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Posted by SLS on January 17, 2011, at 11:49:38
I have an interesting idea.
Since Dr. Bob is not here to moderate this forum, let us see in what direction free speech takes us.
Let us see the consequences of temporarily suspending website moderation so as to allow everyone to have equal liberties to speak freely. The freedom of speech includes the submission of commentary on each others posts and behaviors. If the posting community is strong enough, it will be capable of suggesting other ways to communicate from a position of strength. If we can neglect Dr. Bob temporarily, It is up to our posting community to exercise various strategies to discourage undesirable behaviors and destructive words.
How will this system be set up and managed and enforced...
Right now, in the absence of Dr. Bob, there is no system. There is only us exercising our desire to build a healthy forum of effective communication. It is incumbent upon the posting community to alert people who may be having difficulties maintaining civility in their posts. An essay on what constitutes civil communication is desirable. People who truly want to communicate civilly will profit from learning such skills in a more formal lesson.
Let's try it!
Let's do it!Starting..... NOW!
With what I have learned about civil communication at this website, I am going to try to be as civil as I can be for the sake of promoting and enhancing the education and support found in the posts of its members.
* This was a pretty crappy post. I had to hurry. Mommy wants me to run errands for her. After all, it is what I live for. I love my mommy.
- Scott
* No time to organize thoughts or proofread.
Posted by floatingbridge on January 17, 2011, at 13:45:49
In reply to Do it for YOU!, posted by SLS on January 17, 2011, at 11:49:38
What is happening? I see some new-to-me names behave like teenage arsonists. And I read the Dr. might pull the plug...?
Hasn't the Dr. left the shop before for unknown and unannounced times? (That is, in fact, my biggest peeve: inconsistent or untimely moderation. That's usually when people get hurt.)
We pretty much know each other, and if not, the majority of us, that I've seen respond kindly (in their own style) to newbies.
Some months back a new poster seemingly 'flamed' on about disability. It turned out to be a very helpful thread. She was angry, then revealed she was also hurt, too.
On the other hand, I cannot attempt to emulate Mother Theresa but I had a
mother, and she would say, if you have nothing good to say ....That said, standing up for one's self with dignity, or for a friend, a passerby....seems right. Don't allow some to destroy by unintentionally adding fuel.
Doesn't psych 101 say arsonists are angry? (And we know that anger comes from hurt.) They may need protection from themselves.
Posted by floatingbridge on January 17, 2011, at 13:50:32
In reply to Do it for YOU!, posted by SLS on January 17, 2011, at 11:49:38
Scott, I'd have babblemailed the hugs, but this will have to do :)
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Posted by floatingbridge on January 17, 2011, at 13:58:33
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU! » SLS, posted by floatingbridge on January 17, 2011, at 13:45:49
Good to see you name on board :)
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Posted by linkadge on January 17, 2011, at 18:54:28
In reply to Do it for YOU!, posted by SLS on January 17, 2011, at 11:49:38
I agree with you Scott.
I got blocked a few weeks back and I don't care. I am not the slightest bit remorseful. I said some things that were inflamatory to a particular poster, but I stand behind what I said.
Sometimes for real improvement, statements must be said for which feelings are going to get hurt.
Linkadge
Posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2011, at 21:07:26
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU!, posted by linkadge on January 17, 2011, at 18:54:28
I say go on about our business and ignore those who are flagrantly uncivil. Phillipa. Kind of like working in the psych unit again for me remember they are having problems
Posted by Elanor Roosevelt on January 17, 2011, at 21:41:59
In reply to Do it for YOU!, posted by SLS on January 17, 2011, at 11:49:38
Excellent Scott
I'm in
I think I can now skip reading the posts that have been annoying me. I've had enough.
I'm going to my pdoc tomorrow and bringing with some helpful information I received here. Thank you all for your ongoing support.
Posted by Conundrum on January 17, 2011, at 23:13:13
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU!, posted by Elanor Roosevelt on January 17, 2011, at 21:41:59
> Excellent Scott
> I'm in
> I think I can now skip reading the posts that have been annoying me. I've had enough.
> I'm going to my pdoc tomorrow and bringing with some helpful information I received here. Thank you all for your ongoing support.You know it is interesting the way you worded the title of this post. I read LostinNC's posts and thought got "what a ningkum poop." I wasn't bothered by what he wrote, but I was worried that others would feel put down, so I decided to just attack him back and make fun of him. That way anyone who might be upset by his words, might not take what he says so seriously. I didn't write what I wrote, for me, because I could really careless what he says, but I thought I'd stick up for the people here who I like and deserve some respect.
Posted by morgan miller on January 18, 2011, at 0:48:05
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU!, posted by linkadge on January 17, 2011, at 18:54:28
> I agree with you Scott.
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> I got blocked a few weeks back and I don't care. I am not the slightest bit remorseful. I said some things that were inflamatory to a particular poster, but I stand behind what I said.
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> Sometimes for real improvement, statements must be said for which feelings are going to get hurt.
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>I'm a bit unsure as to exactly what Scott was encouraging. I thought he was encouraging us to communicate in respectful and productive way, more like what Dr. Bob would want, but maybe with a bit more flexibility.
Posted by morgan miller on January 18, 2011, at 0:50:41
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU! » linkadge, posted by Phillipa on January 17, 2011, at 21:07:26
I agree Phillipa. If we do respond to inflammatory posts, we should try to be bigger than the inflammatory poster, using as much class as possible in our responses.
Posted by SLS on January 18, 2011, at 5:31:20
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU! » Phillipa, posted by morgan miller on January 18, 2011, at 0:50:41
> I agree Phillipa. If we do respond to inflammatory posts, we should try to be bigger than the inflammatory poster, using as much class as possible in our responses.
To make this a better place for all of us (or at least most of us), we can strip Dr. Bob of his role of autocratic enforcer and be encouraging of each other and realize that most people coming to a mental health site are experiencing mental and physical pain, demoralization, repeated discouragements, frustration, and anger. For many of us, it never stops. That's a hell of a thing to try to do battle with day in and day out. It affects us. Some of us become sad. Some of us become disinterested. Some of us become angry. These influence how we view life and its constituents. They influence how we feel about other people. More importantly, they influence how we feel about ourselves.
I ain't doing it all. If this shift in roles doesn't take root, I can live with that. I just didn't like the "feel" of this website when it was actively moderated by Dr. Bob. Let us be the experiment he wants us to be. It might be the only way that Psycho-Babble can be resurrected at this point.
I ain't doing it all. (Oh, I said that already). However, it is extremely important that there be absolutely no expectation that any individual help promote self-moderation. People should continue being themselves for as long as that self is desirable to them. For some, their true self might include a desire to actively promote the health of the website through commentary and interaction.
Just some non-random thoughts...
- Scott
Posted by Elanor Roosevelt on January 18, 2011, at 9:46:30
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU!, posted by SLS on January 18, 2011, at 5:31:20
We should also consider the strength of no reply and the ability to render the offender invisible.
Posted by SLS on January 18, 2011, at 10:54:46
In reply to Re: Do it for YOU!, posted by Elanor Roosevelt on January 18, 2011, at 9:46:30
> We should also consider the strength of no reply and the ability to render the offender invisible.
Yes. That would help in some situations, but not all. Since we all have different personalities, that which is right for one person will not be right for others. Besides, you would have to conspire with the rest of the community for there to be absolute abstinence from replying to any one individual. In addition, people can be hurt by the allowance of uncivil comments to continue, especially when they become personal. However, I don't think we need a website where everyone takes on the responsibility of rescuer.
Let's just relax and be ourselves.
Forget systems for now.
I would prefer not to have the Medication board become another Administration board. Otherwise, we will continue to fall back on old behaviors. I am not posting on the Administration board for at least two weeks. I'm going to try, anyway.
ER, you are someone who I consider to be a good role model. Sometimes, it is best to lead by example rather than to offer commentary.
- Scott
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