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Posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2011, at 13:19:30
Seems holistic docs here are using salivary neurotransmitter testing to establish what you many need or not need. Is this a scam or legitamite. My gut says a scam? Phillipa
Posted by torrid on May 27, 2011, at 18:49:51
In reply to Neurotransmitter testing via saliva accurate/scam?, posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2011, at 13:19:30
I wonder about that too, the sights I stumble on they want your urine wich sounds a little more plausable then saliva, even if is is scientificly accurate I'm not sure the infomation would be that useful. medication is just trial and error.
Posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2011, at 21:41:59
In reply to Re: Neurotransmitter testing via saliva accurate/scam? » Phillipa, posted by torrid on May 27, 2011, at 18:49:51
My own thoughts also before I paid big bucks that I don't have for this hormonal nutritional doc. I saw the same as you with urine googling last night. Phillipa
Posted by bleauberry on May 28, 2011, at 19:12:05
In reply to Neurotransmitter testing via saliva accurate/scam?, posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2011, at 13:19:30
Urine or saliva doesn't matter, the problem is the test measures metabolites of neurotransmitters and then attempts to translate that into actual neurotransmitter measurements. That has a variety of unsubstantiated assumptions and potential for error. Assuming it was 100% accurate, that still doesn't tell us anything useful. There is no clue as to what the receptor health is, other substances competing for the same spot, genetics, and stuff. My test showed very low serotonin. But I found various strategies of increasing serotonin to be either unhelpful, problematic, or worsened my condition. So I concluded that somewhere in the interpretation of such tests, this one was wrong. Or assuming it was right, it did not accurately predict that additional serotonin would be a bad thing for me.
There's just too much we don't know about an immensely complicated organ, so I don't see that test as being extremely useful. Maybe somewhat useful to some people though. I still find mine interesting and I ponder why the results were what they were. So I don't regret doing the test.
Posted by Phillipa on May 28, 2011, at 21:34:35
In reply to Re: Neurotransmitter testing via saliva accurate/scam?, posted by bleauberry on May 28, 2011, at 19:12:05
So yours showed low on serotonin and it made it worse. I decided when looked at cost and visits no way could afford this doc anyway. Using the bioidentical hormones as the back pain horrible and do have -3.1 dexa hips and the osteoporosis range on spine with the S curvature. In all seriousness what would you do? I need to remain active and hurts so bad. If motrin now causes heart disease what do you do? I had decided to go with bioidenticals as creams compounded at the RX. Thanks Phillipa
Posted by 49er on May 30, 2011, at 10:57:46
In reply to Neurotransmitter testing via saliva accurate/scam?, posted by Phillipa on May 27, 2011, at 13:19:30
> Seems holistic docs here are using salivary neurotransmitter testing to establish what you many need or not need. Is this a scam or legitamite. My gut says a scam? Phillipa
Hi Philipa,
I won't say it is a scam but the medical professionasl I know tell me the only way the neurotransmitters can be measured accurately is when you're dead.
Also, this isn't like measuring insulin since neurotransmitter levels in the body fluctuate constantly.
49er
Posted by Phillipa on May 30, 2011, at 22:06:26
In reply to Re: Neurotransmitter testing via saliva accurate/scam? » Phillipa, posted by 49er on May 30, 2011, at 10:57:46
49er exactly my thinking even Alzheimers no true dx till post-mortem guess work before. And neurotransmitters like hormones ranging from thyroid to, adrenal, to bioidenticals so basically back to guess work. Phillipa
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