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Posted by garnet71 on April 24, 2009, at 7:10:05
How come this stuff doesn't wear off then make you tired like Ritalin or Adderall? Focus/concentration does eventually go away like the other stims, but then insomnia emerges. I only took 1/2 dose, cut the pill in half for 5 mg. Geez I even took the smaller half..lol. That was over 12 HOURS ago and still can't get to sleep.
Posted by rjlockheart on April 24, 2009, at 13:54:20
In reply to dextro, posted by garnet71 on April 24, 2009, at 7:10:05
dextroamphetamine, is a stimulant. It's half the Isomer of "Amphetamine" which actually, when it was made, it was 50%D-amp/50%levo-amp
D-Amp: effects most times, directly on dopamine transporter to release more into the nerve synapse, there for, increased motivation, focus, doing things that you don't, lost intrest in (depression). Not used, much...anymore, but in somecases, with an antidepressant/dexedrine, it helps. Just not a standard, anymore.Levoamphetamine doesnt have much "focus", it doenst act on the brain, it's more on the respitory, and alertness, through release of some norephinephrine, which sometimes, Adderall is better for alertness, and focus.
So you have to understand, all forms, cause drowsiness, tiredness, irrtiblity, it just depends on the person.
Methyphendidate, Ritilin is short acting 2 hours, usally, and actually it has more "bad side" effects than "Amphetamine" it'self. Alot of Mood changes, Concerta (unique release mechanism, long-acting), or the "Daytrana" patch, or "on scheduele" redosing of the pill form, which you would have to redose every 2-3 hours. I took Rililin a long, ? 11 years ago, it didnt work, and i rerember it made me more, upset about "ridicoulous" things. Caused Depression, at low doses, i couldnt stand it.
The only thing, amphetamine has been around, released I believe since 1937, 1932? to the market for use, in depression, low-energy depression, appitite suppressant, eventually it was found "effective" back then what was called "Minimal Brain Dysphuntion(misspelled, sorry)"...today is now, ADD, ADHD.
World War II, "combat survival kits" which had medical supplies to treat cut's, wounds, some anti-bacterial/anti-virus, so...there would not be infection. "Benzedrine" was supplied for "sustained awakeness" usally for "constantly being aware, alert".
Main point: depends on the person, and the stimulant, some react better to Caffine, it depends, diffrent nerves, transmitters, or just the personality/construction of the brain, it react's diffrent to "anything" in life, that's what makes "individuality"
takecare
rj
Posted by Zana on April 24, 2009, at 16:01:55
In reply to Re: dextro, posted by rjlockheart on April 24, 2009, at 13:54:20
I had a completely paradoxiacal effect from the dextro. It made me sleepy. How strange is that? I think RJ is right. So much of the effect of any med is individual.
Don't you have a lot of anxiety? I would think dextro would make it worse unless you took something like a benzo or gabapentin with it.
Hope you're feeling better.
Zana
Posted by garnet71 on April 24, 2009, at 20:19:21
In reply to dextro, posted by garnet71 on April 24, 2009, at 7:10:05
Well besides the insomnia, I think I like this stuff. Def. better for me than Adderall and Ritalin (and thanks Metric for the tip--my PDoc was ok with the Dextroamphetamine after I explained to him what you said (and of course read other sources to verify)).
So far, anyway. If the insomnia keeps up, that'll be a diff. story. I need my sleep every night. zzzzzzzzzzzs...
But it's good I only need 1/2 dose as opposed to what was prescribed to me. My new PDoc appt. is not for 2 months, so hopefully it will last.
Posted by desolationrower on April 24, 2009, at 21:57:15
In reply to Re: dextro, posted by garnet71 on April 24, 2009, at 20:19:21
hey you got this? good.
-d/r
Posted by garnet71 on April 24, 2009, at 22:41:15
In reply to Re: dextro, posted by desolationrower on April 24, 2009, at 21:57:15
Yeah, but now my PDoc won't see me anymore and referred me to someone else. It's a long story, I posted above about it.
At least I can get in gear and start to catch up on everything I haven't done for the past 6 months. So far, I've scrubbed every inch of my kitchen (cleaning textured walls suck) and am packing stuff up, rededorating a bit. It'll be interesting to see how it helps with schoolwork, since school ended on Wed., and I have a week before i start the new semester.
Wish I could share some dextro with you so you could try it, but you know how that goes. I don't know if new PDoc will allow me to continue taking it.
Posted by desolationrower on April 24, 2009, at 23:56:38
In reply to Re: dextro, posted by garnet71 on April 24, 2009, at 22:41:15
yeah. do you have a new doc lined up? the fact you're already on it and responding well will probabbly make it much more likely they'll prescribe it though.
-d/r
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