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Posted by tepi on September 12, 2010, at 23:57:08
Can you tell me what has been the drug with more
prosocial effects for you? are you still taking it? how did you heard about it ? by your doctor , friend , internet...Tepi
Posted by Conundrum on September 13, 2010, at 7:16:04
In reply to What has been your best pro-social drug?, posted by tepi on September 12, 2010, at 23:57:08
From what I have read here, parnate seems to help a lot of people. Stimulants might help as well but pdocs are reluctant to use them because they are addictive. Some say amulsipride helps but I would rather take parnate first. It doesn't increase prolactin or block other receptors. Also its available in the U.S. if thats where you live. I would definitely try parnate first, if I was in that situation.
However I've never been in that situation. I think it could be something you can learn, but maybe thats like telling someone with depression to snap out of it. Is it so bad that you can't say high to someone in a shop and ask how their day is going? One can improve social skills in baby steps. Its also good to read and join some activities. Reading makes you interesting. Activities allow you to talk to people without a lot pressure since your learning how to cook, or playing a sport, or whatever as your main goal. Just some ideas, but maybe you need a drug as well, thats your call.
I'd just hate to see someone taking drugs with all their side effects if it can be avoided.
Posted by Phillipa on September 13, 2010, at 10:52:38
In reply to Re: What has been your best pro-social drug? » tepi, posted by Conundrum on September 13, 2010, at 7:16:04
Hi Tepi for me in the beginning it was valium and miltown no longer used. But I got back to normal for years that way. Still taking nardil or still off it? Phillipa
Posted by Vincent_QC on September 14, 2010, at 10:03:38
In reply to What has been your best pro-social drug?, posted by tepi on September 12, 2010, at 23:57:08
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> Can you tell me what has been the drug with more
> prosocial effects for you? are you still taking it? how did you heard about it ? by your doctor , friend , internet...
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> TepiHi Tepi,
Did you have social phobia? That's an important question to ask first... and if you suffer from social phobi, I really think a Benzo meds like the Clonazepam will be a good choice to start, but they are sometimes addictive and stop working after months or years. That's seem to happen more often on peoples who have social phobia (addiction and not working benzo meds) since a lot ofpeoples with social phobia tend to have an addictive personnality and drink too much alcohol or take drugs to be able to talk with unknow peoples and being pro-social.For the other meds, I don't think social phobia can be treat with antidepressants meds. Some peoples will claim that the Nardil or the Parnate work very well for social phobia but that's not true for everyone, I had nightmare times on the Parnate and almost die from it because of hypertensive crisis that happen without food interraction. The Nardil was before the gold standard treatment for the social phobia but since they change it in 2003 and sales it to another cheap generic drug compagny, it's seem to not work like in the past, but you can start with the Nardil for sure, try it before the Parnate, it's safer than the Parnate...
Alcohol was a good pro-social drug for me in the past but tend to trigger panic attack also and increase the anxiety.
Stimulant meds are for me a very bad choice, try some of them, the Ritalin was not good for sure...
Coffee was a good pro-social drug for me and I used it for years before my actual PDoc ask me to stop drinking coffee... That's weird cause since I stop the coffee, my anxiety level is 1000 times worse!!! Too bad I hate the coffee now, the smeel and taste of it make me sick...
So in order who have the Clonazepam, the Nardil, the Parnate if the Nardil fail, alcohol, coffee... The Paxil can be a good choice, it's not really working for the social phobia but it's decreasing the anxiety so it can lower the social anxiety also...
I think social phobia is more a personnality problem, you have to learn how to introduce you to the other peoples and also how to socialise... That's a hard process trust me, i'm working on that since a while... Therapy is the best thing to treat social phobia I think...no meds will cure it for sure...
Posted by ed_uk2010 on September 14, 2010, at 13:52:58
In reply to What has been your best pro-social drug?, posted by tepi on September 12, 2010, at 23:57:08
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> Can you tell me what has been the drug with more
> prosocial effects for you? are you still taking it? how did you heard about it ? by your doctor , friend , internet...
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> TepiNothing is pro-social for me except alcohol (unreliably). Not that I'm normally antisocial, but I'm never super social. I've not quite mastered the art of conversation. I have no idea how some people manage to talk so much.
Posted by alexcanada on September 15, 2010, at 23:17:20
In reply to Re: What has been your best pro-social drug? » tepi, posted by Vincent_QC on September 14, 2010, at 10:03:38
Sick and tired of most of the responses here about social phobia or social anxiety... relating to some kind of ''personality disorder'' or just something you can snap the hell out of.
No, for me I can't just snap my darn fingers thanks. If you cant snap out of clinical depression then you cannot snap out of serious social anxiety. I used to be more social when I was younger. Before I got poisoned by vitamin A overdose thanks to an ignorant doctor. It's extremely difficult for me to be social with people and it also correlates often to how good or bad my depression is as well.
I helped out at a friend's store for the past 4 days and it involved a lot of talking but it was business oriented. Yet with this so called ''practice'' and ahem... ''human interaction'' I am not any better after these 4 days at all. I have almost nothing to say to people including the few friends I have and constantly find it difficult to engage in any conversation.
So yes... for many... medication is the only answer.
Posted by Maxime on September 17, 2010, at 22:05:46
In reply to Sick and Tired, posted by alexcanada on September 15, 2010, at 23:17:20
I am glad you are helping out at your friend's store. You may not feel the benefit but there is one that will build over time. It will.
Posted by tepi on September 17, 2010, at 22:27:29
In reply to What has been your best pro-social drug?, posted by tepi on September 12, 2010, at 23:57:08
Ive tried most drugs , benzos, SRIS ,SRNIS, trycilcis , APS , Nardil , betablockers
Never Parnate , maybe I should try it one dayHas anybody found a way to mix alcohol to help you have a better life wihtout risk of becoming alcoholic? I think the alcohol help me the most
why there is any drug like the alcohol?? do you know how does it works on the brain?
I need alcohol now !
Posted by Conundrum on September 17, 2010, at 22:32:44
In reply to Sick and Tired, posted by alexcanada on September 15, 2010, at 23:17:20
> Sick and tired of most of the responses here about social phobia or social anxiety... relating to some kind of ''personality disorder'' or just something you can snap the hell out of.
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> No, for me I can't just snap my darn fingers thanks. If you cant snap out of clinical depression then you cannot snap out of serious social anxiety. I
> So yes... for many... medication is the only answer.My first response included the following:
"However I've never been in that situation. I think it could be something you can learn, but maybe thats like telling someone with depression to snap out of it."
Posted by ed_uk2010 on September 18, 2010, at 10:11:46
In reply to Has anyone used Alcohol?, posted by tepi on September 17, 2010, at 22:27:29
>Has anybody found a way to mix alcohol to help you have a better life wihtout risk of becoming alcoholic? I think the alcohol help me the most
> why there is any drug like the alcohol?? do you know how does it works on the brain?
> I need alcohol now !If you can stick to one drink per day, it's OK, but it's only going to help you for a couple of hours. There is no way that drinking throughout the day (regularly) is going to do you any good.
A mexican beer is good on an evening :)
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