Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 1091661

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Buspirone breakthrough?

Posted by linkadge on September 2, 2016, at 15:44:44

Hey all,

Buspar is an interesting drug. It is the only available 5-ht1a agonist.

However, buspar has a metabolite (1-pp) that significantly detracts from the effectiveness of buspar (and can add a number of cardiac / activation side effects).

Buspar is metabolised extensively by cyp3a4 and so I wondered what effect a cyp3a4 inhibitor might have on the ratio of buspar to it's metabolite 1-pp.

I think it I may have found an answer:

According to:

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/papers/10068153

"The mean ratio of the AUC of the piperazine metabolite to that of buspirone was decreased 34-fold (P<0.05) by itraconazole"

Itraconazole is a cyp3a4 inhibitor (like grapefruit juice). Taking itraconazole meant much higher levels of buspar (good) to 1-pp (bad).

It's not a stretch to suggest that taking grapefruit juice *may* make buspar work more effectively (at a lower dose) with fewer side effects.

Linkadge


 

Re: Buspirone breakthrough?

Posted by SLS on September 2, 2016, at 19:09:54

In reply to Buspirone breakthrough?, posted by linkadge on September 2, 2016, at 15:44:44

> Hey all,
>
> Buspar is an interesting drug. It is the only available 5-ht1a agonist.

What about vortioxetine (Trintellix)?


- Scott

 

Re: Buspirone breakthrough?

Posted by linkadge on September 3, 2016, at 9:38:41

In reply to Re: Buspirone breakthrough?, posted by SLS on September 2, 2016, at 19:09:54

>What about vortioxetine (Trintellix)?

vortioxetine is also a reuptake inhibitor. I guess what I mean is that buspar is the most selective 5-h1a agonist we have.

Trazodone and its metabolites also have 5-ht1a agonist actions, but again, some reuptake inhibition and receptor antagonism.

Linkadge

 

Re: Buspirone breakthrough?

Posted by jonhed on September 4, 2016, at 5:47:29

In reply to Re: Buspirone breakthrough?, posted by linkadge on September 3, 2016, at 9:38:41

I had the chance to start with brintellix when it was in phase 3 but was to paranoid to start it.

Have someone had success with it?

Cause i am willing to try it together with my current regimen: Memantine, methadone and clonazepam.


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