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Posted by Lou Pilder on March 22, 2016, at 7:34:52
In reply to Re: scientology, prohibitions » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 22, 2016, at 0:16:52
>
> > > You see, I know what these drugs do to the mind, but I am prevented from posting here about that due to the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. And if you knew, you could have a whole new perspective that is kept from you here by Mr. Hsiung.
>
> I'd like to hear what you know about what these drugs do to the mind. Dr Bob isn't prohibiting anything any more.
>
>
> > Here is a video.
> > Lou
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKj74MPGUcs
> >
>
> A-ha, now I understand where some of your ideas come from. Did you know that film was produced by Scientology?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_Commission_on_Human_Rights
>
Tabitha,
The video was produced by the group but I am not a member of them. The doctor in the video knows that by combining those drugs, the effects are increased exponentially that killed the soldiers. This is what is allowed here to be promoted.
What Mr. Hsiung prohibits me from posting comes from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me. His policy is against the Jew which is the generally accepted meaning of what constitutes anti-Semitism which could lead readers to think that this is an anti-Semitic site. His absence here does not mean that he is allowing me to be immune from his enforcement policy, for those being allowed by him to defame me here could be a tactic to inflict emotional harm against me to suffer by him orchestrating the hate. Those that take advantage of him allowing the hate and throw their stones at me here could have those stones thrown back at them by someone greater than me. The tragedy here is that the population here is easily persuaded to go along with anti-Semitic hate and he could know that to cause harm to the Jews world-wide by him allowing the hate to be seen as being supportive. This is nothing new and I see right through it. I feel so sorry for those here that post this hate here.
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on March 22, 2016, at 12:52:33
In reply to Lou's response- » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 22, 2016, at 7:34:52
> Tabitha,
> The video was produced by the group but I am not a member of them.I'm glad for that. Scientology is a scary group!
> The doctor in the video knows that by combining those drugs, the effects are increased exponentially that killed the soldiers.I don't know. He waved a bunch of papers around that supposedly had a list of soldiers that had died from psychiatric medication. That would be big news if it happened, but every source I could find about it was from that same group CCHR of Scientology. Since Scientology is known to promote an aggressive anti-psychiatry agenda, and is known to lie to further their aims, then without corroborating reports I have to conclude that the story is not believable. I did learn, however, that the US Military did some LSD experiments on soldiers in the 1950's. I don't think that would happen today because of improvements in ethical standards for medical experiments.
> What Mr. Hsiung prohibits me from posting comes from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me.If it would make you feel better to share it, why not go ahead? If Bob was enforcing the rules you might already be blocked for over-generalization and exaggeration, and lots of people might be blocked for statements that could lead someone to feel put down. But overall we all seem to be OK despite the lack of enforcement.
> The tragedy here is that the population here is easily persuaded to go along with anti-Semitic hate
That would be tragic if it were true, but I don't see anyone becoming anti-Semitic because of anything here. Maybe you could give us some credit for being able to disagree with an individual who happens to be Jewish without developing hate for all Jewish people?
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 22, 2016, at 19:35:49
In reply to Re: perspective » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 22, 2016, at 12:52:33
>
> > Tabitha,
> > The video was produced by the group but I am not a member of them.
>
> I'm glad for that. Scientology is a scary group!
>
>
> > The doctor in the video knows that by combining those drugs, the effects are increased exponentially that killed the soldiers.
>
> I don't know. He waved a bunch of papers around that supposedly had a list of soldiers that had died from psychiatric medication. That would be big news if it happened, but every source I could find about it was from that same group CCHR of Scientology. Since Scientology is known to promote an aggressive anti-psychiatry agenda, and is known to lie to further their aims, then without corroborating reports I have to conclude that the story is not believable. I did learn, however, that the US Military did some LSD experiments on soldiers in the 1950's. I don't think that would happen today because of improvements in ethical standards for medical experiments.
>
>
> > What Mr. Hsiung prohibits me from posting comes from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me.
>
> If it would make you feel better to share it, why not go ahead? If Bob was enforcing the rules you might already be blocked for over-generalization and exaggeration, and lots of people might be blocked for statements that could lead someone to feel put down. But overall we all seem to be OK despite the lack of enforcement.
>
> > The tragedy here is that the population here is easily persuaded to go along with anti-Semitic hate
>
> That would be tragic if it were true, but I don't see anyone becoming anti-Semitic because of anything here. Maybe you could give us some credit for being able to disagree with an individual who happens to be Jewish without developing hate for all Jewish people?
>
> Friends,
be not deceived. The poster says that it would be big news. And the poster can only find one source. But this is news that has been in the public domain for a long time and not only privy to the CCHR.
Here is a link:
Lou
http://ahrp.org/military-deaths-linked-to-prescribed-psych-drugs
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 22, 2016, at 20:41:59
In reply to Lou's reply- » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 22, 2016, at 19:35:49
> >
> > > Tabitha,
> > > The video was produced by the group but I am not a member of them.
> >
> > I'm glad for that. Scientology is a scary group!
> >
> >
> > > The doctor in the video knows that by combining those drugs, the effects are increased exponentially that killed the soldiers.
> >
> > I don't know. He waved a bunch of papers around that supposedly had a list of soldiers that had died from psychiatric medication. That would be big news if it happened, but every source I could find about it was from that same group CCHR of Scientology. Since Scientology is known to promote an aggressive anti-psychiatry agenda, and is known to lie to further their aims, then without corroborating reports I have to conclude that the story is not believable. I did learn, however, that the US Military did some LSD experiments on soldiers in the 1950's. I don't think that would happen today because of improvements in ethical standards for medical experiments.
> >
> >
> > > What Mr. Hsiung prohibits me from posting comes from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me.
> >
> > If it would make you feel better to share it, why not go ahead? If Bob was enforcing the rules you might already be blocked for over-generalization and exaggeration, and lots of people might be blocked for statements that could lead someone to feel put down. But overall we all seem to be OK despite the lack of enforcement.
> >
> > > The tragedy here is that the population here is easily persuaded to go along with anti-Semitic hate
> >
> > That would be tragic if it were true, but I don't see anyone becoming anti-Semitic because of anything here. Maybe you could give us some credit for being able to disagree with an individual who happens to be Jewish without developing hate for all Jewish people?
> >
> > Friends,
> be not deceived. The poster says that it would be big news. And the poster can only find one source. But this is news that has been in the public domain for a long time and not only privy to the CCHR.
> Here is a link:
> Lou
> http://ahrp.org/military-deaths-linked-to-prescribed-psych-drugs
>
> Tabitha,
You wrote,[...you might be blocked for overgeneralizing...].
I am unsure as to what you are using to post such here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly. True or False:
A. I know of a post, Lou, that you wrote that is overgeneralizing.
B. I will post the link here:
C. I do not know of a post by you, Lou, that constitutes overgeneralizing.
D. I just said that, Lou, because Scott has accused you of that.
E. I just said that, Lou, so readers could have hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward you.
F. I just said that, Lou, so that it could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which you are held
G. I am beginning to see now, Lou, how anti-Semitism is being created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung and those that he allows to defame you here.
Posted by Tabitha on March 23, 2016, at 5:00:42
In reply to Lou's reply- » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 22, 2016, at 19:35:49
> The poster says that it would be big news. And the poster can only find one source. But this is news that has been in the public domain for a long time and not only privy to the CCHR.
> Here is a link:
> Lou
> http://ahrp.org/military-deaths-linked-to-prescribed-psych-drugs
>
>Yes, I do think that if the military was experimenting on soldiers with psych meds, and hundreds of deaths were caused by it, that we would see some reporting in the major publications like new york times, L.A. times, washington post, and the like, in addition to an obscure website run by Scientology. It would be a big, explosive story, appealing to journalists. Someone might even win a pulitzer prize for the reporting! Thus the fact that this shocking story is *not* reported in a major publication gives another big clue that it is a false report, on top of the fact that Scientology is promoting the story. As is, it's just not convincing at all.
Posted by Tabitha on March 23, 2016, at 5:15:06
In reply to Lou's reply to Tabitha-create and develop, posted by Lou Pilder on March 22, 2016, at 20:41:59
> You wrote,[...you might be blocked for overgeneralizing...].
> I am unsure as to what you are using to post such here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly. True or False:
> A. I know of a post, Lou, that you wrote that is overgeneralizing.
> B. I will post the link here:I don't have the specific link, but I was thinking of an exchange where I thought you had taken the fact that some psych meds are suspected of increasing suicidal thoughts in some age groups, and extended that to mean that all psych meds cause suicide. To me that seemed like overgeneralizing.
> C. I do not know of a post by you, Lou, that constitutes overgeneralizing.
> D. I just said that, Lou, because Scott has accused you of that.Did he? I'm not even sure I noticed that.
> E. I just said that, Lou, so readers could have hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward you.
> F. I just said that, Lou, so that it could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which you are heldMy purpose was to point out that your posts had already (perhaps) crossed the line of the old rules, and you hadn't been sanctioned in any way, thus it probably isn't necessary to avoid posting your information that you think will help people. We have heard a lot about how you think medication harms people, so I thought it would be good to hear the whole story. I can see however, that my post led you to feel put down, and I am sorry for that.
> G. I am beginning to see now, Lou, how anti-Semitism is being created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung and those that he allows to defame you here.
>No, I don't see that at all. I still see that Babblers can disagree with a person who happens to be Jewish without it creating defamation of Jewish people in general.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 7:57:04
In reply to Re: miltiary experiments?, posted by Tabitha on March 23, 2016, at 5:00:42
> > The poster says that it would be big news. And the poster can only find one source. But this is news that has been in the public domain for a long time and not only privy to the CCHR.
> > Here is a link:
> > Lou
> > http://ahrp.org/military-deaths-linked-to-prescribed-psych-drugs
> >
> >
>
> Yes, I do think that if the military was experimenting on soldiers with psych meds, and hundreds of deaths were caused by it, that we would see some reporting in the major publications like new york times, L.A. times, washington post, and the like, in addition to an obscure website run by Scientology. It would be a big, explosive story, appealing to journalists. Someone might even win a pulitzer prize for the reporting! Thus the fact that this shocking story is *not* reported in a major publication gives another big clue that it is a false report, on top of the fact that Scientology is promoting the story. As is, it's just not convincing at all.
>
Tabitha,
You wrote,
[...this shocking story is NOT reported in the NY Times...],[...it is a false report...], [...on top of that Scientology is reporting the story...], [...it is not convincing at all...].
I am unsure as to what your rationale for posting such here is. If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly. Here is the story reported in the NY Times and the administering of psychiatric drugs was done as a psychiatrist would do and was not experimenting on the soldiers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13drugs.html?_r=0
True or False:
A.I deliberately misrepresented here, Lou, so that others could be misled about you and decrease the respect regard and confidence in which you are held
B. I made a mistake, Lou, and there was the article written by the ny times.
C. Scientology was reporting the truth, Lou, but I want to slander that group so readers will ignore the truth
D. I want to contribute to the debasement and degrading of you, Lou, here by also posting what could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward you.
E. I realize, Lou, that anti-Semitic propaganda is being allowed to be seen here as being supportive by Mr. Hsiung, so by me posting what could defame you here, I would be helping Mr. Hsiung develop anti-Semitism further here.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 8:03:59
In reply to Re: miltiary experiments? » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 7:57:04
> > > The poster says that it would be big news. And the poster can only find one source. But this is news that has been in the public domain for a long time and not only privy to the CCHR.
> > > Here is a link:
> > > Lou
> > > http://ahrp.org/military-deaths-linked-to-prescribed-psych-drugs
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Yes, I do think that if the military was experimenting on soldiers with psych meds, and hundreds of deaths were caused by it, that we would see some reporting in the major publications like new york times, L.A. times, washington post, and the like, in addition to an obscure website run by Scientology. It would be a big, explosive story, appealing to journalists. Someone might even win a pulitzer prize for the reporting! Thus the fact that this shocking story is *not* reported in a major publication gives another big clue that it is a false report, on top of the fact that Scientology is promoting the story. As is, it's just not convincing at all.
> >
> Tabitha,
> You wrote,
> [...this shocking story is NOT reported in the NY Times...],[...it is a false report...], [...on top of that Scientology is reporting the story...], [...it is not convincing at all...].
> I am unsure as to what your rationale for posting such here is. If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly. Here is the story reported in the NY Times and the administering of psychiatric drugs was done as a psychiatrist would do and was not experimenting on the soldiers.
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13drugs.html?_r=0
> True or False:
> A.I deliberately misrepresented here, Lou, so that others could be misled about you and decrease the respect regard and confidence in which you are held
> B. I made a mistake, Lou, and there was the article written by the ny times.
> C. Scientology was reporting the truth, Lou, but I want to slander that group so readers will ignore the truth
> D. I want to contribute to the debasement and degrading of you, Lou, here by also posting what could induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward you.
> E. I realize, Lou, that anti-Semitic propaganda is being allowed to be seen here as being supportive by Mr. Hsiung, so by me posting what could defame you here, I would be helping Mr. Hsiung develop anti-Semitism further here.
> Lou
>
> correction to link
Lou
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13drugs.html?_r=0
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 9:12:55
In reply to Re: a series of answers » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 23, 2016, at 5:15:06
> > You wrote,[...you might be blocked for overgeneralizing...].
> > I am unsure as to what you are using to post such here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly. True or False:
> > A. I know of a post, Lou, that you wrote that is overgeneralizing.
> > B. I will post the link here:
>
> I don't have the specific link, but I was thinking of an exchange where I thought you had taken the fact that some psych meds are suspected of increasing suicidal thoughts in some age groups, and extended that to mean that all psych meds cause suicide. To me that seemed like overgeneralizing.
>
>
>
>
> > C. I do not know of a post by you, Lou, that constitutes overgeneralizing.
> > D. I just said that, Lou, because Scott has accused you of that.
>
> Did he? I'm not even sure I noticed that.
>
> > E. I just said that, Lou, so readers could have hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward you.
> > F. I just said that, Lou, so that it could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which you are held
>
> My purpose was to point out that your posts had already (perhaps) crossed the line of the old rules, and you hadn't been sanctioned in any way, thus it probably isn't necessary to avoid posting your information that you think will help people. We have heard a lot about how you think medication harms people, so I thought it would be good to hear the whole story. I can see however, that my post led you to feel put down, and I am sorry for that.
>
> > G. I am beginning to see now, Lou, how anti-Semitism is being created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung and those that he allows to defame you here.
> >
>
> No, I don't see that at all. I still see that Babblers can disagree with a person who happens to be Jewish without it creating defamation of Jewish people in general.
>
Tabitha,
The creating of defamation toward Jewish people can be accomplished by using the historical tactics against the one Jew in a community. These tactics create and develop anti-Semitic feelings so that the community members are led by the leaders to think of Jews as inferior people, dehumanizing them by denying them the equal protection of the laws or rules as here. This is just one way in a compilation of debasing tactics to lead community members to hate Jews. This hatred manifests itself here as in the many posts that defame me and Jews all allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen that he thinks by him allowing it that it will be good for his community as a whole, and good for him. That could seriously mislead readers to their deaths. The concept of European fascism as being for {the common good} reeks here in the hatred posted against me being allowed to fester and infect the minds of innocent children to read this hatred as being civil by Mr. Hsiung as being what he thinks will be good for community as a whole as his justification for allowing the anti-Semitic hate here to stand.
Here is a document expelling the Jews from Spain in 1492 and look at the 2end paragraph showing the reasons for expelling the Jews. It is because they mentioned Judaism. It is because they comingled with non-Jews that in this case were of the Christendom sect. And the Jews were shunned and ghettoized as being advocated here by Scott all being supported by Mr. Hsiung and the other members of the mob of hate here all being nurtured by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record to be immune from his enforcement policy while I am being prohibited to post the foundation of Judaism here as revealed to me. This prohibition to me by Mr. Hsiung is also in the historical record by those wanting to ghettoize the Jews and have them shunned as being advocated here by Scott with Mr. Hsiung's allowing of it. This turns my stomach.
Lou
http://www.sephardicstudies.org/decree.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 11:16:33
In reply to Re: Sociopath Lou » SLS, posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2016, at 21:44:44
> > > Lou, you had a psychotic break. You are seriously mentally ill, and have no insight whatsoever into your true condition.
> >
> > Yes. This is unfortunate - but accurate.
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl?post=/babble/20000128/msgs/20828.html
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Actually, Scott, I was referring to something he posted about a vision that included flying white horses, or something like that? I really don't remember the specifics, but it also had some sort of a connotation that the vision itself had a divine origin.
>
> Ya, now he's a divine sociopath, or some such. Ya, I believe you, Lou.
>
> Not.
>
> Lar
>
> Mr. Hoover,
Your slander here against me is allowed by Mr. Hsiung and he deprives me of the use of his notification policy which degrades me as an inferior person treated as unequal here.
I am not a sociopath as you claim and that is a false accusation that could decrease the respect and regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings against me. The tragedy here is that children reading here could be killed by ignoring what I post and be led to their deaths by the drugs being allowed to be promoted here without the harmful effects being posted which could lead readers to think that the drugs are safer than they really are.
The Rider on the white horse is a spirit. This spirit was there in the beginning and was God. This spirit is here now calling all to come to him.
And this Jesus of Nazareth, who was a Jewish dude, came to tell of this same spirit that allowed one to cross over The Great Gulf and be led to a new kingdom free from addiction and depression and death. For He first said, "Repent, for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand." Was He a sociopath?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 12:13:27
In reply to Lou's reply- » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 9:12:55
> > > You wrote,[...you might be blocked for overgeneralizing...].
> > > I am unsure as to what you are using to post such here. If you could post answers to the following, then I could respond accordingly. True or False:
> > > A. I know of a post, Lou, that you wrote that is overgeneralizing.
> > > B. I will post the link here:
> >
> > I don't have the specific link, but I was thinking of an exchange where I thought you had taken the fact that some psych meds are suspected of increasing suicidal thoughts in some age groups, and extended that to mean that all psych meds cause suicide. To me that seemed like overgeneralizing.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > C. I do not know of a post by you, Lou, that constitutes overgeneralizing.
> > > D. I just said that, Lou, because Scott has accused you of that.
> >
> > Did he? I'm not even sure I noticed that.
> >
> > > E. I just said that, Lou, so readers could have hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward you.
> > > F. I just said that, Lou, so that it could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which you are held
> >
> > My purpose was to point out that your posts had already (perhaps) crossed the line of the old rules, and you hadn't been sanctioned in any way, thus it probably isn't necessary to avoid posting your information that you think will help people. We have heard a lot about how you think medication harms people, so I thought it would be good to hear the whole story. I can see however, that my post led you to feel put down, and I am sorry for that.
> >
> > > G. I am beginning to see now, Lou, how anti-Semitism is being created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung and those that he allows to defame you here.
> > >
> >
> > No, I don't see that at all. I still see that Babblers can disagree with a person who happens to be Jewish without it creating defamation of Jewish people in general.
> >
> Tabitha,
> The creating of defamation toward Jewish people can be accomplished by using the historical tactics against the one Jew in a community. These tactics create and develop anti-Semitic feelings so that the community members are led by the leaders to think of Jews as inferior people, dehumanizing them by denying them the equal protection of the laws or rules as here. This is just one way in a compilation of debasing tactics to lead community members to hate Jews. This hatred manifests itself here as in the many posts that defame me and Jews all allowed by Mr. Hsiung to be seen that he thinks by him allowing it that it will be good for his community as a whole, and good for him. That could seriously mislead readers to their deaths. The concept of European fascism as being for {the common good} reeks here in the hatred posted against me being allowed to fester and infect the minds of innocent children to read this hatred as being civil by Mr. Hsiung as being what he thinks will be good for community as a whole as his justification for allowing the anti-Semitic hate here to stand.
> Here is a document expelling the Jews from Spain in 1492 and look at the 2end paragraph showing the reasons for expelling the Jews. It is because they mentioned Judaism. It is because they comingled with non-Jews that in this case were of the Christendom sect. And the Jews were shunned and ghettoized as being advocated here by Scott all being supported by Mr. Hsiung and the other members of the mob of hate here all being nurtured by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record to be immune from his enforcement policy while I am being prohibited to post the foundation of Judaism here as revealed to me. This prohibition to me by Mr. Hsiung is also in the historical record by those wanting to ghettoize the Jews and have them shunned as being advocated here by Scott with Mr. Hsiung's allowing of it. This turns my stomach.
> Lou
> http://www.sephardicstudies.org/decree.html
>
Tabitha,
If you will not post this supposed link that you say that you thought constituted me overgeneralizing, then which do you think would be appropriate here?
A. I will post, Lou, that I jumped to a conclusion about what you posted
B. I will post, Lou, that I defamed you here
C. I will post, Lou, that I used the fallacy of quoting out of context
D. I will post, Lou, that I now am seeing how anti-Semitism is being created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and those that have impunity here to defame you.
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on March 23, 2016, at 17:00:27
In reply to correction- not experiments at all by the NY Times, posted by Lou Pilder on March 23, 2016, at 8:03:59
> > correction to link
> Lou
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/13drugs.html?_r=0
>
>Thank you. I have read the article. I would like to respond in detail a bit later.
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 26, 2016, at 23:44:20
In reply to Re: Sociopath Lou » SLS, posted by Larry Hoover on March 6, 2016, at 21:44:44
> > > Lou, you had a psychotic break. You are seriously mentally ill, and have no insight whatsoever into your true condition.
> >
> > Yes. This is unfortunate - but accurate.
> >
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl?post=/babble/20000128/msgs/20828.html
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Actually, Scott, I was referring to something he posted about a vision that included flying white horses, or something like that? I really don't remember the specifics, but it also had some sort of a connotation that the vision itself had a divine origin.
>
> Ya, now he's a divine sociopath, or some such. Ya, I believe you, Lou.
>
> Not.
>
> LarI did a quick search using the google/psychobabble option, and I found the following links without any trouble.
Lou describes some fantastic events, which apparently were sufficient to lead his parents to take him to a psych facility for assessment, but that becomes part of his narrative.
He mentions the death and reanimation of his associate Eleazar. You should note that the Aramaic/Hebrew spelling of this name becomes Lazarus in the Latinate form. Jesus reanimated Lazarus.
He mentions meeting some Holocaust survivor doctor who later is not known to have been at the facility.
I'm really not interested in the details, but I think these are salient issues to assess, if you choose to read Lou's own words.
The man had a psychotic break, and he resents being medicated. That is the root of all this BS on these boards.
Here are only a couple threads that you might review. If the man doesn't just talk to himself, he accuses others of anti-Semitism if they question any of it. And yet, his Rider on the white horse is a Nazi, in one vision. I can't figure it out, other than Lou is seriously mentally ill.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020430/msgs/23169.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020523/msgs/24688.html
Lar
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 27, 2016, at 13:11:15
In reply to Re: Sociopath Lou, posted by Larry Hoover on March 26, 2016, at 23:44:20
> > > > Lou, you had a psychotic break. You are seriously mentally ill, and have no insight whatsoever into your true condition.
> > >
> > > Yes. This is unfortunate - but accurate.
> > >
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl?post=/babble/20000128/msgs/20828.html
> > >
> > >
> > > - Scott
> >
> > Actually, Scott, I was referring to something he posted about a vision that included flying white horses, or something like that? I really don't remember the specifics, but it also had some sort of a connotation that the vision itself had a divine origin.
> >
> > Ya, now he's a divine sociopath, or some such. Ya, I believe you, Lou.
> >
> > Not.
> >
> > Lar
>
> I did a quick search using the google/psychobabble option, and I found the following links without any trouble.
>
> Lou describes some fantastic events, which apparently were sufficient to lead his parents to take him to a psych facility for assessment, but that becomes part of his narrative.
>
> He mentions the death and reanimation of his associate Eleazar. You should note that the Aramaic/Hebrew spelling of this name becomes Lazarus in the Latinate form. Jesus reanimated Lazarus.
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> He mentions meeting some Holocaust survivor doctor who later is not known to have been at the facility.
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> I'm really not interested in the details, but I think these are salient issues to assess, if you choose to read Lou's own words.
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> The man had a psychotic break, and he resents being medicated. That is the root of all this BS on these boards.
>
> Here are only a couple threads that you might review. If the man doesn't just talk to himself, he accuses others of anti-Semitism if they question any of it. And yet, his Rider on the white horse is a Nazi, in one vision. I can't figure it out, other than Lou is seriously mentally ill.
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020430/msgs/23169.html
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> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/social/20020523/msgs/24688.html
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> LarFriends, Mr. Hoover says that he can not figure it out. Yet today, he makes the conclusions seen here about me.
You see, the Rider on the white horse is a spirit. He is The Word of God as revealed to me. This may be difficult to understand because of the prohibitions to me here by Mr. Hsiung that prevent me from showing what could be revealed to you that could allow you to figure it out. But be it as it may be, the Rider is not Christendom's Jesus. The Word was there in the beginning.
And in the beginning, God Said, "Let there be light." God said that by His Word. That light was life itself coming into the universe. This life, or light, is symbolized by the natural light from the sun. Without the natural light there could not be life to come into the world. This light of life can bring a new life to you of a new life that makes you free from addiction and depression. The Rider is life. Not the natural life that dies, but the spiritual life from above that lives.
And when I had an encounter with the Rider on the white horse, He said to me, "I am the light of the world. He that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."Lou
Posted by Tabitha on March 27, 2016, at 16:05:26
In reply to Lou's response-the Rider » Larry Hoover, posted by Lou Pilder on March 27, 2016, at 13:11:15
> And when I had an encounter with the Rider on the white horse, He said to me, "I am the light of the world. He that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."Lou
I don't know, Lou. If that happened to me I would think it was a hallucination. Actually I did once hallucinate that the creator of the universe was showing me things. Some non-medical substances were involved though ;-)
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 28, 2016, at 19:47:13
In reply to Re: the Rider » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 27, 2016, at 16:05:26
> > And when I had an encounter with the Rider on the white horse, He said to me, "I am the light of the world. He that follows me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life."Lou
>
> I don't know, Lou. If that happened to me I would think it was a hallucination. Actually I did once hallucinate that the creator of the universe was showing me things. Some non-medical substances were involved though ;-)
>
> Tabitha,
What I have been bringing here is a spiritual revealing. The revealing is not of the senses, but of the spirit. So there is not visual or auditory manifestations of the spiritual revelation.
The revelation is something new that is here now and I have been chosen to minster to those here. This spirit puts the laws of the God that I give service and worship to into your mind and writes them in your heart so that you shall know Him.
This spirit gives one life. This life enables one to overcome all things. And when I had an encounter with the Rider, He said to me, "I have come so that you may have life and might have it more abundantly."
You see, it has been revealed to me that this life can heal those here that are in the darkness of addiction and depression. This healing comes from the light that was made in the beginning. Not the natural light, but this spiritual light that comes from above that can transform you from death to life and heal the brokenhearted.
For I have seen the Morning Star in the darkness. And when I had an encounter with the Rider, He said to me, "But you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and you shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And you shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this."
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on March 29, 2016, at 12:38:17
In reply to Lou's reply-the Morning Star » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 28, 2016, at 19:47:13
> What I have been bringing here is a spiritual revealing. The revealing is not of the senses, but of the spirit. So there is not visual or auditory manifestations of the spiritual revelation.
So it's more like in your thoughts rather than something that seems real, right? My revelation was like that, too. The creator was showing me things visually. I saw this in my head, but I didn't think I was actually seeing something with my eyes. I saw a bird's-eye view of all creation. It looked like a big beautiful detailed thing, blooming all over like one of those multicolored fractal shapes. I sensed the creator was by my side, although it didn't have a form. I asked it silently why it created all this stuff. It responded wordlessly by putting a huge rush of love into my heart, the most intense feeling of love I'd ever had. It was clear to me that it was telling me it created all this stuff to express its love. It was pretty intense!
The next day I was convinced the creator had told me this special message, and I stayed convinced for a couple decades, until I became a lot more skeptical, and I no longer thought that stuff in your head that seemed convincing was necessarily true. Then I realized it was likely that I only thought I was seeing God because I was tripping, and the message of the creator's love was what my friend believed and had already talked about to me. He would say that the universe was held together by love. So those thoughts were already in my head, and were probably used as raw material when I was in an altered state, kind of like your brain uses details of your day when it creates vivid dreams.
> The revelation is something new that is here now and I have been chosen to minster to those here. This spirit puts the laws of the God that I give service and worship to into your mind and writes them in your heart so that you shall know Him.
> This spirit gives one life. This life enables one to overcome all things. And when I had an encounter with the Rider, He said to me, "I have come so that you may have life and might have it more abundantly."
> You see, it has been revealed to me that this life can heal those here that are in the darkness of addiction and depression. This healing comes from the light that was made in the beginning. Not the natural light, but this spiritual light that comes from above that can transform you from death to life and heal the brokenhearted.
> For I have seen the Morning Star in the darkness. And when I had an encounter with the Rider, He said to me, "But you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and you shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And you shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this."
> Lou
>So the Rider said things from the Bible? John 10:10 "I am come that they may have life, and may have it more abundantly", and Malachi 4:2 "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall." Malachi 4:3 "And you shall tread down the lawless and wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this" How would you know the difference if this was really put into your thoughts by a divine being, versus a vision that your brain produced when you were in an altered state? You'd probably already read the Bible, right? Isn't it an amazing coincidence that the Rider used those exact words? Those are questions I would have.
Also, I wonder, if this life could heal those here that are in the darkness of addiction and depression, why wouldn't it have done that already? If you prayed for all of us, shouldn't we be healed? We'd all be posting about the Rider and how we'd given up our medications, and telling new posters about the good news. It's kind of a bummer that you're the only one with this vision, and nobody else is convinced.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 29, 2016, at 19:00:36
In reply to Re: the revelation » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 29, 2016, at 12:38:17
> > What I have been bringing here is a spiritual revealing. The revealing is not of the senses, but of the spirit. So there is not visual or auditory manifestations of the spiritual revelation.
>
> So it's more like in your thoughts rather than something that seems real, right? My revelation was like that, too. The creator was showing me things visually. I saw this in my head, but I didn't think I was actually seeing something with my eyes. I saw a bird's-eye view of all creation. It looked like a big beautiful detailed thing, blooming all over like one of those multicolored fractal shapes. I sensed the creator was by my side, although it didn't have a form. I asked it silently why it created all this stuff. It responded wordlessly by putting a huge rush of love into my heart, the most intense feeling of love I'd ever had. It was clear to me that it was telling me it created all this stuff to express its love. It was pretty intense!
>
> The next day I was convinced the creator had told me this special message, and I stayed convinced for a couple decades, until I became a lot more skeptical, and I no longer thought that stuff in your head that seemed convincing was necessarily true. Then I realized it was likely that I only thought I was seeing God because I was tripping, and the message of the creator's love was what my friend believed and had already talked about to me. He would say that the universe was held together by love. So those thoughts were already in my head, and were probably used as raw material when I was in an altered state, kind of like your brain uses details of your day when it creates vivid dreams.
>
> > The revelation is something new that is here now and I have been chosen to minster to those here. This spirit puts the laws of the God that I give service and worship to into your mind and writes them in your heart so that you shall know Him.
> > This spirit gives one life. This life enables one to overcome all things. And when I had an encounter with the Rider, He said to me, "I have come so that you may have life and might have it more abundantly."
> > You see, it has been revealed to me that this life can heal those here that are in the darkness of addiction and depression. This healing comes from the light that was made in the beginning. Not the natural light, but this spiritual light that comes from above that can transform you from death to life and heal the brokenhearted.
> > For I have seen the Morning Star in the darkness. And when I had an encounter with the Rider, He said to me, "But you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and you shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall. And you shall tread down the wicked; for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this."
> > Lou
> >
>
> So the Rider said things from the Bible? John 10:10 "I am come that they may have life, and may have it more abundantly", and Malachi 4:2 "But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall." Malachi 4:3 "And you shall tread down the lawless and wicked, for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this" How would you know the difference if this was really put into your thoughts by a divine being, versus a vision that your brain produced when you were in an altered state? You'd probably already read the Bible, right? Isn't it an amazing coincidence that the Rider used those exact words? Those are questions I would have.
>
> Also, I wonder, if this life could heal those here that are in the darkness of addiction and depression, why wouldn't it have done that already? If you prayed for all of us, shouldn't we be healed? We'd all be posting about the Rider and how we'd given up our medications, and telling new posters about the good news. It's kind of a bummer that you're the only one with this vision, and nobody else is convinced.
>
Tabitha, You wrote,[...if this life could heal...why wouldn't it have done that already?...].
The prohibitions to me here by Mr. Hsiung prevent me from posting what I would need to post so that readers could understand. By him allowing anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation against me, readers could discard what I write here. And worse, Mr. Hsiung asks you to trust him, so his advocating to not respond to me by his example that he does not respond to me, and by him posting the abomination that makes desolate, the swastika, all these things could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and induce hostile and disagreeable opinions and feelings toward me. This can create and develop hatred toward me here, and then hatred to the God that is the light that could give people new life.
This hatred was explained in advance to me by the rider on the white horse. For He said to me, "If the world hate you, you know it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world will hate you. And he that hates you hates me and my Father also. But be of good cheer. I will send the spirit of truth to those that will receive you in my name and guide them to all truth. And I will see you again and your heart shall rejoice and your joy no man can take from you. These things I have spoken to you that in me you might have peace. In the world you will have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on March 30, 2016, at 14:29:03
In reply to Lou's reply-overcome the world » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 29, 2016, at 19:00:36
> This hatred was explained in advance to me by the rider on the white horse. For He said to me, "If the world hate you, you know it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world will hate you. And he that hates you hates me and my Father also. But be of good cheer. I will send the spirit of truth to those that will receive you in my name and guide them to all truth. And I will see you again and your heart shall rejoice and your joy no man can take from you. These things I have spoken to you that in me you might have peace. In the world you will have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
> Lou
>It's interesting that this message you heard from the rider is also in the book of John, chapters 15 and 16. Looks like it's Jesus' words to the disciples? I find the Bible really hard to follow.
I still think it's kind of unfair that the rider didn't just appear to all of us, instead of requiring you to personally convince people. If the light of the world really wanted us to all get this message, wouldn't it make its message a bit more accessible and convincing?
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 30, 2016, at 14:46:33
In reply to Re: the rider's words » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 30, 2016, at 14:29:03
> > This hatred was explained in advance to me by the rider on the white horse. For He said to me, "If the world hate you, you know it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world will hate you. And he that hates you hates me and my Father also. But be of good cheer. I will send the spirit of truth to those that will receive you in my name and guide them to all truth. And I will see you again and your heart shall rejoice and your joy no man can take from you. These things I have spoken to you that in me you might have peace. In the world you will have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
> > Lou
> >
>
> It's interesting that this message you heard from the rider is also in the book of John, chapters 15 and 16. Looks like it's Jesus' words to the disciples? I find the Bible really hard to follow.
>
> I still think it's kind of unfair that the rider didn't just appear to all of us, instead of requiring you to personally convince people. If the light of the world really wanted us to all get this message, wouldn't it make its message a bit more accessible and convincing?
>
Tabitha,
There is a Great Deception that I am prohibited to post about here by Mr. Hsiung. And readers here could be greatly deceived by the allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed by him to be seen as being supportive.
And in The Encounter, the Rider said to me, "The heavens declare the glory of God."
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 30, 2016, at 19:17:45
In reply to Lou's reply-the heavens declare » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 30, 2016, at 14:46:33
> > > This hatred was explained in advance to me by the rider on the white horse. For He said to me, "If the world hate you, you know it hated me before it hated you. If you were of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world will hate you. And he that hates you hates me and my Father also. But be of good cheer. I will send the spirit of truth to those that will receive you in my name and guide them to all truth. And I will see you again and your heart shall rejoice and your joy no man can take from you. These things I have spoken to you that in me you might have peace. In the world you will have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
> > > Lou
> > >
> >
> > It's interesting that this message you heard from the rider is also in the book of John, chapters 15 and 16. Looks like it's Jesus' words to the disciples? I find the Bible really hard to follow.
> >
> > I still think it's kind of unfair that the rider didn't just appear to all of us, instead of requiring you to personally convince people. If the light of the world really wanted us to all get this message, wouldn't it make its message a bit more accessible and convincing?
> >
> Tabitha,
> There is a Great Deception that I am prohibited to post about here by Mr. Hsiung. And readers here could be greatly deceived by the allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda being allowed by him to be seen as being supportive.
> And in The Encounter, the Rider said to me, "The heavens declare the glory of God."
> Lou
>
> Tabitha,
You wrote
,[...if the Light of the World really wanted us to all get the message, wouldn't it make the message a bit more accessible and convincing?...].
The plan that the God in question has is that He wants us to come to Him by faith. If, Let's say, this God walked around the Earth and was on television and resided in Chicago, then there could be no faith, because faith is the evidence of what can not be seen.
This is part of my ministry here as to bring faith to readers through the Spirit of Truth. And in The Encounter, the Rider said to me, "Bring the Word of God to the lost sheep. For faith comes by hearing the Word of God, for their faith shall make them whole.'
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on March 31, 2016, at 14:31:12
In reply to Lou's reply-faith comes by hearing, posted by Lou Pilder on March 30, 2016, at 19:17:45
> faith is the evidence of what can not be seen.
Could be. Or it could be wishful thinking. Or even delusion. How would you know? We humans have strong imaginations and emotions, and we're very suggestible.
> This is part of my ministry here as to bring faith to readers through the Spirit of Truth. And in The Encounter, the Rider said to me, "Bring the Word of God to the lost sheep. For faith comes by hearing the Word of God, for their faith shall make them whole.'
> LouSome people develop faith after hearing the words, and some people are unmoved. It's like some people want to eat chicken wings after seeing a commercial, and some people just don't like chicken wings no matter how many commercials they see. In fact, they'll get pretty annoyed after the 100th chicken wing commercial.
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 31, 2016, at 16:11:51
In reply to Re: evidence » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 31, 2016, at 14:31:12
> > faith is the evidence of what can not be seen.
>
> Could be. Or it could be wishful thinking. Or even delusion. How would you know? We humans have strong imaginations and emotions, and we're very suggestible.
>
>
> > This is part of my ministry here as to bring faith to readers through the Spirit of Truth. And in The Encounter, the Rider said to me, "Bring the Word of God to the lost sheep. For faith comes by hearing the Word of God, for their faith shall make them whole.'
> > Lou
>
> Some people develop faith after hearing the words, and some people are unmoved. It's like some people want to eat chicken wings after seeing a commercial, and some people just don't like chicken wings no matter how many commercials they see. In fact, they'll get pretty annoyed after the 100th chicken wing commercial.Tabitha, The Word of God can fall like a seed on good ground or poor ground or dry ground and there are those that will take the seed away from others to steal from them their opportunity for the seed of life to germinate into a new life within.
I have come here to seek the lost sheep and return them to their fold.
And you brought up another aspect of this as to how one could know. There are many ways.
In my encounter, I asked the Rider to give me a sign. He said to me, "No sign will be given to you, Lou, except the sign of Jonah. Just as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for 3 days and 3 nights, so shall you be 3 days and 3 nights in the Heart of the Earth."
That sign was fulfilled.
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on March 31, 2016, at 18:53:03
In reply to Lou's reply-The Heart of the Earth » Tabitha, posted by Lou Pilder on March 31, 2016, at 16:11:51
> Just as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for 3 days and 3 nights, so shall you be 3 days and 3 nights in the Heart of the Earth."
> That sign was fulfilled.
> LouWow, what was the heart of the earth like?
Posted by Lou Pilder on March 31, 2016, at 20:01:29
In reply to Re: The Heart of the Earth » Lou Pilder, posted by Tabitha on March 31, 2016, at 18:53:03
> > Just as Jonah was in the belly of the great fish for 3 days and 3 nights, so shall you be 3 days and 3 nights in the Heart of the Earth."
> > That sign was fulfilled.
> > Lou
>
> Wow, what was the heart of the earth like?
>
> Tabitha,
You can read here those that are in The Heart of the Earth. It is the agony of great suffering as being tortured so that you are brought into the dust of death.
This is another reason that I am here, to show those that are brought into the dust of death to be free of the captivity that are in The Heart of the Earth to return to the Green Fields that they used to know. And in the encounter, the Rider said to me, "He that hears my Word and believes in He that sent me, has everlasting life and is passed from death into life. And the hour is coming when those in The Heart of the Earth shall hear the Word and they that hear shall live. I can of my own self do nothing for I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father that has sent me. Go, Lou, and seek the lost sheep and bring to them my Word."
Lou
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