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Posted by ChicagoKat on October 2, 2012, at 9:08:07
Even when the washout is over, things still suck. I took my first Nardil today Yay!! But I still found myself crying like a baby in the bathtub this morning. Of course I know it's gonna take time, but we have to remember, people still need support even after washouts are done.
Kat
Posted by phillipa on October 2, 2012, at 10:22:53
In reply to We know washouts suck, but...., posted by ChicagoKat on October 2, 2012, at 9:08:07
You are a brave lady. I would not have the guts to try an maoi. Besides too old. Phillipa
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 2, 2012, at 10:45:37
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but.... » ChicagoKat, posted by phillipa on October 2, 2012, at 10:22:53
> You are a brave lady. I would not have the guts to try an maoi. Besides too old. Phillipa
Thanks for the compliment Phillipa, but I'm not feeling very brave right now. I feel hopelessly depressed.. Feel like I'll never make it to the point where the Nardil helps me. Plus, I've just learned that my beloved pdoc's office does not accept the damned insurance my husband's company has just switched to. I don't know what to do, whether I should pay for the visits out of pocket, or if I should take my chances with someone new, which I REALLY don't want to do. I LOVE my pdoc. I feel like everything sucks right now and I just want to cry forever. Thanks for listening; I didn't mean to dump all that on you.
Sad Kat
Posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 13:54:06
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but.... » phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on October 2, 2012, at 10:45:37
> > You are a brave lady. I would not have the guts to try an maoi. Besides too old. Phillipa
>
> Thanks for the compliment Phillipa, but I'm not feeling very brave right now. I feel hopelessly depressed.. Feel like I'll never make it to the point where the Nardil helps me. Plus, I've just learned that my beloved pdoc's office does not accept the damned insurance my husband's company has just switched to. I don't know what to do, whether I should pay for the visits out of pocket, or if I should take my chances with someone new, which I REALLY don't want to do. I LOVE my pdoc. I feel like everything sucks right now and I just want to cry forever. Thanks for listening; I didn't mean to dump all that on you.
> Sad Kat
Please continue to post how you are feeling. If you feel yourself getting suicidal, there are options for using certain drugs as temporary "bridges" until the antidepressants kick-in. Zyprexa probably works best, and can bring relief within 24 hours. It actually works pretty well with Nardil.You will get through this difficult period. I know that while you are in the midst of depression, it seems that there will be no end. However, intellectually, you know better.
Hang in there.
- Scott
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 17:50:16
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but.... » ChicagoKat, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 13:54:06
Not long and you'll start to feel better Kat.... I know its damned hard in the mean time.
Have you got your scirp for nortriptyline yet?
You have a lot of people here wishing you well... if you ever ned to talk, we're all here
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 2, 2012, at 18:12:27
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but.... » ChicagoKat, posted by SLS on October 2, 2012, at 13:54:06
> > > You are a brave lady. I would not have the guts to try an maoi. Besides too old. Phillipa
> >
> > Thanks for the compliment Phillipa, but I'm not feeling very brave right now. I feel hopelessly depressed.. Feel like I'll never make it to the point where the Nardil helps me. Plus, I've just learned that my beloved pdoc's office does not accept the damned insurance my husband's company has just switched to. I don't know what to do, whether I should pay for the visits out of pocket, or if I should take my chances with someone new, which I REALLY don't want to do. I LOVE my pdoc. I feel like everything sucks right now and I just want to cry forever. Thanks for listening; I didn't mean to dump all that on you.
> > Sad Kat
>
>
> Please continue to post how you are feeling. If you feel yourself getting suicidal, there are options for using certain drugs as temporary "bridges" until the antidepressants kick-in. Zyprexa probably works best, and can bring relief within 24 hours. It actually works pretty well with Nardil.
>
> You will get through this difficult period. I know that while you are in the midst of depression, it seems that there will be no end. However, intellectually, you know better.
>
> Hang in there.
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> - ScottThank you Scott :) Feeling a bit better, and just took my first Nortryp. took the first Nardil this morning.
Kat
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 2, 2012, at 18:14:58
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but...., posted by jono_in_adelaide on October 2, 2012, at 17:50:16
> Not long and you'll start to feel better Kat.... I know its damned hard in the mean time.
>
> Have you got your scirp for nortriptyline yet?
>
> You have a lot of people here wishing you well... if you ever ned to talk, we're all hereThanks so much Jono. You are so nice. And damned smart to boot :) Yep just took my first Nortryp. took my first Nardil this morning. Now I just have to wait wil I can take more in a week...damn, wish it could go faster! Anyways, as you can tell, am feeling better. Thanks again, and btw, how's day1 of the diet going? ;)
Kat
Posted by brynb on October 2, 2012, at 19:41:33
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but.... » phillipa, posted by ChicagoKat on October 2, 2012, at 10:45:37
> > You are a brave lady. I would not have the guts to try an maoi. Besides too old. Phillipa
>
> Thanks for the compliment Phillipa, but I'm not feeling very brave right now. I feel hopelessly depressed.. Feel like I'll never make it to the point where the Nardil helps me. Plus, I've just learned that my beloved pdoc's office does not accept the damned insurance my husband's company has just switched to. I don't know what to do, whether I should pay for the visits out of pocket, or if I should take my chances with someone new, which I REALLY don't want to do. I LOVE my pdoc. I feel like everything sucks right now and I just want to cry forever. Thanks for listening; I didn't mean to dump all that on you.
> Sad KatHi Kat-
Hope things are getting a bit better. Just wanted to chime in: I think you should definitely stay with your current pdoc, despite the insurance issue. As I'm sure you know, finding someone who is really good is a major challenge. Plus, he knows you and your history. Having to find a new doc is exhausting, costly and stressful. Hopefully you can pay out of pocket to see your doc and maybe he'll even negotiate a fee with you.
Good luck!
Posted by phillipa on October 2, 2012, at 20:34:19
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but.... » ChicagoKat, posted by brynb on October 2, 2012, at 19:41:33
I agree if you can afford out of pocket stick with the pdoc you work so well with and remember he knows you. Also you say you feel a bit better already so no side effects? Phillipa
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 3, 2012, at 9:24:09
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but...., posted by phillipa on October 2, 2012, at 20:34:19
> I agree if you can afford out of pocket stick with the pdoc you work so well with and remember he knows you. Also you say you feel a bit better already so no side effects? Phillipa
Thank you all for your support. I am feeling a bit better :)
Sigh, I had decided I would change pdocs after all; saw him yesterday, and he told me he knew of someone who met all my criteria (someone who is a maverick, someone who will listen to my ideas, and someone who is incredibly kind..all of which describe him)...anyways, he was gonna check if she took my new insurance and let me know. But now you all have me doubting my decision and thinking maybe I should stay with him. My husband thinks I should stay with him, he says we can afford it, but I'm of the opinion we should save as much money as we can, especially since i'm not working now.Sigh, it's a conundrum.
Kat
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 3, 2012, at 9:26:01
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but...., posted by phillipa on October 2, 2012, at 20:34:19
Last thought: I suppose I could try the new pdoc and if I don't like her, I could always go back to my good old pdoc and pay out of pocket. Maybe that's what I'll do.
Thanks!
Kat
Posted by phillipa on October 3, 2012, at 20:35:15
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but...., posted by ChicagoKat on October 3, 2012, at 9:26:01
Kat I agree with your husband you can afford to pay out of pocket. Stick with the tried and true. Another possibility is you will become confused if one says one thing and other something else. Money is not all. Lose your health you have Nothing. Phillipa
Posted by ChicagoKat on October 4, 2012, at 10:21:21
In reply to Re: We know washouts suck, but.... » ChicagoKat, posted by phillipa on October 3, 2012, at 20:35:15
> Kat I agree with your husband you can afford to pay out of pocket. Stick with the tried and true. Another possibility is you will become confused if one says one thing and other something else. Money is not all. Lose your health you have Nothing. Phillipa
Thanks for the advice Phillipa. I am still mullling over my decision. I did have one thought that a different doctor might have different ideas and it couldn't hurt to try her out. I can always go back to my beloved pdoc if that idea does not pan out. One piece of good news: even though I'm only on 15mg of Nardil per day at this point, already I'm experiencing a positive effect; my anxiety is practically gone, and I've noticed I'm starting to feel a bit more positive. I can now focus on a book (I love to read), and that's always a GOOD indicator of improvement of my mood. Thanks again.
Kat
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