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Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences ceres

Posted by morganator on August 17, 2009, at 18:23:57

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by ceres on August 17, 2009, at 3:14:29

Nope, that's why I am asking. I really want to try it.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 17, 2009, at 23:39:18

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by ceres on August 17, 2009, at 3:14:29

It's good for me.

Although it feels much different to Parnate, it is similar in that both drugs do not feel like pharmacological insults and both feel like euphoriants.

Also, of course, improves sleep.

Never tried SSRIs.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by morganator on August 18, 2009, at 0:58:34

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 17, 2009, at 23:39:18

Are you only on Agomelatine? How many times do you dose it?

Why did you stop Parnate?

Sorry for all the questions I'm just very interested in both Parnate and Agomelatine, not to take together but individually.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 18, 2009, at 7:42:32

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 18, 2009, at 0:58:34

> Are you only on Agomelatine? How many times do you dose it?
>
> Why did you stop Parnate?
>
> Sorry for all the questions I'm just very interested in both Parnate and Agomelatine, not to take together but individually.

Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences morganator

Posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:45:27

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 18, 2009, at 0:58:34

> Are you only on Agomelatine?

That and afobazol, Hydergine and Valium


>How many times do you dose it?

Before bed


>Why did you stop Parnate?

Insomnia, and higher doses made me feel weird.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:50:56

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 18, 2009, at 7:42:32

>Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?

I dunno.

There are drugs that can create a feeling of pleasure (all of them of course illegal), though they do not actually help with anhedonia once they are gone.

It might.

Afobazol is good, as good for that as agomelatine.

Available OTC in Russia.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 2:57:54

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by Sigismund on August 18, 2009, at 17:50:56

> >Does Agomelatine help anhedonia?
>
> I dunno.
>
> There are drugs that can create a feeling of pleasure (all of them of course illegal), though they do not actually help with anhedonia once they are gone.
>
> It might.
>
> Afobazol is good, as good for that as agomelatine.
>
> Available OTC in Russia.

Yes, I don't live in Russia though...

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 19, 2009, at 17:50:35

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 19, 2009, at 2:57:54

>Yes, I don't live in Russia though.

You live a lot closer to it than I do.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 10:23:36

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 19, 2009, at 17:50:35

> >Yes, I don't live in Russia though.
>
> You live a lot closer to it than I do.

Yes, maybe I'll go on a hike to Moscow tomorrow. The sun should be out. Gotta watch out for the bears though.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 16:32:30

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 10:23:36

I get it from Poland, actually. You could just stop there.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 16:32:30

Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 21:03:01

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

>Poland is full of pale famished jews.

Not any more. Anyway, I'd like to see Krakow and the Carpathians.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Bob12 on August 23, 2009, at 9:58:44

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

> Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.


Kindly do not post offensive, uneducated, and anti-semetic posts here.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences (nm) morganator

Posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:51:34

In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences morganator

Posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:53:19

In reply to Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by morganator on August 15, 2009, at 18:21:01

I combined 12.5 of agomelatine with 75 of venlafaxine (SNRI). Within 2 days I was hypomanic, and I have never had any hypomania ever before with any drug or combination. I had not been diagnosed bipolar. I have now gone off venlafaxine and am starting agomelatine on its own with a mood stabiliser. Just thought you should be aware of that before combining...

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences blynth

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:30:23

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences morganator, posted by blynth on August 24, 2009, at 3:53:19

> I combined 12.5 of agomelatine with 75 of venlafaxine (SNRI). Within 2 days I was hypomanic, and I have never had any hypomania ever before with any drug or combination. I had not been diagnosed bipolar. I have now gone off venlafaxine and am starting agomelatine on its own with a mood stabiliser. Just thought you should be aware of that before combining...

Thanks for the idea!!!

Anything that is capable of making me manic is a blessing. I have been so areactive to previous treatments, that my doctors would be happy if I were to become manic because it is very easily controlled in me with Depakote. So, the thinking is that such a strategy would leave me euthymic.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:37:51

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 20, 2009, at 16:59:10

> Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.

After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.

Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?

Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:17:33

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 5:37:51

> > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
>
> After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
>
> Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
>
> Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
>
>
> - Scott

Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:19:08

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Sigismund on August 20, 2009, at 21:03:01

> >Poland is full of pale famished jews.
>
> Not any more. Anyway, I'd like to see Krakow and the Carpathians.

I thought the Carpathians were extinct.
Maybe i'm thinking about something else. I thought they were like the knights templar or something.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 7:31:59

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 7:17:33

> > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.

> > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> >
> > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> >
> > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.

> Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.


Sorry, but I don't buy it.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 7:31:59

> > > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.
>
> > > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> > >
> > > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> > >
> > > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.
>
> > Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.
>
>
> Sorry, but I don't buy it.
>
>
> - Scott

You think I'm a jew hater?

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark

Posted by clipper40 on August 24, 2009, at 15:29:22

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41

It sure sounded like it to me. You may have intended it to be a joke, but some things just aren't funny.

(BTW, my grandparents were Polish Jews who got out of Poland just in time.)

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 15:42:13

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 24, 2009, at 11:09:41

> > > > > Oh god no, Poland is full of pale famished jews.. I rather wrestle a bear with my shoes tied together.


> > > > After reading this, I might be disinclined to interact with you. My grandparents were Polish, pale, famished Jews.
> > > >
> > > > Is there anything you would like to add to your comments?
> > > >
> > > > Would you prefer that I not offer you feedback in the future? I am still willing.


> > > Oh god it really is difficult to crack a joke on the internet without offending someone.


> > Sorry, but I don't buy it.


> You think I'm a jew hater?


I cannot know what is in your mind or in your heart.

I doubt it would be productive for us to discuss this any more.


- Scott

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Sigismund on August 24, 2009, at 16:26:00

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences Alexanderfromdenmark, posted by clipper40 on August 24, 2009, at 15:29:22

I feel like my digressions have kicked this off. The view east from Western Europe may be a little different to the view from New York. Denmark was the only European country to save its Jewish population. The Carpathians will not become extinct any time soon.

 

Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences

Posted by Alexanderfromdenmark on August 25, 2009, at 9:01:08

In reply to Re: Agomelatine-Valdoxan Experiences, posted by SLS on August 24, 2009, at 15:42:13

I agree

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