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Posted by poser938 on December 6, 2011, at 3:42:54
my new psychiatrist suggested transcranial magnetic therapy to me for my permanent side effects i have from meds. he mentioned that this can actually reboot the brain. can it really do this somehow? i've tried researching it and the what info i have found, i dont really understand. and i cant find any people reporting their experiences on it.
does anyone on here know anything about this therapy?
Posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 6:20:07
In reply to transcranial magnetic stimulation reboots brain, posted by poser938 on December 6, 2011, at 3:42:54
It is supposed to give a jump-start to the brain's metabolism in the left frontal area and also to normalize the functioning of the hippocampus (lowering HPA over activity and thus excessive cortisol, which is very toxic to the hippocampus, and encouraging the birth of new cells - about 2000 new cells are created daily in the hippocampus during health, but this ceases during major depressive episodes).
If you are one of the 60% whom TMS helps (as I am), it can be a wonderful treatment. But most everyone needs repeat treatments (every few weeks or months) and the cost can become a major issue.
Posted by SLS on December 6, 2011, at 6:56:35
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation » poser938, posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 6:20:07
Hi Twin Leaf.
> If you are one of the 60% whom TMS helps (as I am), it can be a wonderful treatment. But most everyone needs repeat treatments (every few weeks or months) and the cost can become a major issue.
Is there a certain case profile that is most likely to respond or least likely respond to TMS?
Thanks.
- Scott
Posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 9:44:40
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation » Twin leaf, posted by SLS on December 6, 2011, at 6:56:35
This is an impression only, but I think depressions where stressors are a major issue ( with HPA over-activity) are more apt to respond than those which may have a stronger genetic component, such as the various forms of bipolar.
Posted by Phillipa on December 6, 2011, at 9:59:22
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation » SLS, posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 9:44:40
So there are two forms of depressions then. Some biological and some from life stressors only. I thought so as I know mine is from stress. As anxiety main feature. Guess medicaire doesn't pick up the tab for this one. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on December 6, 2011, at 10:26:19
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation » SLS, posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 9:44:40
> This is an impression only, but I think depressions where stressors are a major issue ( with HPA over-activity) are more apt to respond than those which may have a stronger genetic component, such as the various forms of bipolar.
Thanks for replying.
I hope that things are still okay with you.
- Scott
Posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 16:25:24
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation » Twin leaf, posted by SLS on December 6, 2011, at 10:26:19
The liabilities of TMS are that it's expensive, and, for most everyone, a temporary help that will need to be repeated.
The pluses can be quite strong. It apparently acts in several ways to help the brain return more closely to its pre-depression state, and, other than some pain during the treatments, there are no unwanted side-effects. Most of the major medical centers now offer it.
I think it is well worth a try for anyone who has not responded well to medication.
Posted by poser938 on December 6, 2011, at 16:44:43
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation, posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 16:25:24
well if it could return me to my "pre medication state" then that would be great.
i used to be able to function very well in society until i tried psychiatric meds. my brain is odd in that 90% of the time when i take an antidepressant or any other psychiatric med, the effect it has on my brain after taking it for a few weeks, doesnt go away after stopping it.
this may be because i was in a coma with encephalitis 10 years ago. and 75 percent of my brain was infected. so that may have modified my brain to where it doesnt return to normal after stopping a med.
Posted by SLS on December 6, 2011, at 16:52:48
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation, posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 16:25:24
By the way...
Nice to see you again.
- Scott
Posted by Twin leaf on December 6, 2011, at 17:01:20
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation » Twin leaf, posted by SLS on December 6, 2011, at 16:52:48
You too, Scott!
Posted by Count on December 8, 2011, at 16:04:17
In reply to Re: transcranial magnetic stimulation » Twin leaf, posted by Phillipa on December 6, 2011, at 9:59:22
> So there are two forms of depressions then. Some biological and some from life stressors only. I thought so as I know mine is from stress. As anxiety main feature. Guess medicaire doesn't pick up the tab for this one. Phillipa
Actually, Medicare has just released their reimbursement rates for TMS starting Jan 1. There is still a risk they will not pay for it though if they don't think its medically necessary. And most TMS providers still do not take insurance. Check with those in your area.
Posted by Kira Stein on December 11, 2011, at 14:20:12
In reply to transcranial magnetic stimulation reboots brain, posted by poser938 on December 6, 2011, at 3:42:54
TMS can be very helpful in patients who have not responded to, or who cannot tolerate, medications.
You can see video patient testimonials about their experiences with TMS, as well as get a sense of how TMS works, by clicking on these links:
http://www.westcoasttmsinstitute.com/testimonials-2/testimonials-tms-therapy/
http://www.westcoasttmsinstitute.com/
Good luck! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact us at 818-855-1694; West Coast TMS Institute is located in the Los Angeles area.
Posted by Kira Stein on December 11, 2011, at 14:24:32
In reply to transcranial magnetic stimulation reboots brain, posted by poser938 on December 6, 2011, at 3:42:54
TMS can be very helpful in patients who have not responded to, or who cannot tolerate, medications.
You can see video patient testimonials about their experiences with TMS, as well as get a sense of how TMS works, by clicking on these links:
http://www.westcoasttmsinstitute.com/testimonials-2/testimonials-tms-therapy/
http://www.westcoasttmsinstitute.com/
Good luck! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact us at 818-855-1694; West Coast TMS Institute is located in the Los Angeles area.
Posted by europerep on December 20, 2011, at 17:40:38
In reply to Re: Transcranial magnetic stimulation (TMS), posted by Kira Stein on December 11, 2011, at 14:20:12
LOL, is this board so far down that there is not even someone who is watching out to keep the board free from advertising?
What an embarrassment this board has become.
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