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Posted by frillyknickers on March 27, 2009, at 11:25:55
I've been feeling really, really spacey lately. I can't remember peoples names, random information I know I know, and in general I just feel dumb. I think more slowly.
this ROUGHLY correlates with when I started adderall. is this a possible side effect?
there's also a strange PHYSICAL sensation of my head feeling, er, empty. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
Posted by myco on March 27, 2009, at 12:01:06
In reply to spacey on adderall?, posted by frillyknickers on March 27, 2009, at 11:25:55
This is an amphetamine-like stimulant I believe...spaceyness, doped-up, drugged out, overly energetic, memory and cognition issues are all part of the side effect profile from what I've seen here from those that use it. Being on a maoi myself, a stimulant is way over the head of my dr's options for me. But some adderall user will come around eventually to verify what you are experiencing i'm sure.
myco
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> I've been feeling really, really spacey lately. I can't remember peoples names, random information I know I know, and in general I just feel dumb. I think more slowly.
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> this ROUGHLY correlates with when I started adderall. is this a possible side effect?
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> there's also a strange PHYSICAL sensation of my head feeling, er, empty. I'm not sure how else to describe it.
Posted by Zana on March 27, 2009, at 13:23:03
In reply to spacey on adderall?, posted by frillyknickers on March 27, 2009, at 11:25:55
I've taken adderall and ritalin even just plain dexedrine. They all have made me feel weird and spacey at times - focused and energetic at other times. Speed, which is basically what they all are, is strange stuff. It causes all kinds of seemingly contradictory feelings. I know what you mean about feeling empty headed too. But the forgetting and dumb feeling sound like something else to me. What other meds are you taking?
Zana
Posted by TriedEveryDrug on March 27, 2009, at 15:50:39
In reply to spacey on adderall?, posted by frillyknickers on March 27, 2009, at 11:25:55
It could very well be the adderall making you feel this way.
I feel dumb, dopey and have trouble remembering things on adderall. I do not know if this subsides over time as the longest I've been on it was a couple of weeks.
Are you taking this for ADD? For me, while adderall made me feel like a dope, desipramine made me sharp as a tack.Regards.
Posted by Garnet71 on March 27, 2009, at 21:03:33
In reply to Re: spacey on adderall? » frillyknickers, posted by TriedEveryDrug on March 27, 2009, at 15:50:39
So I read what you said about desipramine, and looked it up on wiki:
"Desipramine is one of the most potent and selective medications in this respect. It may also be used to treat symptoms of Attention Deficit Disorder, as the underproduction of norepinephrine has been increasingly linked to symptoms associated with Attention Deficit Disorder."
Hmm. So if Effexor worked for me years ago, but I hated it. When it kicked in, I lost my emotions--nothing at all would upset me, but it seemed I felt no real joy either. I was emotionally numb, felt too much like a robot. Although it worked, it freaked me out and I quit. I quit using it twice-the withdrawal is horrible. I never felt so awful in my life--almost like I was going to die of pure misery. Well, I should have tapered off, but just didn't. I had to get it out of my body. It seems poisonous to me. The 2nd time I was on it, I got swollen joints, really irregular, but really painful. Went to a Rheumetologist-I didn't have Rhemeutoid arthritis, the tests revealed, so I quit the Effexor again. The swelling went away when I quit Effexor, but I was also taking Wellbutrin at the same time and had quit that as well. I thought I was allergic to it.
So did you ever try Effexor? What led you to desipramine? What would be the advantages of one vs. the other?
Just trying to think ahead.
Posted by desolationrower on March 28, 2009, at 20:37:55
In reply to Re: spacey on adderall? » TriedEveryDrug, posted by Garnet71 on March 27, 2009, at 21:03:33
one big advantage of desipramine is you can better control how much of it you are taking. with venlafaxing you need a big dose of the sri part before it starts to block norepinephrine reuptake.
-d/r
Posted by TriedEveryDrug on April 2, 2009, at 19:42:54
In reply to Re: spacey on adderall? » TriedEveryDrug, posted by Garnet71 on March 27, 2009, at 21:03:33
> Hmm. So if Effexor worked for me years ago, but I hated it. When it kicked in, I lost my emotions--nothing at all would upset me, but it seemed I felt no real joy either. I was emotionally numb, felt too much like a robot. Although it worked, it freaked me out and I quit. I quit using it twice-the withdrawal is horrible. I never felt so awful in my life--almost like I was going to die of pure misery. Well, I should have tapered off, but just didn't. I had to get it out of my body. It seems poisonous to me. The 2nd time I was on it, I got swollen joints, really irregular, but really painful. Went to a Rheumetologist-I didn't have Rhemeutoid arthritis, the tests revealed, so I quit the Effexor again. The swelling went away when I quit Effexor, but I was also taking Wellbutrin at the same time and had quit that as well. I thought I was allergic to it.
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> So did you ever try Effexor? What led you to desipramine? What would be the advantages of one vs. the other?
>
> Just trying to think ahead.
>Hi,
Desipramine was the first thing ever given to me for ADD. about 20 years ago in college.
I have tried Effexor (and pristiq). Effexor made me cheerful, social, upbeat. But it also made me very lazy and it seemed like I got tired on it easily.
Everyone is different, but for me, here are the pros and cons of each...
desipramine pros: mental sharpness, motivation, motivation, motivation
desipramine cons: extreme social phobia, depression, highly negative thoughts, anxiety
effexor pros: cheerful, some extra focus, social
effexor cons: made my crohn's disease worse, laziness
My dose of desipramine was 10-50mg. My dose of effexor was 75mg.
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