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Posted by prettygoodpatient on November 20, 2012, at 19:05:23
Hello all,
I've been on a vast array of the atypical anti-psychotics for difficult-to-treat bipolar disorder. I'm starting Latuda tonight as the combination of Saphris and Risperdal that I've been on for a year just isn't cutting it. I'm missing time from work nearly every week and I've finally reached the point where I'm willing to give another medication a try - with all the good and bad that can bring.Anyone have any words of wisdom about Latuda? I've read what I can google and am not seeing anything that strikes me as particularly good or bad but my doctor says it's a great drug. Anyone with personal experience?
Thanks in advance.
PGP
Saphris, Risperdal, Depakote, Klonopin
Posted by rjlockhart37 on November 20, 2012, at 19:47:08
In reply to starting Latuda tonight, any advice appreciated, posted by prettygoodpatient on November 20, 2012, at 19:05:23
i've never had a experience with it....it does block dopamine so that means slower thoughts in a sense....calmer. I have no idea if its activation or sedation it causes....but the best awnser i can give is that it may calm thoughts, a wild guess.
There's a med called Clozapine that's used in resistant cases but.....its usally used in schizophrenia, but still it would defintelty calm manic, agitated thoughts, its just doctors don't use it right away....
what dose are going to take?
Posted by prettygoodpatient on November 20, 2012, at 19:53:39
In reply to Re: starting Latuda tonight, any advice appreciated, posted by rjlockhart37 on November 20, 2012, at 19:47:08
I'm starting at 40 and halving my Saphris unless I'm really sedated in the morning at which point I'll drop the Saphris altogether. Top dose of the Latuda is 80. Keeping Risperdal the same for now (1 - 1.5 daily).
Posted by Phillipa on November 20, 2012, at 22:36:03
In reply to Re: starting Latuda tonight, any advice appreciated, posted by prettygoodpatient on November 20, 2012, at 19:53:39
Have you googled the archieves to see if other posters on this site have used latuda? Best of luck Phillipa
Posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 4:43:31
In reply to starting Latuda tonight, any advice appreciated, posted by prettygoodpatient on November 20, 2012, at 19:05:23
> Hello all,
> I've been on a vast array of the atypical anti-psychotics for difficult-to-treat bipolar disorder. I'm starting Latuda tonight as the combination of Saphris and Risperdal that I've been on for a year just isn't cutting it. I'm missing time from work nearly every week and I've finally reached the point where I'm willing to give another medication a try - with all the good and bad that can bring.
>
> Anyone have any words of wisdom about Latuda? I've read what I can google and am not seeing anything that strikes me as particularly good or bad but my doctor says it's a great drug. Anyone with personal experience?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> PGP
> Saphris, Risperdal, Depakote, Klonopin
>
p_g_p,
You wrote,[...any advice appeciated...].
The chemicals in the drugs that you are taking could cause death. And if not, then siezures, psychosis, hallucinations, tardive dyskinesia and other life-ruining conditions including addiction.
And people do kill themselves and/or others in the withdrawal phase. I am prevented from posting a way that has been revealed to me to bring you out of the darkness of depression and death and into a marvelous light of life and peace due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
It is inconceivable to me that a doctor/psychiatrist would prescribe those drugs together to you, for they could cause sudden death. I have done a computation of the chances of death by those drugs so as to know the chance of you living. And chances are your chances are very slim. You see, the drugs together act on the nerves going to the heart and could cause the heart to malfunction, leading to sudden death. What benefit outweighs that risk?
Now you may see all kinds of hatred posted toward me here including scapegoating that is allowed by Mr Hsiung to go on and on. And there are antisemitic statements allowed to stand here that could also defame me so that you may have disagreeable feelings or opinions toward me here. And you may see that Mr Hsiung refers to me as The Prince of Death. I am not the Prince of Death and the phrase is a perversion of The Prince of Peace that the Jews have in the scriptures that they use. You want suggestions?
A. Go to the psychiatrist/doctor that prescribed the drugs and ask if them taken together could cause death.
B. If you do not want to be killed by the drugs, ask how you could have a way out from the drugs.
C. If you are told that the withdrawal could be horrific, ask then why you were prescribed he drugs
D. other good and just questions
Lou
Posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 5:05:07
In reply to Lou's response-toardepoin » prettygoodpatient, posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 4:43:31
> > Hello all,
> > I've been on a vast array of the atypical anti-psychotics for difficult-to-treat bipolar disorder. I'm starting Latuda tonight as the combination of Saphris and Risperdal that I've been on for a year just isn't cutting it. I'm missing time from work nearly every week and I've finally reached the point where I'm willing to give another medication a try - with all the good and bad that can bring.
> >
> > Anyone have any words of wisdom about Latuda? I've read what I can google and am not seeing anything that strikes me as particularly good or bad but my doctor says it's a great drug. Anyone with personal experience?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > PGP
> > Saphris, Risperdal, Depakote, Klonopin
> >
> p_g_p,
> You wrote,[...any advice appeciated...].
> The chemicals in the drugs that you are taking could cause death. And if not, then siezures, psychosis, hallucinations, tardive dyskinesia and other life-ruining conditions including addiction.
> And people do kill themselves and/or others in the withdrawal phase. I am prevented from posting a way that has been revealed to me to bring you out of the darkness of depression and death and into a marvelous light of life and peace due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
> It is inconceivable to me that a doctor/psychiatrist would prescribe those drugs together to you, for they could cause sudden death. I have done a computation of the chances of death by those drugs so as to know the chance of you living. And chances are your chances are very slim. You see, the drugs together act on the nerves going to the heart and could cause the heart to malfunction, leading to sudden death. What benefit outweighs that risk?
> Now you may see all kinds of hatred posted toward me here including scapegoating that is allowed by Mr Hsiung to go on and on. And there are antisemitic statements allowed to stand here that could also defame me so that you may have disagreeable feelings or opinions toward me here. And you may see that Mr Hsiung refers to me as The Prince of Death. I am not the Prince of Death and the phrase is a perversion of The Prince of Peace that the Jews have in the scriptures that they use. You want suggestions?
> A. Go to the psychiatrist/doctor that prescribed the drugs and ask if them taken together could cause death.
> B. If you do not want to be killed by the drugs, ask how you could have a way out from the drugs.
> C. If you are told that the withdrawal could be horrific, ask then why you were prescribed he drugs
> D. other good and just questions
> Loup_g_p,
Now the chances are of death have been compiled by experts in the field of probability and causation. You may see others that may want to sway you to not belive the statistics arrived a by ehealthme. But notice that causation is what is listed by ehealthme. Thestats come from the FDA and other reulatory agencies and causation has been determined, for you will see here as to if the drug causes death. But the combination increases the chances, and when there are mukltiple drugs of the ame class of chemical, ya got trouble, my friend
Lou
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/risperdal/death
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/saphris/death
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/latuda/death
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/klonopin/death
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/depakote/death
Posted by prettygoodpatient on November 21, 2012, at 8:50:16
In reply to Re: starting Latuda tonight, any advice appreciated » prettygoodpatient, posted by Phillipa on November 20, 2012, at 22:36:03
> Have you googled the archieves to see if other posters on this site have used latuda? Best of luck Phillipa
Thanks, Phillipa. I figured out how to do that and found some good posts. Appreciate your input.
Posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 19:20:28
In reply to Lou's response-toardepoin » prettygoodpatient, posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 4:43:31
> > Hello all,
> > I've been on a vast array of the atypical anti-psychotics for difficult-to-treat bipolar disorder. I'm starting Latuda tonight as the combination of Saphris and Risperdal that I've been on for a year just isn't cutting it. I'm missing time from work nearly every week and I've finally reached the point where I'm willing to give another medication a try - with all the good and bad that can bring.
> >
> > Anyone have any words of wisdom about Latuda? I've read what I can google and am not seeing anything that strikes me as particularly good or bad but my doctor says it's a great drug. Anyone with personal experience?
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> > PGP
> > Saphris, Risperdal, Depakote, Klonopin
> >
> p_g_p,
> You wrote,[...any advice appeciated...].
> The chemicals in the drugs that you are taking could cause death. And if not, then siezures, psychosis, hallucinations, tardive dyskinesia and other life-ruining conditions including addiction.
> And people do kill themselves and/or others in the withdrawal phase. I am prevented from posting a way that has been revealed to me to bring you out of the darkness of depression and death and into a marvelous light of life and peace due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
> It is inconceivable to me that a doctor/psychiatrist would prescribe those drugs together to you, for they could cause sudden death. I have done a computation of the chances of death by those drugs so as to know the chance of you living. And chances are your chances are very slim. You see, the drugs together act on the nerves going to the heart and could cause the heart to malfunction, leading to sudden death. What benefit outweighs that risk?
> Now you may see all kinds of hatred posted toward me here including scapegoating that is allowed by Mr Hsiung to go on and on. And there are antisemitic statements allowed to stand here that could also defame me so that you may have disagreeable feelings or opinions toward me here. And you may see that Mr Hsiung refers to me as The Prince of Death. I am not the Prince of Death and the phrase is a perversion of The Prince of Peace that the Jews have in the scriptures that they use. You want suggestions?
> A. Go to the psychiatrist/doctor that prescribed the drugs and ask if them taken together could cause death.
> B. If you do not want to be killed by the drugs, ask how you could have a way out from the drugs.
> C. If you are told that the withdrawal could be horrific, ask then why you were prescribed he drugs
> D. other good and just questions
> Loup_g_p,
Another thing that you could do to educatre yourself is to use the following drug interaction checker. To use this bring up Drugs.com by typing in www.drugs.com
Yoiu will see on the top drug interactions and actuate that feature of the site and fill in the names of all of the drugs and that site will give you the interactions.
http://www.drugs.com
Lou
Posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 20:00:39
In reply to Lou's response-intrakshun, posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 19:20:28
> > > Hello all,
> > > I've been on a vast array of the atypical anti-psychotics for difficult-to-treat bipolar disorder. I'm starting Latuda tonight as the combination of Saphris and Risperdal that I've been on for a year just isn't cutting it. I'm missing time from work nearly every week and I've finally reached the point where I'm willing to give another medication a try - with all the good and bad that can bring.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any words of wisdom about Latuda? I've read what I can google and am not seeing anything that strikes me as particularly good or bad but my doctor says it's a great drug. Anyone with personal experience?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > PGP
> > > Saphris, Risperdal, Depakote, Klonopin
> > >
> > p_g_p,
> > You wrote,[...any advice appeciated...].
> > The chemicals in the drugs that you are taking could cause death. And if not, then siezures, psychosis, hallucinations, tardive dyskinesia and other life-ruining conditions including addiction.
> > And people do kill themselves and/or others in the withdrawal phase. I am prevented from posting a way that has been revealed to me to bring you out of the darkness of depression and death and into a marvelous light of life and peace due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
> > It is inconceivable to me that a doctor/psychiatrist would prescribe those drugs together to you, for they could cause sudden death. I have done a computation of the chances of death by those drugs so as to know the chance of you living. And chances are your chances are very slim. You see, the drugs together act on the nerves going to the heart and could cause the heart to malfunction, leading to sudden death. What benefit outweighs that risk?
> > Now you may see all kinds of hatred posted toward me here including scapegoating that is allowed by Mr Hsiung to go on and on. And there are antisemitic statements allowed to stand here that could also defame me so that you may have disagreeable feelings or opinions toward me here. And you may see that Mr Hsiung refers to me as The Prince of Death. I am not the Prince of Death and the phrase is a perversion of The Prince of Peace that the Jews have in the scriptures that they use. You want suggestions?
> > A. Go to the psychiatrist/doctor that prescribed the drugs and ask if them taken together could cause death.
> > B. If you do not want to be killed by the drugs, ask how you could have a way out from the drugs.
> > C. If you are told that the withdrawal could be horrific, ask then why you were prescribed he drugs
> > D. other good and just questions
> > Lou
>
> p_g_p,
> Another thing that you could do to educatre yourself is to use the following drug interaction checker. To use this bring up Drugs.com by typing in www.drugs.com
> Yoiu will see on the top drug interactions and actuate that feature of the site and fill in the names of all of the drugs and that site will give you the interactions.
> http://www.drugs.com
> Loup_g_p,
If you check the interactions, notice the drugs that cause cns depression. Because they are combined, there is the risk hightened of the heart slowing down which could cause sudden death. And there could be respiratory failure from the same combination of cns depressants. And if you have a drink, even a beer, that could cause death. I read of a case here recently where a lady was given one oxycontin by a friend. The friend did not know she had a drink. She went to bed and did not wake up. You see, there is a numerical factor when drugs are combined. And with all the cns depressants that you are taking, along with the others, this multiple increases the chances of heart or respiratory failure and sudden death in ways that are unknown and one takes a great chance of death when these drugs are taken together.
Now the addictive potential of the combination of drugs is also incrfeased. And the risk of movement disorders such as tardive dyskinesia is also. So another suggestion could be to show the interaction checker to your prescriber and see what can be done to prevent sudden death and addiction and tardive dyskinesia.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on November 21, 2012, at 20:11:11
In reply to Re: starting Latuda tonight, any advice appreciated, posted by prettygoodpatient on November 21, 2012, at 8:50:16
I'm glad you found some links in the archieves. Work around the other posts. Phillipa
Posted by Lou PIlder on November 22, 2012, at 10:04:00
In reply to Lou's response-cns deprez, posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 20:00:39
> > > > Hello all,
> > > > I've been on a vast array of the atypical anti-psychotics for difficult-to-treat bipolar disorder. I'm starting Latuda tonight as the combination of Saphris and Risperdal that I've been on for a year just isn't cutting it. I'm missing time from work nearly every week and I've finally reached the point where I'm willing to give another medication a try - with all the good and bad that can bring.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have any words of wisdom about Latuda? I've read what I can google and am not seeing anything that strikes me as particularly good or bad but my doctor says it's a great drug. Anyone with personal experience?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > PGP
> > > > Saphris, Risperdal, Depakote, Klonopin
> > > >
> > > p_g_p,
> > > You wrote,[...any advice appeciated...].
> > > The chemicals in the drugs that you are taking could cause death. And if not, then siezures, psychosis, hallucinations, tardive dyskinesia and other life-ruining conditions including addiction.
> > > And people do kill themselves and/or others in the withdrawal phase. I am prevented from posting a way that has been revealed to me to bring you out of the darkness of depression and death and into a marvelous light of life and peace due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
> > > It is inconceivable to me that a doctor/psychiatrist would prescribe those drugs together to you, for they could cause sudden death. I have done a computation of the chances of death by those drugs so as to know the chance of you living. And chances are your chances are very slim. You see, the drugs together act on the nerves going to the heart and could cause the heart to malfunction, leading to sudden death. What benefit outweighs that risk?
> > > Now you may see all kinds of hatred posted toward me here including scapegoating that is allowed by Mr Hsiung to go on and on. And there are antisemitic statements allowed to stand here that could also defame me so that you may have disagreeable feelings or opinions toward me here. And you may see that Mr Hsiung refers to me as The Prince of Death. I am not the Prince of Death and the phrase is a perversion of The Prince of Peace that the Jews have in the scriptures that they use. You want suggestions?
> > > A. Go to the psychiatrist/doctor that prescribed the drugs and ask if them taken together could cause death.
> > > B. If you do not want to be killed by the drugs, ask how you could have a way out from the drugs.
> > > C. If you are told that the withdrawal could be horrific, ask then why you were prescribed he drugs
> > > D. other good and just questions
> > > Lou
> >
> > p_g_p,
> > Another thing that you could do to educatre yourself is to use the following drug interaction checker. To use this bring up Drugs.com by typing in www.drugs.com
> > Yoiu will see on the top drug interactions and actuate that feature of the site and fill in the names of all of the drugs and that site will give you the interactions.
> > http://www.drugs.com
> > Lou
>
> p_g_p,
> If you check the interactions, notice the drugs that cause cns depression. Because they are combined, there is the risk hightened of the heart slowing down which could cause sudden death. And there could be respiratory failure from the same combination of cns depressants. And if you have a drink, even a beer, that could cause death. I read of a case here recently where a lady was given one oxycontin by a friend. The friend did not know she had a drink. She went to bed and did not wake up. You see, there is a numerical factor when drugs are combined. And with all the cns depressants that you are taking, along with the others, this multiple increases the chances of heart or respiratory failure and sudden death in ways that are unknown and one takes a great chance of death when these drugs are taken together.
> Now the addictive potential of the combination of drugs is also incrfeased. And the risk of movement disorders such as tardive dyskinesia is also. So another suggestion could be to show the interaction checker to your prescriber and see what can be done to prevent sudden death and addiction and tardive dyskinesia.
> LouFriends,
If you see posts here that promote mind-altering drugs from one point of view, just remember whose lives have been ruined that have not been seen by you. So if you are thinking of taking home this drug from the pharmacy, parents,save the last post for me.
Now you parents that want to know about these drugs as to the other side, there is another realm that tells a picture that I can't hide. So if you want to know what your child could have in store for them permanently, parents, save the last post for me.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGjA681hLU0
Posted by schleprock on November 24, 2012, at 16:28:48
In reply to Lou's response-intrakshun, posted by Lou PIlder on November 21, 2012, at 19:20:28
> > > Hello all,
> > > I've been on a vast array of the atypical anti-psychotics for difficult-to-treat bipolar disorder. I'm starting Latuda tonight as the combination of Saphris and Risperdal that I've been on for a year just isn't cutting it. I'm missing time from work nearly every week and I've finally reached the point where I'm willing to give another medication a try - with all the good and bad that can bring.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any words of wisdom about Latuda? I've read what I can google and am not seeing anything that strikes me as particularly good or bad but my doctor says it's a great drug. Anyone with personal experience?
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > PGP
> > > Saphris, Risperdal, Depakote, Klonopin
> > >
> > p_g_p,
> > You wrote,[...any advice appeciated...].
> > The chemicals in the drugs that you are taking could cause death. And if not, then siezures, psychosis, hallucinations, tardive dyskinesia and other life-ruining conditions including addiction.
> > And people do kill themselves and/or others in the withdrawal phase. I am prevented from posting a way that has been revealed to me to bring you out of the darkness of depression and death and into a marvelous light of life and peace due to prohibitions posted to me here by Mr Hsiung.
> > It is inconceivable to me that a doctor/psychiatrist would prescribe those drugs together to you, for they could cause sudden death. I have done a computation of the chances of death by those drugs so as to know the chance of you living. And chances are your chances are very slim. You see, the drugs together act on the nerves going to the heart and could cause the heart to malfunction, leading to sudden death. What benefit outweighs that risk?
> > Now you may see all kinds of hatred posted toward me here including scapegoating that is allowed by Mr Hsiung to go on and on. And there are antisemitic statements allowed to stand here that could also defame me so that you may have disagreeable feelings or opinions toward me here. And you may see that Mr Hsiung refers to me as The Prince of Death. I am not the Prince of Death and the phrase is a perversion of The Prince of Peace that the Jews have in the scriptures that they use. You want suggestions?
> > A. Go to the psychiatrist/doctor that prescribed the drugs and ask if them taken together could cause death.
> > B. If you do not want to be killed by the drugs, ask how you could have a way out from the drugs.
> > C. If you are told that the withdrawal could be horrific, ask then why you were prescribed he drugs
> > D. other good and just questions
> > Lou
>
> p_g_p,
> Another thing that you could do to educatre yourself is to use the following drug interaction checker. To use this bring up Drugs.com by typing in www.drugs.com
> Yoiu will see on the top drug interactions and actuate that feature of the site and fill in the names of all of the drugs and that site will give you the interactions.
> http://www.drugs.com
> LouWELCOME BACK LOU!!!
Lou, I was always curious if drugs.com has a category above "major" for drug interactions? I figure you would be the one to know if it did.
Posted by ChicagoKat on November 28, 2012, at 12:43:42
In reply to Re: Lou's response-intrakshun » Lou PIlder, posted by schleprock on November 24, 2012, at 16:28:48
Schleprock, you made me chuckle, and I really needed it. Thanks so much :)
To OP: I have no advice I guess b/c all the antipsychotics, typical or atypical give me akathisia which is a nightmare. But I do wish you luck...I sympathize with you b/c I seem to get anxiety or agitation with anything that helps my depression. So it's like which am I gonna pick: anxiety or depression. I know you know it's amazingly frustrating. Good luck to you.
Kat
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