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Posted by g_g_g_unit on October 18, 2009, at 18:42:32
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » bulldog2, posted by metafunj on October 18, 2009, at 14:42:53
hmm, maybe i'll try raising to 50mg for a week and see how i go. if not, at least i know i tried my best. thanks for all your responses.
Posted by Maxime on October 18, 2009, at 19:01:57
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 18, 2009, at 18:42:32
I'm glad you are sticking with it. It would be a shame to give up before it has a chance to do its magic.
Keep us posted.
Posted by Maxime on October 18, 2009, at 19:02:32
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » g_g_g_unit, posted by delna on October 18, 2009, at 3:55:51
Delna, did you decide to stick with it or have you given up?
Posted by g_g_g_unit on October 18, 2009, at 19:44:39
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » g_g_g_unit, posted by Maxime on October 18, 2009, at 19:01:57
> I'm glad you are sticking with it. It would be a shame to give up before it has a chance to do its magic.
>
> Keep us posted.thanks Maxime. i hope you see some results soon. what dose are you currently at?
i'm starting CBT this week soon, so hopefully that should help, especially if i have to withdraw. coming off Nardil, even after 12 weeks, was hell.
Posted by delna on October 19, 2009, at 1:46:48
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » delna, posted by Maxime on October 18, 2009, at 19:02:32
> Delna, did you decide to stick with it or have you given up?
Sticking with it. I didn't take it for 2 days so am back down to 20mg but today I will up it to 30mg.
Hypotension is bad- it appeared 7 hours after dosing and knocked me out. How weird. But my pdoc days it will go.....Thanks for asking..
Posted by Sunbath on October 19, 2009, at 1:53:03
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » metafunj, posted by Maxime on October 18, 2009, at 15:40:36
> > Any way to get Remeron? Its the most powerful antihistamine out there. Way more potent than trazodone
>
> It's contraindicated with Parnate.Hi Maxime,
that's true but so is your trazodone!
They are both so damn weak sris, mirtazapine might be even weaker ..
Sorry that you are feeling so bad :( I really hope it's helping you soon!!!
Wow 200mg of trazodone isn't helping you at all?
Did it help you in the past when you didn't take parnate with your insomnia?I know a few people by person who don't get sedated at all with trazodone..
I also had insomnia before taking parnate and trazodone helped me really much before and now on parnate tooIf it was helping you in the past, how long is it since you took it at last?
Take care, keeping my fingers crossed for you!
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2009, at 14:25:52
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Maxime, posted by Sunbath on October 19, 2009, at 1:53:03
Hi, I was taking Trazodone in August to help me sleep. 200 mg would always do the trick. I tried 200 mg again last night and once again, I did not sleep. I am tempted to try 300 mg and see what happens.
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2009, at 14:27:39
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Maxime, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 18, 2009, at 19:44:39
> thanks Maxime. i hope you see some results soon. what dose are you currently at?
>
> i'm starting CBT this week soon, so hopefully that should help, especially if i have to withdraw. coming off Nardil, even after 12 weeks, was hell.
>I went up to 40 mg today. I've been titrating it slowly as per pdoc's instructions, but now I am taking matters into my own hands and I am going to go up 10 mg every 3-4 days.
Doing CBT is a good idea. I hope it helps.
Posted by Sunbath on October 19, 2009, at 17:38:39
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Sunbath, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2009, at 14:25:52
Sorry Maxime that I even tried to motivate you not to take the 200mg the first night :(
What's the maximum recommended dose for immedate release trazodone anyway?300mg sounds like really really much..
What would you say to mirtazapine as a sleep aid? Too much weight gain?Good luck Maxime, I really hope you find something that let's you sleep! Insomnia is sooo terrible!
Feeling for you,
Sunbath
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2009, at 18:21:46
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Maxime, posted by Sunbath on October 19, 2009, at 17:38:39
600 mg is the maximum recommended dose for trazodone as an antidepressant. I think I will try 300 mg tonight and see what happens. If it doesn't work, then I am not going to bother trying anymore with the trazodone. I've been awake for 4 days now. :(
Posted by emmanuel98 on October 19, 2009, at 20:04:23
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Sunbath, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2009, at 18:21:46
I was awake for two nights in a row on parnate but my doc started me on 100mg of seroquel at bedtime and that seems to help. Have you tried seroquel?
Posted by Maxime on October 19, 2009, at 20:45:46
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel, posted by emmanuel98 on October 19, 2009, at 20:04:23
Seroquel doesn't sedate me unfortunately. I can take up to 400 mg and not feel a thing. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Posted by Metafunj on October 19, 2009, at 21:40:13
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Maxime, posted by Sunbath on October 19, 2009, at 1:53:03
Remeron isn't an SRI but it may be contraindicated for other reasons. Might be worth talking to your dr about.
Posted by MAxime on October 20, 2009, at 10:53:39
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Sunbath, posted by Maxime on October 19, 2009, at 18:21:46
300 mg did nothing. ARGH!
Posted by metafunj on October 20, 2009, at 14:17:49
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » Maxime, posted by MAxime on October 20, 2009, at 10:53:39
Have u tried sleeping during the day. I've found that if for some reason I miss nights sleep I have trouble sleeping the next night. But even if I get a little sleep during the day I can get back to my usual routine of sleeping at night after staying up all night.
Its like your body gets in a mode of not sleeping so it stops, but there are usually windows when you are not thinking of it when you get tired during the day and can sleep. Take advantage of those and you may find yourself able to sleep at night again.
Posted by MAxime on October 20, 2009, at 16:24:50
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » MAxime, posted by metafunj on October 20, 2009, at 14:17:49
No, I've been avoiding sleeping during the day because I thought it would make things worse. Maybe I will try it tomorrow. Thanks for the suggestion.
Posted by g_g_g_unit on October 21, 2009, at 19:30:18
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » metafunj, posted by MAxime on October 20, 2009, at 16:24:50
yeah i raised the dose to 50mg without my doctor's orders. the higher the go, the more anxiolytic it gets, which is good. i've been napping during the day. unfortunately, i tried cutting out sleep meds and just haven't slept for 2 nights.
when you were on 80mg did you need a sleep aid maxime?
Posted by FredPotter on October 21, 2009, at 19:59:01
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 17, 2009, at 2:16:14
It's weird stuff. I can't stop sleeping, sometimes all day and night
Posted by Maxime on October 21, 2009, at 20:37:18
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » MAxime, posted by g_g_g_unit on October 21, 2009, at 19:30:18
At this point I am trying to get to 80 mg ASAP!
When I was on 80 mg before I didn't need a sleep aid. It's weird. When I was on Parnate before it was very stimulating and I didn't get this daytime fatigue. Now it seems like my reaction to it has changed.
Posted by Maxime on October 21, 2009, at 20:38:16
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel, posted by FredPotter on October 21, 2009, at 19:59:01
I wouldn't mind being unable to stop sleeping for a while. It would be a nice change from this damn insomnia!
Posted by delna on October 21, 2009, at 21:06:12
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel, posted by FredPotter on October 21, 2009, at 19:59:01
> It's weird stuff. I can't stop sleeping, sometimes all day and night
I agree with you that its a really weird drug. Somedays I am so tired that I can't stop sleeping like you- all day and night (and that adds to my depression.) and I want to quit the drug.
Then I get a few days during which, although I haven't slept for more than 3-4 hours, I am up all day. I wouldn't say I am stimulated or anything . Just awake. Its so strange and has nothing to do with dose increases or when I take the drug. Weird....Well I hope your sleepiness goes (and mine too)
My fingers are crossed for the both of us.
Take care
D
Posted by Maxime on October 21, 2009, at 22:56:51
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » FredPotter, posted by Maxime on October 21, 2009, at 20:38:16
Dammit! I can just tell that I am NOT going to be able to sleep tonight. Shoot me now please.
Posted by kirbyw on October 22, 2009, at 15:43:23
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel, posted by Maxime on October 21, 2009, at 22:56:51
Maxime
Its 4 am I am awake from my Parnate dose. what we parnate insomniacs need is an overnight insomniacs "club" we should all talk to each other on the phone or something. Actually I am trying to make the best of it. I had some food, I walked up and down the stairs a half dozen times to try to get a bit tired. I am listening to music and reading various newspapers on the internet. Luckily I don't have to go to work tomorrow. Its a pain, and its kind of lonely but I'd rather have this than the really bad depression (and the hypersomnia,as when I am very depressed I can easily sleep 15 hours a day with no motivation to do anything which is worse than the insomnia) I am still not over my depression yet and don't know what will happen when I go from 30 to 40 mg of Parnate. But here I am awake and not fighting it for the moment. In an hour or two I may get tired, hopefully.
Rick in Costa Rica
Posted by kirbyw on October 22, 2009, at 15:54:02
In reply to Re: parnate - ready to throw in the towel » kirbyw, posted by Phillipa on October 17, 2009, at 20:44:32
Thanks for this. Oldie but goodie! i didn't realize the post was for me at first. I thought it was referring to a rock song.
Rick
Posted by Maxime on October 24, 2009, at 11:41:01
In reply to Re: parnate - regarding Maxime's sleep issue, posted by kirbyw on October 22, 2009, at 15:43:23
It's lonely when you can't sleep. The world around you is a asleep and you are wide awake.
I hope you got some sleep.
This didn't happen to me the last time I was on Parnate.
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