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Posted by dade on March 1, 2009, at 1:09:19
This is a barbiturate most people have heard about over the years. It was off of the market since 2001 (although not heavily used) I believe and now is now back as of January 2009.
These were the "reds" of the 1970's. Similarly, oxymorphone re-released in 2006 as Opana; these were the "blues" of the 1970's.
Very interesting to see they have returned; scheduled as a CII.
More information is available here.
http://marathonpharma.com/seconal_sodium.php
The package insert
http://marathonpharma.com/pdfs/Seconal_Sodium_PI.pdfMost barbiturates have widely been replaced by benzodiazepines.
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 2, 2009, at 15:24:15
In reply to Seconal (Secobarbital) Re-introuduced to the Marke, posted by dade on March 1, 2009, at 1:09:19
Yup, and it's going to be the "last".
Secobarbital killed so many people, on accidents.
Pentobarbital is not used commercially, Nembutal. Marylin Monroe 1962...took XXX caps.
It's effective.... due! but re-dosing, habit, benzodiapines don't cause respitory failure, they just sedate the limbic system. Mostly all barbiturates work on anxiety, siezures, and slowing the "peripherial" (blood pressure), and other stuff, such as Respitory system (breathing) when abused, it's shut down.
The only thing, that was "wierd" Dexamyl (dextroamphetamine 15mg + amobarbital 90mg) (not exact on the dose)
"Mood uplift, and great for vertablly inhibited" - 60's ad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DexamylDon't know why, but it made introverted people, supposedly "talk, have conversation"
Southern Comfort is more preferred, of all time.Anyways...
Seroquel....today is used for sleep so much, but i'm telling, it's a dissocative drug, above 50mg. It's a nueroleptic, but it works also, you feel dissociated, no good feeling at all... but i think, it may be just a bit habit forming, because it "tunes" out thoughts, at night, but does not give relaxing sedation. But, if it works....
and in my case, i didnt like taking it at all. But just had to at times, to at least, be "stoned" psyche sleep. I mean....why dont they just give Thorazine, because it's old, and it's lost it's patent. (I'm making a joke comparing it to Thorazine)The histimine h1 channel is blocked along with dopamine and serotonin to an extent.
-Thought i'd throw that in there for info.
But, it's not a med doctor's are going to use,
1) It was patented in 1930
2)Overdose
3)Habit forming "extreme"/ abuse from the past.take care
rj
Posted by dade on March 4, 2009, at 0:40:50
In reply to Re: Seconal (Secobarbital) Re-introuduced to the Marke, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 2, 2009, at 15:24:15
> Yup, and it's going to be the "last".
>
> Secobarbital killed so many people, on
accidents.--People used to CS with it yes and the Barb+alcoh combo led to many deaths, usually with booze. Alone a Seconal niave person will need~XXXX to CS less with booze
> Pentobarbital is not used commercially, Nembutal. Marylin Monroe 1962...took XXX caps.
Nembutal (lost use 2004) is lethal at just XXXX caps in drug naive persons,less with booze. Marilyn was found with XX in her system-possibly given enema style. Aposter here called 'Jerrypharmstudent-aged 36 took Nembutal some years ago and had the 'best nights sleep ever'.
>
> It's effective.... due! but re-dosing, habit, benzodiapines don't cause respitory failure, they just sedate the limbic system. Mostly all barbiturates work on anxiety, siezures, and slowing the "peripherial" (blood pressure), and other stuff, such as Respitory system (breathing) when abused, it's shut down.
>
> The only thing, that was "wierd" Dexamyl (dextroamphetamine 15mg + amobarbital 90mg) (not exact on the dose)
> "Mood uplift, and great for vertablly inhibited" - 60's ad.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DexamylThere was also the kings of 'goofballs' (barb+M/amp combos)
Desbutal IR:
-5mg Desoxyn+30mg Nembutal.Desbutal Gradumets SR:
-10mg desoxyn+60mg Nembutal
-15mg Desoxyn+90mg Nembutal
>
> Don't know why, but it made introverted people, supposedly "talk, have conversation"
> Southern Comfort is more preferred, of all time.
Should you be drinking on 60mg Dex spans and 6mg Xanax?
> Anyways...
>
> Seroquel....today is used for sleep so much, but i'm telling, it's a dissocative drug, above 50mg. It's a nueroleptic, but it works also, you feel dissociated, no good feeling at all... but i think, it may be just a bit habit forming, because it "tunes" out thoughts, at night, but does not give relaxing sedation. But, if it works....
> and in my case, i didnt like taking it at all. But just had to at times, to at least, be "stoned" psyche sleep. I mean....why dont they just give Thorazine, because it's old, and it's lost it's patent. (I'm making a joke comparing it to Thorazine)
>
> The histimine h1 channel is blocked along with dopamine and serotonin to an extent.
>
> -Thought i'd throw that in there for info.>
> But, it's not a med doctor's are going to use,
>
> 1) It was patented in 1930
> 2)Overdose
> 3)Habit forming "extreme"/ abuse from the past.
>
> take care
>
> rj
Their Opium timcture looks good, 10mg/ml Morphine-118mlsOK
Posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 4, 2009, at 12:08:36
In reply to Re: Seconal 2009 » rjlockhart04-08, posted by dade on March 4, 2009, at 0:40:50
Yes....you are correct.
but, if barbiturates are presciribed like they where, it's a history repeat. "Numb" "Sedated", sometimes i do feel i need to the emergency, dissociate and dont feel with reality.
That's why i take Xanax, not because it's a amphetamine+tranquilzer, plus Xanax only lasts 2 hour duration while, Spansules usally last 12 hours if taken 2 at 9, (they last 6 hours) and 2 at 3pm. 12 hours. 15mg for 6 hours. That's not a large dose, "60mg" would be a large dose at once. Doctor use tablet form because it's more abusable, Spansules are diffrent, really...they dont "hit" like Adderall 30mg tablets did, which i took 3-4 years ago. Slow onset.
But...well, at least barbiturate that is still marketed for sleep. Seconal is better than Halcion, Halcion in 80's made people go, a "little" psychotic after it wore off. (Don't say this to anyone ok dade!) i mean just stuff hits the fan all the time! get lost....mess up a program on a computer, mark the wrong awnsers in test colulm, but it's all circtumstance of life.
The universe said: rj shall have "chaos" when it decides. Jk...
take care
rj
Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on March 5, 2009, at 13:15:55
In reply to Re: Seconal (Secobarbital) Re-introuduced to the Marke, posted by rjlockhart04-08 on March 2, 2009, at 15:24:15
Please don't use this site to exchange information that could be used to harm others.
Per the FAQ: "Information that could be used to harm oneself includes both how much it takes to overdose and..."I have removed that information from your post. Dr. Bob was available and concurs with this action.
Thanks,
-- 10derHeart
Posted by Deputy 10derHeart on March 5, 2009, at 13:15:58
In reply to Re: Seconal 2009 » rjlockhart04-08, posted by dade on March 4, 2009, at 0:40:50
Please don't use this site to exchange information that could be used to harm others.
Per the FAQ: "Information that could be used to harm oneself includes both how much it takes to overdose and..."I have removed that information from your post. Dr. Bob was available and concurs with this action.
Thanks,
-- 10derHeart
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