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Posted by johnj1 on April 13, 2009, at 16:42:20
Man, med free for about 1 year and 9 months. Some very bad times and some very good times. Now, things are gettng worse, OCD, anxiety, insomnia. I feel like a failure. I really have tried wonder why I can't think myself out of this. Isn't it our thoughts that cause this? Not sure what to do.... Started with anxiety and then OCD reared it's ugly head. I ruminate hours a day. Sh*t, I hate this.
Posted by Zana on April 13, 2009, at 16:58:24
In reply to Med Free- Relapse, posted by johnj1 on April 13, 2009, at 16:42:20
Think about it this way: there's your brain and there's your mind. The brain is the physical structure in which the mind, a mental creation, lives. Your thoughts can change the way your brain functions but not enough if you have a physically based disorder like depression or OCD. You need medication. You can't think your way out of this, I think. Find a good Pdoc and get a consult. See what they say and how you feel about it. Don't blame yourself. That's depression speaking. Your brain may be hard wired for OCD. It's not something bad you've done. It's something bad in your life that you have to struggle with. Take it easy on yourself. No blame.
Zana
Posted by johnj1 on April 13, 2009, at 17:14:08
In reply to Re: Med Free- Relapse, posted by Zana on April 13, 2009, at 16:58:24
Thank you. I was doing well and sleeping ok but something happened, I don't know what. The thing that hurts me is that I was accepting some of the OCD and letting it be there. Waking up in the middle of the night and saying "that's fine, I will get back to sleep". It was working and sometimes I even ate a little and slept again. I felt confident. Now I fear laying down again, when I love to sleep well. ugh. Srri's are out for me. I guess I need anafranil.
If I get the panic under control the OCD calms greatly. Being med sensitive doesn't help either. Damn side effects!
Posted by sowhysosad on April 13, 2009, at 17:16:50
In reply to Med Free- Relapse, posted by johnj1 on April 13, 2009, at 16:42:20
Can really sympathise John. I'm weaning off an AD at the moment and having a pretty bad time.
The fact that OCD is part of your issues is a major clue that brain serotonin is your issue. It's almost certainly an imbalance that you can't help or "think" away, so don't beat yourself up.
Let us know how you get on.
> Man, med free for about 1 year and 9 months. Some very bad times and some very good times. Now, things are gettng worse, OCD, anxiety, insomnia. I feel like a failure. I really have tried wonder why I can't think myself out of this. Isn't it our thoughts that cause this? Not sure what to do.... Started with anxiety and then OCD reared it's ugly head. I ruminate hours a day. Sh*t, I hate this.
Posted by Amelia_in_StPaul on April 13, 2009, at 17:31:17
In reply to Re: Med Free- Relapse » johnj1, posted by sowhysosad on April 13, 2009, at 17:16:50
I just got dx'ed with OCD too, last January. Please don't think you are a failure for not doing well off meds. Your biology is not of your making; you have done nothing wrong. I too tried to go off of meds and only made it through 9 months. Then anxiety hit, and OCD. I cried and cried to think of having to go back on the drug merry-go-round but I felt like I was losing my mind. I relate so well to what you are experiencing, including the guilt and self-blame. But please, don't go there. Your biology is not your fault. Remember that. And too, you already have a leg up on OCD because you realize what it is; as well, you are already doing the right things self-care wise. Bravo for that! Now you just need to take care of yourself with medication and therapy (for OCD therapy works best, always with meds as an adjunct).
> Can really sympathise John. I'm weaning off an AD at the moment and having a pretty bad time.
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> The fact that OCD is part of your issues is a major clue that brain serotonin is your issue. It's almost certainly an imbalance that you can't help or "think" away, so don't beat yourself up.
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> Let us know how you get on.
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> > Man, med free for about 1 year and 9 months. Some very bad times and some very good times. Now, things are gettng worse, OCD, anxiety, insomnia. I feel like a failure. I really have tried wonder why I can't think myself out of this. Isn't it our thoughts that cause this? Not sure what to do.... Started with anxiety and then OCD reared it's ugly head. I ruminate hours a day. Sh*t, I hate this.
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Posted by Phillipa on April 14, 2009, at 0:01:03
In reply to Med Free- Relapse, posted by johnj1 on April 13, 2009, at 16:42:20
Jonni sorry I have it also and trying to wearn off luvox and benzos as no longer work. So anafranil for you? Love Phillipa
Posted by Zyprexa on April 14, 2009, at 10:31:43
In reply to Med Free- Relapse, posted by johnj1 on April 13, 2009, at 16:42:20
I'm on meds and feel like that. Don't think any of them are working.
Posted by sowhysosad on April 14, 2009, at 15:40:11
In reply to Re: Med Free- Relapse, posted by Zyprexa on April 14, 2009, at 10:31:43
Have you given them 4-6 weeks to reach maximum effect?
If so, I'd speak to your doc as you clearly need a higher dose or a change.
> I'm on meds and feel like that. Don't think any of them are working.
Posted by johnj1 on April 15, 2009, at 10:04:56
In reply to Re: Med Free- Relapse, posted by Amelia_in_StPaul on April 13, 2009, at 17:31:17
What are you taking for your OCD? Ssri's just caused so much anxiety when I started it was terrible. Not sure what route to go. I have panic disorder too.
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