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Posted by tonyz on June 17, 2009, at 12:23:44
Very informative posting about the 'potential' effects of lithium on the thyroid, kidneys, etc.
http://www.psycheducation.org/depression/meds/LithiumRisks.htm
If anyone has had memory/cognitive issues while on lithium I would appreciate hearing about it. Thanks.
Posted by tonyz on June 17, 2009, at 12:25:15
In reply to Lithium, posted by tonyz on June 17, 2009, at 12:23:44
> Very informative posting about the 'potential' effects of lithium on the thyroid, kidneys, etc.
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> http://www.psycheducation.org/depression/meds/LithiumRisks.htm
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> If anyone has had memory/cognitive issues while on lithium I would appreciate hearing about it. Thanks.Sorry for submitting twice but forgot to click the notify of later follow up button
Posted by Phillipa on June 17, 2009, at 12:49:14
In reply to Re: Lithium, posted by tonyz on June 17, 2009, at 12:25:15
The symtoms of low thyroid are the same as for just having hasimotos and believe me it makes any depression/anxiety so much harder to treat. Phillipa
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on June 17, 2009, at 22:57:22
In reply to Lithium, posted by tonyz on June 17, 2009, at 12:23:44
it's just as being on a "nuerotropic" for years, Thorzine...it depletes life, the quality, after years and years of taking it.
Yet at the time...it would help for periods, but i can't argue, my own arguement. Sometimes..it's just the medication for someone, bottemline.
rj
Posted by psyclist123 on June 21, 2009, at 12:33:17
In reply to Lithium, posted by tonyz on June 17, 2009, at 12:23:44
> Very informative posting about the 'potential' effects of lithium on the thyroid, kidneys, etc.
>
> http://www.psycheducation.org/depression/meds/LithiumRisks.htm
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> If anyone has had memory/cognitive issues while on lithium I would appreciate hearing about it. Thanks.Yeah I guess I have had memory/cognitive issues on lithium. I've been on it for 30 odd years so I am used to it now. Bit of brain fog and I cannot remember what happened yesterday but can usually remember all my passwords etc. Maybe it is just because nothing really ever happens that is worthy of remembering. It may also be the result of a low thyroid - low but not clinically low.
Thanks for posting that article.
Posted by tonyz on June 21, 2009, at 14:42:10
In reply to Re: Lithium - great article, thanks » tonyz, posted by psyclist123 on June 21, 2009, at 12:33:17
If you read through the article you might want to consult an endocronologist just to be sure about the thyroid. Maybe a small dosage of thryroid medication would be helpful in your situation. I don't have any medical training, but I'm just wondering if your T3/T4 is in the normal range but borderline or on the low side, maybe some thyroid hormone would help.
I know it is used as an adjunct with some antidepressants on occasion.
Posted by psyclist123 on June 22, 2009, at 8:15:37
In reply to Re: Lithium - great article, thanks, posted by tonyz on June 21, 2009, at 14:42:10
> If you read through the article you might want to consult an endocronologist just to be sure about the thyroid. Maybe a small dosage of thryroid medication would be helpful in your situation. I don't have any medical training, but I'm just wondering if your T3/T4 is in the normal range but borderline or on the low side, maybe some thyroid hormone would help.
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> I know it is used as an adjunct with some antidepressants on occasion.I have had my thryroid tested, free T4 and TSH, every 3 months. My FT4 has been at 11 picomoles per litre (10-22) the last 2 times and has also been this low on previous occasions but the GP and my psychiatrist have not been concerned because my TSH has not been elevated. They only start to take notice when the TSH goes high. Mine was low at 2.0 and 1.7 mu/L (0.30 - 5.50). I have taken it in my own hands now and I have been taking Kelp tablets containing 150 mcg of Iodine, 2 tablets per day with another 150 mcg in my daily multivitamin tablet, total Iodine supplement of 450 mcg per day. RDA is 150 mcg. I am due for my next blood tests on 17 July so I may see an improvement in FT4 then, but I am not holding my breath.
There is a heart surgeon and professor of cardio-thoracic surgery at Washington university called Donald W. Miller, Jr., M.D who takes a daily Iodine supplement of 12.5 mg in the form of 2 drops of Lugols Solution. He would not do this if it was not good for him. So I am way inside the upper limit for Iodine supplementation. Whether it will do my thyroid any good or not waits to be seen. The Japanese consume large amounts of Kelp and Iodine and it does not do them any harm.
My other medications are Lithium 900 mg and Mirtazapine 15 mg.
According to Dr Miller Iodine has other benefits to the body and general health besides the thyroid.
Posted by psyclist123 on June 22, 2009, at 9:06:03
In reply to Re: Lithium - great article, thanks, posted by psyclist123 on June 22, 2009, at 8:15:37
The Thyroid and the Mind and Emotions/
Thyroid Dysfunction and Mental Disorders
A.G. Awad, MD, BCH, PhD, FRCP(C)
Associate Professor of Psychiatry, University of Toronto
Director, Psychobiological Medicine Unit, Department of Psychiatry, Toronto Western Hospital
An underactive thyroid can lead to progressive loss of interest and initiative, slowing of mental processes, poor memory for recent events, fading of the personality's colour and vivacity, general intellectual deterioration, depression with a paranoid flavour, and eventually, if not checked, to dementia and permanent harmful effects on the brain. In instances of each condition, some persons have been wrongly diagnosed, hospitalized for months, and treated unsuccessfully for psychosis.
Posted by Phillipa on June 22, 2009, at 21:16:05
In reply to Re: Lithium - great article, thanks, posted by psyclist123 on June 22, 2009, at 8:15:37
As long as it's not hasimotos thyroiditis the autoimmune type iodine is fine if hasimotos iodine make for an angry thryoid. This is googleable. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on June 22, 2009, at 21:32:16
In reply to Thyroid, Mind and Emotions..., posted by psyclist123 on June 22, 2009, at 9:06:03
Another article. Phillipa
http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/105072501300176462
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