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Posted by floatingbridge on December 15, 2009, at 22:22:12
Well, I went in to my local doc-in-the-box for what I thought was a foot fungus and came out with a Dx for Raynaurd's (plus athlete's foot). WTF. A side effect of strattera. A call to my pdoc and am advised to stay on the starttera until I see him in Jan., go to my primary, (again, and for what--for him to look at me like I'm a sad-specimen hypochondriac middle-aged--o.k. kinda' past middle aged woman?), and we'll see about the strattera then.
Guess I'm venting.
Anyone else here have Raynaurd's Syndrome?
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Posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2009, at 0:10:24
In reply to strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by floatingbridge on December 15, 2009, at 22:22:12
Fb I had a rheumatologist at one time try to say I also had it as my fingernails didn't blanch to his liking and my hands were cold compared to his. Had office visit with him husband went and he felt husbands hands also and told him he had renauds also. Needless to say we never went back. Now what were your symptoms? Love Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2009, at 0:15:06
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2009, at 0:10:24
Here you go now wear your mittens and socks. Love Phillipa
http://arthritis.webmd.com/tc/raynauds-phenomenon-topic-overview?page=2
Posted by SLS on December 16, 2009, at 7:24:30
In reply to strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by floatingbridge on December 15, 2009, at 22:22:12
> Well, I went in to my local doc-in-the-box for what I thought was a foot fungus and came out with a Dx for Raynaurd's (plus athlete's foot). WTF.
Cold feet (and hands) is sometimes a side effect of norandrenergic drugs. It can disappear with time. I had this happen to me a few times. It was harmless. It probably has to do with the regulation of blood flow by the autonomic nervous system.
Making an appointment with your doctor was a good idea.
- Scott
Posted by fleeting flutterby on December 16, 2009, at 9:35:01
In reply to strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by floatingbridge on December 15, 2009, at 22:22:12
> Well, I went in to my local doc-in-the-box for what I thought was a foot fungus and came out with a Dx for Raynaurd's (plus athlete's foot). WTF. A side effect of strattera. A call to my pdoc and am advised to stay on the starttera until I see him in Jan., go to my primary, (again, and for what--for him to look at me like I'm a sad-specimen hypochondriac middle-aged--o.k. kinda' past middle aged woman?), and we'll see about the strattera then.
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> Guess I'm venting.
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> Anyone else here have Raynaurd's Syndrome?
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> fb---flutterby: Well, I've had Raynauds my whole life. Even as a child if I went out in below freezing weather I'd be in so much pain in my feet and hands-- I swore there were needles under my nails. :o(
When I was late teens early twenties my toes turned purple when wearing high heels so I couldn't wear them often and that made me feel like a fish out of water in the work place.I think for me, it was the trauma that I went through from a baby until adult-- no studies have been done that I know of -- but I bet if there was a study done they'd find that a person can be so triggered with hypervigilence by life that they even shut their own circulation down.
I wish I could just stop taking a pill and it would go away........ I have yet to get it to abate. freezing hands and feet.... turning purple without blood flow.... not fun-- I feel for you. Hope you can find a way to counteract it.
best to youflutterby
Posted by bleauberry on December 16, 2009, at 17:29:10
In reply to strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by floatingbridge on December 15, 2009, at 22:22:12
I can relate because I've had cold hands and feet most of my life, easily chilled, and the situation is easily aggravated by air conditioning or winter or norepinephrine boosting agents.
Just so you know, there are some herbs out there that do a good job of boosting microcirculation which gets warm blood to the places you need it. I discovered these herbs primarily in Lyme treatment since it is so important to get antimicrobials into the tiny hard-to-reach places. Opening circulation up and boosting microcirculation is important for that. I discovered by hands and feet were about 40% warmer than they used to be, and I felt comfortable instead of chilled. Though I am only a couple years into my discovery of medicinal power of herbs, many of them most of us haven't heard of, I am continually impressed by what potential they have.
Anyway, just thought you would find that interesting.
Posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2009, at 21:29:10
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by bleauberry on December 16, 2009, at 17:29:10
Hashimotos can cause it also sometimes hot sometimes freezing like now. Love Phillipa
Posted by morganator on December 18, 2009, at 23:47:30
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by bleauberry on December 16, 2009, at 17:29:10
Cayenne pepper can increase circulation and help with cold hands and feel. You can buy it in capsule form.
Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 1:23:05
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation » floatingbridge, posted by SLS on December 16, 2009, at 7:24:30
Thanks Scott, I did not know this (much less what Raynaud's was). I dropped the strattera--the benefits (quite small) were outweighed by the side effects--sedation, cognitive impairment of top of Raynuad's.
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> Cold feet (and hands) is sometimes a side effect of norandrenergic drugs. It can disappear with time. I had this happen to me a few times. It was harmless. It probably has to do with the regulation of blood flow by the autonomic nervous system.
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> Making an appointment with your doctor was a good idea.
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> - Scott
Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 1:47:16
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation » floatingbridge, posted by fleeting flutterby on December 16, 2009, at 9:35:01
> ---flutterby: Well, I've had Raynauds my whole life. Even as a child if I went out in below freezing weather I'd be in so much pain in my feet and hands-- I swore there were needles under my nails. :o(
> When I was late teens early twenties my toes turned purple when wearing high heels so I couldn't wear them often and that made me feel like a fish out of water in the work place.
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> I think for me, it was the trauma that I went through from a baby until adult-- no studies have been done that I know of -- but I bet if there was a study done they'd find that a person can be so triggered with hypervigilence by life that they even shut their own circulation down.Yes, Flutterby, I wonder about this. As the doctor was diagnosing me, I could feel my hands 'numb' up. Kind of a chilling feeling I've felt before, only more extreme. Do you think people could faint from it? Is it like going into shock? I guess those are different processes....
> I wish I could just stop taking a pill and it would go away........ I have yet to get it to abate. freezing hands and feet.... turning purple without blood flow.... not fun-- I feel for you. Hope you can find a way to counteract it.
Flutterby, this sounds really painful. Mine is not so pronounced--a tingly numbness in hands and an inability to warm them. The day I went to the doc, though, my feet were a mottled blackish-purple. I thought I had dye on my feet from the socks I wore the day before--until he pressed my feet and his fingers left white impressions. Also had a red blossom of a fungus, which he said was opportunistic due to decreased circulation. It started when I began strattera, but I had never made the connection--having to wear my ugg boots to bed, feet and hands never warming.
I'm off the strattera now and this hopefully will clear up and go back into remission. I also started ginger and cayenne capsules once or twice a day. Seems to help.
Thanks Flutter-by for taking the time to read and comment. Its good to hear from you!
Best to you, too!
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Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 1:49:27
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by bleauberry on December 16, 2009, at 17:29:10
Bleauberry,
Thanks for your post. I'm taking ginger and cayenne which seems to help. What have you found effective? (I've also discontinued stattera--little benefit and big side effects.)
kind regards,
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Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 1:50:36
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by morganator on December 18, 2009, at 23:47:30
Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 1:53:10
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by Phillipa on December 16, 2009, at 21:29:10
> Hashimotos can cause it also sometimes hot sometimes freezing like now. Love Phillipa
Phillipa, I did not know this--also found out raynaud's can be autoimmune. sigh. He began to recommend tests, and I told him I had just had a slew of them. He checked my records and said, yup, that's just what I would have ordered.
la-de-da.
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Posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 18:58:47
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation » Phillipa, posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 1:53:10
Fb so you don't have true Renauds? Just from the straterra? Love Phillipa
Posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 20:24:25
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation » floatingbridge, posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 18:58:47
> Fb so you don't have true Renauds? Just from the straterra? Love Phillipa
I don't know--doc said many people have am underlying condition that certain meds can exacerbate. Frankly I had never heard of it before. Sent me to Google. Meantime, my hands are freezing, but nothing compared to what others have described.
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Posted by Phillipa on December 21, 2009, at 21:40:16
In reply to Re: strattera and raynaurd's syndrome presentation, posted by floatingbridge on December 21, 2009, at 20:24:25
Well at least it doesn't sound dangerous. Love Phillipa
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