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Posted by Roslynn on September 10, 2012, at 12:32:13
Hi everyone,
I could not tolerate even 15mg of Nardil due to dizzines, so it's back to the drawing board. Any opinions on whether to try Parnate next? Or Marplan? Or will I run into the same problem with dizziness?? It has been brutal with me not even being able to drive, leave house, etc.
Thank you,
RoslynnP.S. Please do not hijack this thread, I really need an answer.
Posted by phidippus on September 10, 2012, at 13:50:51
In reply to If Nardil failed try Parnate?? or Marplan???, posted by Roslynn on September 10, 2012, at 12:32:13
Time to try something else. Parnate's a popular choice.
Eric
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on September 10, 2012, at 18:31:36
In reply to Re: If Nardil failed try Parnate?? or Marplan??? » Roslynn, posted by phidippus on September 10, 2012, at 13:50:51
Parnate, because its not a hydrazine (Nardil and Marplan both are)
Posted by Roslynn on September 11, 2012, at 11:24:46
In reply to Re: If Nardil failed try Parnate?? or Marplan???, posted by jono_in_adelaide on September 10, 2012, at 18:31:36
Dear Jono,
I could not tolerate the med more than a few days due to side effects. I never even took it long enough to see if it would work. Does that make a difference?
Roslynn
> Parnate, because its not a hydrazine (Nardil and Marplan both are)
Posted by bleauberry on September 11, 2012, at 12:28:38
In reply to If Nardil failed try Parnate?? or Marplan???, posted by Roslynn on September 10, 2012, at 12:32:13
Yes, try parnate. It still has dizziness issues, but not as intense as nardil.
Keep in mind, based on reports from people here, the dizziness thing lessens significantly over time. We're tallking months though, not days or weeks. Just know, the dizzy you felt, is not the same dizzy 9 months from now.
15mg sounds like it was too much to start with. If it had been me, I would have gone down to 7.5mg. We all want to be better like right now, but a long term outlook is the way real healing happens.
The highest dose of parnate I could handle when I started was 2.5mg....1/4 of the lowest dose. And it was plenty strong for me and worked pretty fast. I've learned over the years that whatever the directions are on the bottle, dose sizes, etc....garbage. There is no way whoever wrote those numbers could know you or predict your biology or your reaction. All that counts is.....what is your body trying to tell you? Listen. I hear it saying, 15mg nardil is too much to start with. It absolutely does not matter what a doctor says or a piece of literature says, but it absolutely does matter what your own body says.
Posted by Roslynn on September 11, 2012, at 15:13:32
In reply to Re: If Nardil failed try Parnate?? or Marplan???, posted by bleauberry on September 11, 2012, at 12:28:38
Bleauberry,
Thank you.
I'm sorry but how do people function in daily life with this type of dizziness? I was barely able to take a shower, haven't been outside in at least a week!
Trust me I would have started at 7.5 Nardil if I know it were possible. My pdoc knows how med-sensitive I am, so I assumed, wrongly so, that he was starting me on the lowest dose.
Thank you,
Roslynn> Yes, try parnate. It still has dizziness issues, but not as intense as nardil.
>
> Keep in mind, based on reports from people here, the dizziness thing lessens significantly over time. We're tallking months though, not days or weeks. Just know, the dizzy you felt, is not the same dizzy 9 months from now.
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> 15mg sounds like it was too much to start with. If it had been me, I would have gone down to 7.5mg. We all want to be better like right now, but a long term outlook is the way real healing happens.
>
> The highest dose of parnate I could handle when I started was 2.5mg....1/4 of the lowest dose. And it was plenty strong for me and worked pretty fast. I've learned over the years that whatever the directions are on the bottle, dose sizes, etc....garbage. There is no way whoever wrote those numbers could know you or predict your biology or your reaction. All that counts is.....what is your body trying to tell you? Listen. I hear it saying, 15mg nardil is too much to start with. It absolutely does not matter what a doctor says or a piece of literature says, but it absolutely does matter what your own body says.
>
>
Posted by jono_in_adelaide on September 11, 2012, at 18:10:10
In reply to Re: If Nardil failed try Parnate?? or Marplan???, posted by Roslynn on September 11, 2012, at 15:13:32
Try taking your MAOI of choice, and also taking a 0.1mf tablet of Florinef each morning (start this a few days before the MAIO)
It causes the body to retain sodium and fluid, and thus combats the dizziness
Posted by bleauberry on September 12, 2012, at 17:51:43
In reply to Re: If Nardil failed try Parnate?? or Marplan???, posted by Roslynn on September 11, 2012, at 15:13:32
> Trust me I would have started at 7.5 Nardil if I know it were possible. My pdoc knows how med-sensitive I am, so I assumed, wrongly so, that he was starting me on the lowest dose.
>Well I'm not sure but I don't think there is a 7.5mg dose. You would have to make your own. If it's a pill, cut or split to desired size. If capsule, the contents can be dumped out, divided into halves, thirds, quarters, whatever, and then either put into an empty gel capsule from a health food store or swallow with applesauce or something soft. Powder can also be stirred in juice. Especially if you already know you are med sensitive, it helps a lot to make custom doses.
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