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Posted by PeterMartin on July 2, 2016, at 3:12:51
Newly discovered gut bacteria eats/needs GABA to survive influencing mood. Pretty interesting....
Posted by SLS on July 2, 2016, at 6:09:01
In reply to Scientists discover gut bacteria that eats GABA, posted by PeterMartin on July 2, 2016, at 3:12:51
> Newly discovered gut bacteria eats/needs GABA to survive influencing mood. Pretty interesting....
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> http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/scientists-discover-gut-bacteria-that-influences-mood-by-eating-brain-chemical/
>I don't get it.
I was under the impression that GABA was prevented from entering the brain directly from the blood stream. GABA does not easily cross the blood-brain barrier (BBB)
I would like to see how reduced GABA in the gut yields reduced GABA in the brain.
- Scott
Posted by linkadge on July 2, 2016, at 8:29:25
In reply to Re: Scientists discover gut bacteria that eats GABA, posted by SLS on July 2, 2016, at 6:09:01
Hi SLS,
I was going to .say the same thing. While I think there is a growing link between gut bacteria and mood, I don't see how bacteria in the gut eating gaba would influence brain levels of gaba.
I was under the impression that most brain gaba was synthesized from glutamine --> glutamate --> gaba.
Linkadge
Posted by Jeroen on July 3, 2016, at 4:42:24
In reply to Re: Scientists discover gut bacteria that eats GABA, posted by linkadge on July 2, 2016, at 8:29:25
i take a pro biotic for a few months now
it releaves some symptoms of depression
Posted by Ruuudy on July 7, 2016, at 18:35:08
In reply to i take a pro biotic for a few months now, posted by Jeroen on July 3, 2016, at 4:42:24
> i take a pro biotic for a few months now
> it releaves some symptoms of depression
I have a horrific diet that probably doesn't help any of my mental issues,,, but the one "positive" thing I do eat/drink are the various Kefir probiotic yogurts as my breakfast on many days.
One thing, I think it helps is it gets my metabolism going for the day; I hardly ever eat a sit-down breakfast meal.
Another thing,,, I seriously believe the probiotic ingredient does the body some good by helping eat up all that nasty sludge leftover in my stomach from last night's pizza!!!Rudy
Posted by Horse on July 17, 2016, at 17:19:55
In reply to Scientists discover gut bacteria that eats GABA, posted by PeterMartin on July 2, 2016, at 3:12:51
I didn't read the hyperlinks within the article itself, but my first thought is there must be a link between the vagus nerve and these recent findings about gut bacteria, so I found this during a cursory search of Gaba + Vagus Nerve.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3179073/
I think the relationship is complicated and not completely understood, and I do not follow the science involoved...but could the gaba effect not be directly centered in the brain? Also, I do not know if and how gaba can travel along nerves or affect the electrical firings.
Posted by Ruuudy on July 19, 2016, at 11:54:25
In reply to Re: Scientists discover gut bacteria that eats GABA » PeterMartin, posted by Horse on July 17, 2016, at 17:19:55
It's been some interesting reading following the newly highlighted "Gut/Brain" connection in the media & medical journals!
It makes me think of it in these terms:
Our body is allot like a car, with the brain being a major engine component and the gut being the fuel tank. We all should know that if we have bad fuel or other sediments residing in our gas tank, our car is not gonna run at optimum performance.
These probiotics are like putting fuel stabilizer in your gas tank.Me not being a morning breakfast eater, for the past couple of years, I have drank a glass of Kefir Yogurt containing probiotics to help get my engine revved up in the morning.
I know it's helped and I can't not think it's benefited my mental health at the same time.I'm really intrigued by this science!
Rudy
Posted by Horse on July 19, 2016, at 18:23:59
In reply to Re: Scientists discover gut bacteria that eats GABA, posted by Ruuudy on July 19, 2016, at 11:54:25
My understanding is kefir is the way to go for optimal probiotic benefits. Have you come across this thread? Hugh mentions a particularly probiotic strain.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20111229/msgs/1012242.html
> It's been some interesting reading following the newly highlighted "Gut/Brain" connection in the media & medical journals!
>
> It makes me think of it in these terms:
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> Our body is allot like a car, with the brain being a major engine component and the gut being the fuel tank. We all should know that if we have bad fuel or other sediments residing in our gas tank, our car is not gonna run at optimum performance.
> These probiotics are like putting fuel stabilizer in your gas tank.
>
> Me not being a morning breakfast eater, for the past couple of years, I have drank a glass of Kefir Yogurt containing probiotics to help get my engine revved up in the morning.
> I know it's helped and I can't not think it's benefited my mental health at the same time.
>
> I'm really intrigued by this science!
>
> Rudy
>
Posted by Ruuudy on July 20, 2016, at 17:52:13
In reply to Re: Scientists discover gut bacteria that eats GABA » Ruuudy, posted by Horse on July 19, 2016, at 18:23:59
> My understanding is kefir is the way to go for optimal probiotic benefits. Have you come across this thread? Hugh mentions a particularly probiotic strain.
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20111229/msgs/1012242.html
>Thank you for that link - I had not read that.
And those posts were from 4 years ago - there's more & more talk about the gut connection everyday!Rudy
> > It's been some interesting reading following the newly highlighted "Gut/Brain" connection in the media & medical journals!
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> > It makes me think of it in these terms:
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> > Our body is allot like a car, with the brain being a major engine component and the gut being the fuel tank. We all should know that if we have bad fuel or other sediments residing in our gas tank, our car is not gonna run at optimum performance.
> > These probiotics are like putting fuel stabilizer in your gas tank.
> >
> > Me not being a morning breakfast eater, for the past couple of years, I have drank a glass of Kefir Yogurt containing probiotics to help get my engine revved up in the morning.
> > I know it's helped and I can't not think it's benefited my mental health at the same time.
> >
> > I'm really intrigued by this science!
> >
> > Rudy
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