct & fruitful conversation.
>
>
> Linkadge
>
>
>
>
>

 

Re: Longecity may be a good option, I post there

Posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 17:12:43

In reply to Longecity may be a good option, I post there, posted by AlexCanada on September 7, 2016, at 16:20:47

Hmm. Looking into Longecity, I didn't realize there was a membership fee.

Hmm.

What other alternatives are there?

Linkadge

 

Re: teaching career » rjlockhart37

Posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 20:12:16

In reply to Re: Lou's teaching career, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 7, 2016, at 13:33:41

> Wow! i've always wanted to know more about Lou, i've had many pictures in my mind that he was younger and had a tramatic event that happened to him that makes him urge jews and death from medication

Yeah, decent people tend to think something awful must have happened to make someone into a not-so-decent person. I used to wonder if he was trapped alone at home due to his illness, possibly institutionalized or even paraplegic. But all available evidence shows him to be a normal functioning person except for being a huge anti-semitism-obsessed nuisance.

>
> going that far back in time.....that's amazing, but it's like when Lou speaks, i try to picture in my mind how he would say that through speaking, and it just confused me with his posting style, cuzz not alot of people talk in the style Lou talks in

It's like southern preacher crossed with serial killer or something. I doubt if he talks quite that oddly in person. If he did, I think he'd be in a psych hospital.

>
> i hope he finds what he's looking for, but just his posts are so erratic, repeatly over again, i don't think he see's socially how other people are percieve it
>

He certainly acts like he's immune to social feedback. Others have suggested he knows what's happening but he enjoys creating disruption.

 

Re: teaching career

Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 7, 2016, at 21:14:01

In reply to Re: teaching career » rjlockhart37, posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 20:12:16

thank you for doing that research, that was very insight to bring evidence in the light

 

Re: teaching career

Posted by rjlockhart37 on September 7, 2016, at 21:25:22

In reply to Re: teaching career, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 7, 2016, at 21:14:01

with that, he does openly defile people in their posts, and does not stop, he doenst follow authority of the site.....and bizarre behavior in repeated responses, very symbolical-metaphor examples....frequently using the book of life, some scriptures, saying he's knows the tree of life.....

And accuses people all the time of defaming him.....and told a poster, to resign from babble, you can't resign from babble.....this is an open webpage for anyone....

but anyways, thank you for doing that, that's very interesting history research

 

Re: teaching career » rjlockhart37

Posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 22:57:19

In reply to Re: teaching career, posted by rjlockhart37 on September 7, 2016, at 21:25:22

> with that, he does openly defile people in their posts, and does not stop, he doenst follow authority of the site.....and bizarre behavior in repeated responses, very symbolical-metaphor examples....frequently using the book of life, some scriptures, saying he's knows the tree of life.....

It's bizarre, right? For a while he was weaving in song lyrics as well.

>
> but anyways, thank you for doing that, that's very interesting history research
>
>

I'm glad you enjoyed the result. It was a fun little research project. Like putting together a puzzle.

 

Re: teaching career

Posted by Brot on September 8, 2016, at 15:01:56

In reply to Re: teaching career » rjlockhart37, posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 22:57:19

im starting to get the impression lou isnt metally ill at all. posting on this board the way he does is just a project with the desired result of suing ppl over religious discrimination and get money to make a living, probably dr bob as the main target. in my opinion hes just luring people here to make antisemitic comments. he invented his "jewish religious mind trick to overcome all kinds of mental illnesses" just to provoke antisemitic statements/criticism . he wants to be discriminated so hes able to sue ppl
maybe thats how hes making a living...

 

Lou's response-insults to Jews and Christians » Brot

Posted by Lou Pilder on September 8, 2016, at 16:21:09

In reply to Re: teaching career, posted by Brot on September 8, 2016, at 15:01:56

> im starting to get the impression lou isnt metally ill at all. posting on this board the way he does is just a project with the desired result of suing ppl over religious discrimination and get money to make a living, probably dr bob as the main target. in my opinion hes just luring people here to make antisemitic comments. he invented his "jewish religious mind trick to overcome all kinds of mental illnesses" just to provoke antisemitic statements/criticism . he wants to be discriminated so hes able to sue ppl
> maybe thats how hes making a living...
>
> Friends,
Be not deceived. Mr. Hsiung allows the accusations against me here that could decrease the respect and regard of myself and keep readers from understanding the truth.
This is nothing new and in Christendom this Jesus of Nazareth had the same said about him. They said he was mashoogah and received power from the devil and healed people by the power of the devil or Beelzabub. (sp?).
His ministry was derided so that people ignored his warning to repent for the Kingdom of God was at hand. And many went away from hearing him as they accepted the slander against him. So this tactic promulgated here against me is nothing new. It is an old tactic resurrected here to be seen as supportive by Mr. Hsiung.
The poster calls the work that I am here for a Jewish religious mind trick. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew. But it could also mean to slander the Jewish perspective that God can heal. By the poster here calling the healing from the God that the Jews give service and worship to a "trick", the poster puts down Judaism which is anti-Judaism and that it could then be anti-Semitism all allowed by Mr. Hsiung that can defame the Jews.
The problem that this poster may be confronted with is that this Jesus of Nazareth was speaking from a Jewish perspective and was himself a Rabbi. So the "Jewish mind trick" could also be a Christian mind trick that insults Christendom people as well as Jews.
Lou

 

Re: more about Lou » Tabitha

Posted by Chris O on September 8, 2016, at 16:29:41

In reply to Re: more about Lou, posted by Tabitha on September 7, 2016, at 15:56:45

That was fascinating, Tabitha. This biographical information about Lou seems to indicate a higher degree of functionality than his interactive style on psycho-babble. I never understood why Lou didn't interact with people in a more straightforward manner rather than his stilted--I don't know what to call it--Socratic questioning style? However well-researched your information is, I think there is something more to Lou's personality picture (schizo-affective axis, possibly?) than is revealed in his media/social media biography. Thanks for doing that, Tabitha.

Chris

 

Re: more about Lou » Chris O

Posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 17:31:09

In reply to Re: more about Lou » Tabitha, posted by Chris O on September 8, 2016, at 16:29:41

> That was fascinating, Tabitha. This biographical information about Lou seems to indicate a higher degree of functionality than his interactive style on psycho-babble. I never understood why Lou didn't interact with people in a more straightforward manner rather than his stilted--I don't know what to call it--Socratic questioning style? However well-researched your information is, I think there is something more to Lou's personality picture (schizo-affective axis, possibly?) than is revealed in his media/social media biography. Thanks for doing that, Tabitha.
>
> Chris

Thank you. I agree, there must be some mental illness or perhaps brain injury going on. I'd guess that in person he's somewhere on the oddball spectrum, perhaps cut off from a lot of family members.

Besides what I found, a babbler here once reported trading emails with him where he talked about normal things, so it's clear he's not always the same character as in his posts. Maybe we're just unlucky that he dumps his worst aspects here.

 

Re: more about Lou » Tabitha

Posted by Chris O on September 8, 2016, at 17:39:43

In reply to Re: more about Lou » Chris O, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 17:31:09

Interesting. Thanks for doing that.

I certainly wouldn't judge the guy on the basis of being cut off from family members though. Maybe (mostly likely, in my opinion) Lou's family are the ones who contributed to/caused whatever personality disorder he is struggling with. I know I like to stay away from my family as much as possible, and it seems to have a positive affect on my personality, however dysfunctional I am even without them being around!

Cheers!

Chris

 

Longecity is free » linkadge

Posted by AlexCanada on September 8, 2016, at 23:20:14

In reply to Re: Longecity may be a good option, I post there, posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 17:12:43

> Hmm. Looking into Longecity, I didn't realize there was a membership fee.
>
> Hmm.
>
> What other alternatives are there?
>
> Linkadge

Longecity is free. You don't have to donate anything. That's just optional. I never paid a cent to join.

 

Re: Longecity is free

Posted by linkadge on September 9, 2016, at 12:15:47

In reply to Longecity is free » linkadge, posted by AlexCanada on September 8, 2016, at 23:20:14

Thx

 

Lou's response-the terrorist's food » Tabitha

Posted by Lou Pilder on September 9, 2016, at 12:17:13

In reply to Re: more about Lou » Chris O, posted by Tabitha on September 8, 2016, at 17:31:09

> > That was fascinating, Tabitha. This biographical information about Lou seems to indicate a higher degree of functionality than his interactive style on psycho-babble. I never understood why Lou didn't interact with people in a more straightforward manner rather than his stilted--I don't know what to call it--Socratic questioning style? However well-researched your information is, I think there is something more to Lou's personality picture (schizo-affective axis, possibly?) than is revealed in his media/social media biography. Thanks for doing that, Tabitha.
> >
> > Chris
>
> Thank you. I agree, there must be some mental illness or perhaps brain injury going on. I'd guess that in person he's somewhere on the oddball spectrum, perhaps cut off from a lot of family members.
>
> Besides what I found, a babbler here once reported trading emails with him where he talked about normal things, so it's clear he's not always the same character as in his posts. Maybe we're just unlucky that he dumps his worst aspects here.
>
Friends,
Be not deceived. Tabitha is posting what could depict me as a brain-injured person. This is putting me in a false light and defamation per se.
Hsiung allows Tabitha to post such hate here all along with anti-Semitic propaganda that could seriously mislead you to hate Jews. This is how anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community. It is one pathway that has been used for centuries to defame the Jewish member in a community as being allowed by the leaders to be seen as supportive to that community. This channel of hate has been used to stigmatize the Jewish person in a community to have others shun the victim of the hate. Here, Hsiung allows it so readers could think that he validates the hate. And that is a powerful influence on our young people to adopt the thinking of Mr. Hsiung. This could be great fodder for hate groups and terrorists.
Lou

 

Re: more about Lou » Chris O

Posted by SLS on September 12, 2016, at 8:14:42

In reply to Re: more about Lou » Tabitha, posted by Chris O on September 8, 2016, at 16:29:41

> That was fascinating, Tabitha. This biographical information about Lou seems to indicate a higher degree of functionality than his interactive style on psycho-babble. I never understood why Lou didn't interact with people in a more straightforward manner rather than his stilted--I don't know what to call it--Socratic questioning style? However well-researched your information is, I think there is something more to Lou's personality picture (schizo-affective axis, possibly?) than is revealed in his media/social media biography. Thanks for doing that, Tabitha.
>
> Chris

I agree.

Lou Pilder is a troll.

If memory serves me, Lou Pilder has taken both lithium and desipramine according to his early posts. If you will notice, his most recent posts are more lucid, focused, and directed. His language is more organized. This is either due to an improvement in any mental illness he may have or the result of more scathing and organized challenges by the community. He has, until recently, been ignored more than in years past. He will try anything to remain relevant. Like any other troll, he will try to provoke other posters into reacting to what he writes.

Don't feed the troll.

Ignore him.

Refrain from talking directly to him.

Try not to refer to him or mention him by name in your messages.

Try to direct any comments about Lou Pilder to a single thread dedicated to addressing issues regarding his presence and behavior on Psycho-Babble.

http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20160819/msgs/1091960.html

If you feel compelled to respond to one of his posts, it is crucial to remove his name from the subject line, i.e. "Lou's response". It would be better to rewrite the whole subject line, perhaps return it to the original wording. This is a nuisance, but it prevents Psycho-Babble from looking like a playground for Lou Pilder as a troll. Please don't let him monopolize the board by allowing every post to contain his name and remove relevant subject lines.

This might help:

https://www.searchenginejournal.com/10-ways-destroy-online-commenting-troll/84427/

Thank you.

:-)


- Scott

 

Time for LESS about Lou - Time for MORE support (nm)

Posted by SLS on September 12, 2016, at 8:20:07

In reply to Re: more about Lou » Chris O, posted by SLS on September 12, 2016, at 8:14:42

 

Re: more about Lou » SLS

Posted by Chris O on September 12, 2016, at 9:36:32

In reply to Re: more about Lou » Chris O, posted by SLS on September 12, 2016, at 8:14:42

Got it. Thanks, Scott!

Chris

 

Re: Moving to Longecity.org

Posted by TriedEveryMedication on October 2, 2016, at 20:25:33

In reply to Moving to Longecity.org, posted by linkadge on September 7, 2016, at 9:25:33

> Hi all,
>
> I'm giving psychobabble one more month then I'm moving to Longecity.org.
>
> For those who stay, enjoy your time with Lou.
>
> For others who join Longecity.org, I hope to have more direct & fruitful conversation.
>
>
> Linkadge
>
>

I've spent some time on longecity. I can't take that place seriously. Dabblers in Psycho-Cosmetology, flitting from one "stack" to another with no rigor. I also suspect half the posters there are shills selling this or that nootropic who make bogus claims ("aniracetam made me a genius and now I woo supermodels")

And the group buys for phase I pharmaceuticals! I fell into this trap - I bought some "NSI-189" from someone there. Who knows if it was actually NSI-189. (If it was, I would take every penny in my piggybank and short sell NeuralStem... completely worthless). This summer people put up 500 bucks each for

Some other questionable shiznit going down on the Brain Health forum... Insulin injections, chemo drugs, and pig brain material injections all in the quest for some extra edge. Someone claimed they lost their hearing by dripping Rapastinel (ketamine derivative in phase II) in their ear because they didn't want to inject it. It's all one big hot mess there. Mr. Pilder would have a field day there since some of the stuff people are doing there is actually dangerous.

Examples:
"Results of my 1.5 years of injecting exogenous GDF11 "
"How I ruined myself by starting an Uridine stack"
"Piracetam ruined my life - moclobemide is the answer " - WHAT?

How about creating a dr-bob (or psychobabble) subreddit? It's easy. I can do this if people would use it. Multiple people can be moderators and they have nice mod tools.

 

Re: Moving to Longecity.org » TriedEveryMedication

Posted by Tabitha on October 3, 2016, at 1:08:13

In reply to Re: Moving to Longecity.org, posted by TriedEveryMedication on October 2, 2016, at 20:25:33


> I've spent some time on longecity. I can't take that place seriously. Dabblers in Psycho-Cosmetology, flitting from one "stack" to another with no rigor. I also suspect half the posters there are shills selling this or that nootropic who make bogus claims ("aniracetam made me a genius and now I woo supermodels")

Thanks for the recap. What a mess.

>
> How about creating a dr-bob (or psychobabble) subreddit? It's easy. I can do this if people would use it. Multiple people can be moderators and they have nice mod tools.
>

Yes, I think a sub-reddit would be a good option. I like the page layouts in general. I checked into existing groups r/depression, didn't relate to it at all, and r/depressionregimens (?) but still wasn't quite what I'm looking for.


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