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Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 20:54:00
For the last 8 weeks or so I have been suffering greatly increased anxiety for no apparent reason. it was debilitating and dragging my performance at work down. i had increased my Xanax from 1mg twice a day to three times a day, but was still very anxious, tense and was developing avoidant beheivious related to anticipatory anxiety about panic attacks (again)
On Sunday night I decided to increase my risperidone from 1mg at bedtime to 1.5mg at bedtime, on Monday morning I work up noticabley calmer, and with some willpower I was able to keep my Xanax intake at 2 tablets that day.
Since then the effects have gotten even better, I have only been taking 2 Xanax a day, and am feeling calmer and better able to cope that I was at 3mg of Xanax a day.
Very glad i tried that little experiment!
Risperidone in low doses might be a good add on for treatment resistant anxiety disorders when antidepressants and benzos arnt getting you where you need to be
Posted by rjlockhart37 on November 21, 2012, at 21:51:55
In reply to The Wonderful World of Risperidone, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 20:54:00
yea...i've read things of risperdal in calming people here on babble, one person I went to an NA meeting told me they where avoiding benzos and put her on thorazine....sounds a bit harsh on the doctor part, but she said it calms and blocks negative and bad moods with irrtibility....she could go to the store without flipping out, she was a previous methamphetamine user, i don't know if it had residue effects, it alters the dopamine flow after...
i take zyprexa and I can't say how much it calms me down, vary similar to klonopin yet without the benzo effect, still calming effect.
It's the dopamine lowering effect that has a smooth calming effect....same with benzos but they use GABA to lower the effect of dopamine.
Have you tried to increase the dose to like 2-3mg? it may help but if its working for you now then stay at that...:)
r
Posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2012, at 22:26:44
In reply to The Wonderful World of Risperidone, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 20:54:00
Jono that is great so you will continue on the higher dose? Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 22:30:40
In reply to Re: The Wonderful World of Risperidone, posted by rjlockhart37 on November 21, 2012, at 21:51:55
I read an article from a mainstream medical journal that said that at low doseages (less than 2mg per day) risperidone doesnt fully occupy the dopamine receptor, but it does fully occupy the 5HT2A and 5HT2C and 5HT7 receptors, thus giving it anxiolytic and antidepressant effects, without neuroleptic side effects.
I want to get the dose back to 1mg per day when i can of course, but its some very welcome relief for now.
And as you said RJ, its working, thats realy all that matters!
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 18:34:27
In reply to Re: The Wonderful World of Risperidone » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2012, at 22:26:44
Hi Phillipa, yes, I think I will, atleast for a while, maybe give it 6 weeks then tey and cut back to 1mg per day
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 20:50:25
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 18:34:27
Or, might stay at 1.5mg of risperidone, and try and cut back the Xanax - Risperidone seems to releive my anxiety etc better than xanax.
Posted by prettygoodpatient on November 22, 2012, at 21:21:30
In reply to The Wonderful World of Risperidone, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 20:54:00
I've been on Risperdal for several years at varying dosages and I've found that .25 "rescue" doses when anxiety hits in the middle of the day in the place of Ativan or Klonopin has been EXTREMELY effective. Higher doses (4.5 mgs a day) was too much - flat affect, lost my sex drive, etc., but now I'm transitioning from a combo of Saprhis and low-dose Risperdal to Latuda (going great BTW) but I want to keep those magical little .25 Risperdal pills in my purse for safe keeping.
Hope it keeps working well for you, too!
Posted by Phillipa on November 22, 2012, at 22:30:26
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 20:50:25
Jono seriously you find resperidone is better at relieving all forms for anxiety? Does it also work on slight depression & fears? Am I too old for a low dose and how would someone who has taken a low dose of a benzo for over 40 years get my brain to adapt? Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 22:37:14
In reply to Re: Phillipa » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Phillipa on November 22, 2012, at 22:30:26
Hi Phillips
I dont think that you're too old, you could start at 0.25mg at night, then go to 0.5mg, then to 0.75 and even 1mg if needed. There is no reason you couldnt keep taking your Valium as well (not sure if Luvox is an issue with risperidone)
I find that risperidone helps anxiety, depression, panic and intrustive obsessive thoughts, but in a different way to the benzos.
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 23:07:10
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 22:37:14
It also helps with OCD
Usual dose for neurotic symptoms is 0.5-1mg per day
Posted by Phillipa on November 22, 2012, at 23:24:48
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 22, 2012, at 23:07:10
Jono what about weight gain? I think prefer the xanax over the valium. And what about the luvox? Lexapro no problem stopping. Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 23, 2012, at 1:21:05
In reply to Re: Phillipa » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Phillipa on November 22, 2012, at 23:24:48
No issue with Xanax either...... and weight gain doesnt seem to be an issue with these low doseages
The Luvox is a tricky one, it has a lot of interactions, not sure about with risperidone - I'll do some googling and let you know!
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 23, 2012, at 1:38:10
In reply to Re: Phillipa, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 23, 2012, at 1:21:05
Looks like its safe if the Luvox dose is 100mg per day or less
"The effect of fluvoxamine on plasma concentrations of risperidone and its active metabolite 9-hydroxyrisperidone (9-OH-risperidone) was investigated in 11 schizophrenic patients with prevailingly negative or depressive symptoms. Additional fluvoxamine, at the dose of 100 mg/day, was administered for 4 weeks to patients stabilized on risperidone (36 mg/day). Mean plasma concentrations of risperidone, 9-OH-risperidone and the active moiety (sum of the concentrations of risperidone and 9-OH-risperidone) were not significantly modified following co-administration with fluvoxamine. After 4 weeks, fluvoxamine dosage was increased to 200 mg/day in five patients and then maintained until the end of week 8. At final evaluation, mean plasma levels of risperidone active moiety were not modified in the six patients who were still receiving the initial fluvoxamine dose, while concentrations increased slightly but significantly (by a mean 26% over pretreatment; P < 0.05) in the subgroup of five subjects treated with a final dose of 200 mg/day. Fluvoxamine co-administration with risperidone was well tolerated and no patient developed extrapyramidal side effects. These findings indicate that fluvoxamine at dosages up to 100 mg/day is not associated with clinically significant changes in plasma risperidone concentrations. However, higher doses of fluvoxamine may elevate plasma risperidone levels, presumably as a result of a dose-dependent inhibitory effect of fluvoxamine on CYP2D6-and/or CYP3A4-mediated 9-hydroxylation of risperidone."
Posted by Lou PIlder on November 23, 2012, at 10:37:30
In reply to The Wonderful World of Risperidone, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 20:54:00
> For the last 8 weeks or so I have been suffering greatly increased anxiety for no apparent reason. it was debilitating and dragging my performance at work down. i had increased my Xanax from 1mg twice a day to three times a day, but was still very anxious, tense and was developing avoidant beheivious related to anticipatory anxiety about panic attacks (again)
>
> On Sunday night I decided to increase my risperidone from 1mg at bedtime to 1.5mg at bedtime, on Monday morning I work up noticabley calmer, and with some willpower I was able to keep my Xanax intake at 2 tablets that day.
>
> Since then the effects have gotten even better, I have only been taking 2 Xanax a day, and am feeling calmer and better able to cope that I was at 3mg of Xanax a day.
>
> Very glad i tried that little experiment!
>
> Risperidone in low doses might be a good add on for treatment resistant anxiety disorders when antidepressants and benzos arnt getting you where you need to beFriends,
It is written here,[...The wonderful world of rispridone...].
You may be reading here to try to make a more-informed decision as to drug your child in collaboration with a psychiatrist/doctor.
Now if all the truth was known about these drugs, one could have a clearer picture of what could happen to one that takes risperidone aks risperdal. I am prevented here by the prohibitions to me posted by Mr Hsiung to me that makes me leave out a lot of educational material that could help those to ake a more informed decision. And wha is more disturbing is that Mr Hsiung is allowing the title to me , {The Prince of Death} to be tagged to me here. The Prince of Death is Satan. I am not the prince of death for I am trying to save lives here.
BUt be it as it may be, whatever stigmatization could you have here about me, be advised that it has been revealed to me how one could have life, and life more abundantyly. And death is an enemy to me. Here is a link to the % of deaths for people aking risperidone. Notic that te % is great, statistically that is. WOuld you be concernd if every day many jumbo jets landed and in ech plane many people were strapped in their seats dead? here were about 42,000 people that died last year alone from psychotropic drugs. Look at the chances. And when the drug is combined with other psychotropic drugs, the chances of death go up and up and up.
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
Posted by Jeroen on November 23, 2012, at 15:03:30
In reply to The Wonderful World of Risperidone, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 20:54:00
risperidone made me anxiety, and did not the oposite for me what you're saying, i'm glad it works for you, im happy it did :)
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 23, 2012, at 16:44:18
In reply to Lou's response-wrizdheth » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Lou PIlder on November 23, 2012, at 10:37:30
Friends, romands and cuntymen, lend me your rears, for it is written and it is said that any of you who drinket from the cup of psychotrophic medications will be damned to the eternal damnation of hells grim tyrant. let us discuss the alternatives - the church of scientology can cure everything from neurosis to cancer with its blessed teachings which Mr Dr Hussein wont let me discuss here within
Love
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on November 23, 2012, at 20:38:30
In reply to Re: Lou's response-wrizdheth *joke*, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 23, 2012, at 16:44:18
Yes Sir!!!!
Posted by ChicagoKat on November 24, 2012, at 15:14:32
In reply to The Wonderful World of Risperidone, posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 21, 2012, at 20:54:00
Hi Jono,
I'm sorry I haven't read and responded to your post until now, but as you know I've been going through a pretty rough time.I'm sorry your anxiety got so bad! There is nothing worse than anxiety; I think it's a lot harder to deal with than depression.
But I'm so glad you found a solution in the Risperdal!! Here's to it continuing to help for a long, long time!
Kat
Posted by europerep on November 25, 2012, at 13:39:16
In reply to Lou's response-wrizdheth » jono_in_adelaide, posted by Lou PIlder on November 23, 2012, at 10:37:30
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
LOL, do you even read the sites that you link to? Here's an extract from the above link:
"Death is typically found in multiple myeloma, dialysis, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, pain. It is a common side effect of Thalomid, Revlimid, Tracleer, Avandia, Trasylol. Death can be treated by Fluoxetine Hydrochloride."
Posted by schleprock on November 25, 2012, at 15:58:38
In reply to Re: Lou's response-wrizdheth » Lou PIlder, posted by europerep on November 25, 2012, at 13:39:16
> > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
>
> LOL, do you even read the sites that you link to? Here's an extract from the above link:
>
> "Death is typically found in multiple myeloma, dialysis, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, pain. It is a common side effect of Thalomid, Revlimid, Tracleer, Avandia, Trasylol. Death can be treated by Fluoxetine Hydrochloride."
>
>How embarrassing.
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2012, at 17:08:27
In reply to Re: Lou's response-wrizdheth, posted by schleprock on November 25, 2012, at 15:58:38
> > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> >
> > LOL, do you even read the sites that you link to? Here's an extract from the above link:
> >
> > "Death is typically found in multiple myeloma, dialysis, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, pain. It is a common side effect of Thalomid, Revlimid, Tracleer, Avandia, Trasylol. Death can be treated by Fluoxetine Hydrochloride."
> >
> >
>
> How embarrassing.euro_p and schleprock,
The statistics compilled by ehealthme are gathered from the fda and other regulatory agencies. The causality had already been determined by others. They are just the reporting the statistics.
There are statements like you posted throughout the site that do requier an explanation. I saw one that said did such and such a drug cause death of a parent.
You can contact the site and they will explain those type of statements as you posted here by you.
But there are other sites that collaborate the same statistics. Here is a site that shows the adverse events from Risperdal. The statistics come from the fda and here are he individual cases.
When this site comes up, you can get just the cases that resulted in death or any other result by clicking on the tab of such. YOu will see that the statements on the ehealthme site that are what you posted about here do not annul the fact that there were those deaths from Risperdal.
Lou
http://www.druglib.com/adverse-reactions_side-effects/risperdal
Posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2012, at 17:36:34
In reply to Lou's response-fdadeaths-Risperdal-individual case » schleprock, posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2012, at 17:08:27
> > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > >
> > > LOL, do you even read the sites that you link to? Here's an extract from the above link:
> > >
> > > "Death is typically found in multiple myeloma, dialysis, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, pain. It is a common side effect of Thalomid, Revlimid, Tracleer, Avandia, Trasylol. Death can be treated by Fluoxetine Hydrochloride."
> > >
> > >
> >
> > How embarrassing.
>
> euro_p and schleprock,
> The statistics compilled by ehealthme are gathered from the fda and other regulatory agencies. The causality had already been determined by others. They are just the reporting the statistics.
> There are statements like you posted throughout the site that do requier an explanation. I saw one that said did such and such a drug cause death of a parent.
> You can contact the site and they will explain those type of statements as you posted here by you.
> But there are other sites that collaborate the same statistics. Here is a site that shows the adverse events from Risperdal. The statistics come from the fda and here are he individual cases.
> When this site comes up, you can get just the cases that resulted in death or any other result by clicking on the tab of such. YOu will see that the statements on the ehealthme site that are what you posted about here do not annul the fact that there were those deaths from Risperdal.
> Lou
> http://www.druglib.com/adverse-reactions_side-effects/risperdalFriends,
Notice that the reported cases resulting in death were only from 2009 and 2010. The ehealthme site covers all years of reports and is updated continually. Is there an acceleration?
Lou
Posted by schleprock on November 25, 2012, at 19:23:22
In reply to Lou's response-deaths-Risperdal-09-10, posted by Lou Pilder on November 25, 2012, at 17:36:34
> > > > > http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
> > > >
> > > > LOL, do you even read the sites that you link to? Here's an extract from the above link:
> > > >
> > > > "Death is typically found in multiple myeloma, dialysis, multiple sclerosis, diabetes, pain. It is a common side effect of Thalomid, Revlimid, Tracleer, Avandia, Trasylol. Death can be treated by Fluoxetine Hydrochloride."
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > How embarrassing.
> >
> > euro_p and schleprock,
> > The statistics compilled by ehealthme are gathered from the fda and other regulatory agencies. The causality had already been determined by others. They are just the reporting the statistics.
> > There are statements like you posted throughout the site that do requier an explanation. I saw one that said did such and such a drug cause death of a parent.
> > You can contact the site and they will explain those type of statements as you posted here by you.
> > But there are other sites that collaborate the same statistics. Here is a site that shows the adverse events from Risperdal. The statistics come from the fda and here are he individual cases.
> > When this site comes up, you can get just the cases that resulted in death or any other result by clicking on the tab of such. YOu will see that the statements on the ehealthme site that are what you posted about here do not annul the fact that there were those deaths from Risperdal.
> > Lou
> > http://www.druglib.com/adverse-reactions_side-effects/risperdal
>
> Friends,
> Notice that the reported cases resulting in death were only from 2009 and 2010. The ehealthme site covers all years of reports and is updated continually. Is there an acceleration?
> LouDo you happen to know the statistics of death being successfully treated by Fluoxetine Hydrochloride?
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on November 26, 2012, at 0:12:28
In reply to Re: Lou's response-deaths-Risperdal-09-10 » Lou Pilder, posted by schleprock on November 25, 2012, at 19:23:22
Lou, rather than killing me psychotrophic drugs have prevented me from killing my self
Posted by ed_uk2010 on December 3, 2012, at 18:19:38
In reply to Re: Lou's response-wrizdheth, posted by schleprock on November 25, 2012, at 15:58:38
>"Death can be treated by Fluoxetine Hydrochloride."
Oh cool, another use for Prozac :D
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