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Posted by cee on September 14, 2012, at 20:27:22
hello people
just found out after four years my seroquel is giving me bad side effects ,sore eye muscles, bad headaches, hard to focus eyes, dizzy ness, i thought i had caught a virus but the doctors have ruled it out.i just want to crawl into a hole and disapear not a bad idea cee
Posted by Phillipa on September 14, 2012, at 23:01:19
In reply to starting over again -how do we do it sometimes?, posted by cee on September 14, 2012, at 20:27:22
Cee what are you switching to? If another atypical antipsychotic was talking to pharmacist today and she said that abilify was good and also that medicare pays for it so I'd imagine most insurances also pay. Phillipa
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on September 15, 2012, at 4:04:19
In reply to starting over again -how do we do it sometimes?, posted by cee on September 14, 2012, at 20:27:22
Geodon is a good drug, and it has a very low risk of causing metabolic syndrome.
In Australia, Risperdel and Seroquel are now generic, the price to the national health scheme has dropped from about $300 per month to about $30 per month, and I'm guessing the rest wont have much time on patent left
Posted by Cee on September 15, 2012, at 12:55:20
In reply to Re: starting over again -how do we do it sometimes? » cee, posted by Phillipa on September 14, 2012, at 23:01:19
Thanks for the info. Thinking about taking Prozac while I come off seroquel. Dr says it is a good med to hold off the depression while I come off the depression. Thanks to the people that answered my post it is very helpful
Better days
See
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 15:06:10
In reply to starting over again -how do we do it sometimes?, posted by cee on September 14, 2012, at 20:27:22
> hello people
> just found out after four years my seroquel is giving me bad side effects ,sore eye muscles, bad headaches, hard to focus eyes, dizzy ness, i thought i had caught a virus but the doctors have ruled it out.i just want to crawl into a hole and disapear not a bad idea ceecee,
You wrote,[...how do we do it... (start over)..?].
Before my next post here IO am requesting that those that would like to offer support to the poster, that you read the following article.
Lou
To see this article:
A. Bring up Google
B. Type in:
[Seroquel is widly used but with dangerous side effects]
For those that want to tell the poster to take mind-altering drugs, be advised that {support} and reinforcement} could have different understandings. And could not the drug that you advize, if you do so, also have serious long-term effects, or even near-term effects, including sudden death?
http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/seroquel/death
Posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 15:22:49
In reply to starting over again -how do we do it sometimes?, posted by cee on September 14, 2012, at 20:27:22
> hello people
> just found out after four years my seroquel is giving me bad side effects ,sore eye muscles, bad headaches, hard to focus eyes, dizzy ness, i thought i had caught a virus but the doctors have ruled it out.i just want to crawl into a hole and disapear not a bad idea cee
What were the symptoms of your illness before you started treatment?What is your current diagnosis?
Why did your doctor choose Seroquel?
Is intracranial hypertension a concern?
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 16:19:40
In reply to Lou's response-psairohquell » cee, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 15:06:10
> > hello people
> > just found out after four years my seroquel is giving me bad side effects ,sore eye muscles, bad headaches, hard to focus eyes, dizzy ness, i thought i had caught a virus but the doctors have ruled it out.i just want to crawl into a hole and disapear not a bad idea cee
>
> cee,
> You wrote,[...how do we do it... (start over)..?].
> Before my next post here IO am requesting that those that would like to offer support to the poster, that you read the following article.
> Lou
> To see this article:
> A. Bring up Google
> B. Type in:
> [Seroquel is widly used but with dangerous side effects]
> For those that want to tell the poster to take mind-altering drugs, be advised that {support} and reinforcement} could have different understandings. And could not the drug that you advize, if you do so, also have serious long-term effects, or even near-term effects, including sudden death?
> http://www.ehealthme.com/ds/seroquel/deathcee,
You wrote,[...how...start over...?].
Starting over could mean that you are in a situation that you do acknowledge that you are in a crossraods looking for a road to take.
But be advised that stopping seroquel could cause you to be in a life-threating situation. This is because stopping the drug can put you in a life-ruining condition. There are reports of people killing themselves during the withdrawal phase from psychotropic drugs. This is a critical time and be advised that I have never read of any {proven treatment} that gives a way to withdrawal from Seroquel by tapering or whatever the drug or adding drugs.
And what could be more disturbing is that I could help you overcome the potential of death or life-ruining condition that you could find yourself in, but I am prohibited here by prohibitions made to me by Mr Hsiung from posting that here. And what could be even more disturbing is that Mr Hsiung has drafted the rules here that he states will be good for this community as a whole. Be advised, that if you die because you are led to believe that taking mind-altering drugs is supported here by the administration as a way for you to overcome depression, axiety, and or addiction, that your death does not enter into if what Mr. Hsiung's thinking is concerning support untill the future, for he states that he does what in his thinking {will be} good for this communitty as a whole and to trust him in that. Do you know who also said that?
Now time will be the judge as to if the rules here that Mr. Hsiung has drafted {will be} good for this community as a whole. And if and when we get to that point in time to evaluate Mr. Hsiung's thinking on that, how many deaths will it take (redacted by respondent) before (redacted by respondent). You see, what I am prohibited from posting here IMHHHO could save your life. You see, I know of a way for you to be healed and overcome the withdrawal that you could find yourself in. But Mr. Hsiung's prohibitions to me here prevent me from posting that here. And that he says will be good for this community as a whole and to trust him. So could it not be logical to think that death could be good for this community as a whole? Could you think on that?
Now what could be more disturbing than that, is that there are posts that could arouse antisemitic feelings toward Jews and me as a Jew that are allowed to stand here. This could have an influence on people here IMO that read those posts as being supportive as Mr Hsiung's TOS states that support takes precedence and he does not wait to sanction a post because one match could start a forest fire. So is it not logical to think that if there are posts unsanctioned that could create hostility toward Jews and me as a Jew and these type of posts are allowed to stand, that it {will be} good for this community as a whole for people to be led to think that antisemitism is supportive?
So you can go down the road of drugs that others here could point you to if you like, and you could be influenced here by the fact that (redacted by respondent} and go on and on from one drug to another, having tardive dyskinesia, diabetes, and death follow you all the days of your life and you will {redacted by respondent}
Lou
Posted by cee on September 15, 2012, at 18:15:11
In reply to Lou's response-quantitiesequaltoeachother, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 16:19:40
wow you guys are scarry
cee
Posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 19:09:27
In reply to Re: Lou's response-quantitiesequaltoeachother, posted by cee on September 15, 2012, at 18:15:11
> wow you guys are scarry
> cee
What do you find scary?Are you less likely to post now?
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 20:15:41
In reply to Re: Lou's response-quantitiesequaltoeachother, posted by cee on September 15, 2012, at 18:15:11
> wow you guys are scarry
> ceecee,
I would like for you to be scared live person rather than a dead unscared person.
You see, the prohibitions to me here by Mr Hsiung, I think could cause people to die because what I could write that could save lives or prevent life-ruining conditions/addictions is prohibited by his rules that he has drafted. Now if there is not a free posting of facts, and facts are covered up by the nature of prohibitions as to what facts can or can not be posted here, then I think that is scary.
Here is a link from someone that also sees through the transparent attempt to (redacted by respondent)
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20110902/msgs/996161.html
Posted by Phillipa on September 15, 2012, at 20:55:04
In reply to Lou's response-skairedoffax » cee, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 20:15:41
Lou please stop. And don't ask me what. Change your persona again remember once you were asking simple questions to posters. I have one for you. What meds have you been on and do you take any now. Does the music in your head still bother you or did it disappear? Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 21:10:17
In reply to Re: Lou's response-skairedoffax » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on September 15, 2012, at 20:55:04
> Lou please stop. And don't ask me what. Change your persona again remember once you were asking simple questions to posters. I have one for you. What meds have you been on and do you take any now. Does the music in your head still bother you or did it disappear? Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...please stop. And don't ask me what...].
Now if I do not know what you want me to stop, how am I going to stop what you want me to stop?
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on September 15, 2012, at 21:22:36
In reply to Lou's reply-pstoppe » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 21:10:17
Lou an excellent question. Your have my email write me and we can talk okay? Phillipa
Posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 23:21:11
In reply to Lou's response-skairedoffax » cee, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 20:15:41
> > wow you guys are scarry
> > cee
>
> cee,
> I would like for you to be scared live person rather than a dead unscared person.
I'm sure most of us hope for Cee much more than living life in fear. I imagine that you do, too. I want Cee to be healthy and happy. I don't know how that will come to be, though. Perhaps you can suggest what to do in addition to what not to do. Are you prohibited from doing that? Is there not a single positive thing that you can suggest that is not prohibited by Dr. Bob for you to write here? Do you not believe in psychotherapy?
- Scott
Posted by Willful on September 16, 2012, at 0:45:21
In reply to Lou's reply-pstoppe » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on September 15, 2012, at 21:10:17
Lou, if you don't know what Phillipa means by now, it would be only because you don't acknowledge shared meanings..
Whatever your issues, if you don't acknowledge what everyone else here is fully aware of, you must not want to, or be unable to comprehend it.
Don't ask me what I mean. I mean no disrespect, and I hope you know what I mean; but if you don't I'm afraid I don't think you possibly could.
If you are scaring people here without affecting their choices, you are only doing harm. And I also fear that for an unknown number you are.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 16, 2012, at 8:24:52
In reply to Re: Lou's response-skairedoffax » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 15, 2012, at 23:21:11
> > > wow you guys are scarry
> > > cee
> >
> > cee,
> > I would like for you to be scared live person rather than a dead unscared person.
>
>
> I'm sure most of us hope for Cee much more than living life in fear. I imagine that you do, too. I want Cee to be healthy and happy. I don't know how that will come to be, though. Perhaps you can suggest what to do in addition to what not to do. Are you prohibited from doing that? Is there not a single positive thing that you can suggest that is not prohibited by Dr. Bob for you to write here? Do you not believe in psychotherapy?
>
>
> - Scott
The prohibitions to me here posted to me by Mr Hsiung prohibit me from posting what I think could save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions/addictions. This all involves the foundation od Judaism as revealed to me, that is prohibited by Mr Hsiung for me to post here.
Scott,
You wrote,[...Is there not a single positive thing thsat you can suggest that is not prohibited by (Mr Hsiung) for you to write here?..].
I am requesting that those that are considering posting in this thread to do a search on what is known a {anti-Judaism). A simple explanation could be seen by the search.[ anti-Judaism, wikipedia].
If discussants here could do that, and I was advised by them that they read such, then I could have the opportunity to explain here further knowing that discussants have an understanding of what anti-Judaism consists of.
Lou
Posted by schleprock on September 16, 2012, at 17:32:36
In reply to Lou's response-ahntiegewdhyizm » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 16, 2012, at 8:24:52
> > > > wow you guys are scarry
> > > > cee
> > >
> > > cee,
> > > I would like for you to be scared live person rather than a dead unscared person.
> >
> >
> > I'm sure most of us hope for Cee much more than living life in fear. I imagine that you do, too. I want Cee to be healthy and happy. I don't know how that will come to be, though. Perhaps you can suggest what to do in addition to what not to do. Are you prohibited from doing that? Is there not a single positive thing that you can suggest that is not prohibited by Dr. Bob for you to write here? Do you not believe in psychotherapy?
> >
> >
> > - Scott
> The prohibitions to me here posted to me by Mr Hsiung prohibit me from posting what I think could save lives, prevent life-ruining conditions/addictions. This all involves the foundation od Judaism as revealed to me, that is prohibited by Mr Hsiung for me to post here.
> Scott,
> You wrote,[...Is there not a single positive thing thsat you can suggest that is not prohibited by (Mr Hsiung) for you to write here?..].
> I am requesting that those that are considering posting in this thread to do a search on what is known a {anti-Judaism). A simple explanation could be seen by the search.[ anti-Judaism, wikipedia].
> If discussants here could do that, and I was advised by them that they read such, then I could have the opportunity to explain here further knowing that discussants have an understanding of what anti-Judaism consists of.
> Lou
>Lou,
You wrote [The prohibitions to me here posted to me by Mr Hsiung prohibit me ...]
I am unsure as to what you want the innitiator of this thread to do. If you could post answers to the following, then I could have the opportunbity to respond accordingly.
A. Who is Mr. Hsiung?
B. Is "Mr. Hsiung" the subject's real name, or is it just an alias?
C. Is Mr. Hsiung (a)a real person, or (b) an imaginary construct
D. (if answered (a) above) Is Mr. Hsiung alive or dead
E. Is Mr. Hsiung an anti-semite and\or an atheist
F. Are you Mr. Hsiung?
G. {redacted by respondant}schleprock
Posted by Phillipa on September 16, 2012, at 19:05:19
In reply to Re: schleprock's response-fuhgetaboutit » Lou Pilder, posted by schleprock on September 16, 2012, at 17:32:36
Very good questions. I'd also like the answers to. Especially are you Dr Bob? Phillipa
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