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Posted by desolationrower on February 16, 2009, at 3:07:40
In reply to Re: alcohol, posted by Connor on February 2, 2009, at 23:44:38
well i have a pint sometimes. alcohol doesn't really do much to me mentally. getting pissed can be fun, but its too much work the next day. in 2-3 drink/day levels, it has positive effects on some blood lipid levels, and some positives and negatives on brain health. most of the bad stuff can be reduced quite a lot, except for some slight increase in cancer risk, not much to do to prevent that. generally you want to avoid dehydration with some osmolytes, magnesium and b-vitamin depletion (actually memantine would probably be even better for the rebound hyperglutamatergic damage), and take some lithium (and a liver protectant if you drink most every day: coffee and lecithin are cheap and effective), and getting hammered is not much harm. some NAC too. probably sleep disruption is the biggest problem. cannabis is a lot safer though, although like everything in life can have some harm. i could post links to studies showing how spinich is bad for you too (not to mention there is a large taxpayer funded pool of money for researchers who will publish studies abotu how bad those evil drugs are). i never noticed alcohol reducing anxiety levels or anything, but when i'm really shitfaced i'll not be able to remember hte start of my sentences so i'll say lots of funny stuff. mostly whisky and ale is just really tasty.
"The problem is life isnt about getting fuc*ed up all the time. You have to be able to go through pains and realize you can't be perfect. You can't just avoid feelings and run all the time. Hey I escape too, but I don't get fuc*ed up."
^this i disagree with: life isn't 'about' anythign, exept what you decide to make it about. ganga is a lot less harmful than tv is.
-d/r
Posted by JadeKelly on February 16, 2009, at 22:51:47
In reply to Re: alcohol, posted by desolationrower on February 16, 2009, at 3:07:40
Okay D/R-we all know you like your ganga.
I actually do feel less anxious after a couple drinks. I never get drunk. Were all gonna sit here and defend the "drug" that works for us.Lets not forget Sam was just trying to express his opinion which he doesn't do often, so if you guys wanna battle it out lets start another thread. He doesn't believe in self medication. Thats a completely legitimate way to feel, and he'll outlive us all and be healthy to boot. Do we really get to tell someone their beliefs are wrong? We can tell em are point of view, we can argue faulty facts. But If I say I BELIEVE people should stay within the law, thats my right to believe that. I don't think Sam was looking for an attack on his belief system.
Please tell me if I'm wrong here Sam, I'm pretty sure you left a while ago, but I hope you'll post again.
Your friend,
~Jade
Posted by sam K on February 16, 2009, at 23:45:52
In reply to Re: alcohol, posted by desolationrower on February 16, 2009, at 3:07:40
lol ya tv is actually harmful. Makes you think everyone is supposed to be perfect and funny.
Weed is bad for the lungs so it's probably harmful. Alcohol just doesn't seem healthy, and like you said it depletes alot of vitimans.
I got so trashed in 8th grade summer the first time I was getting into that stuff. Just so trashed. I was rolling around and couldnt stand up. I didnt have a problem back then with it like I do now. Who knows, there's no point in arguing ya know. Your point is valid about life isnt about anything.
Theres just so many types and personalitys out there and I'm just one to not like alcohol or weed. I'm a healthy guy and i got mental illness and if those drugs seemed healthy when I did them, then I would do them. But they seem messy and just not good for the body
Posted by JadeKelly on February 17, 2009, at 0:05:37
In reply to Re: alcohol, posted by sam K on February 16, 2009, at 23:45:52
> lol ya tv is actually harmful. Makes you think everyone is supposed to be perfect and funny.
> Weed is bad for the lungs so it's probably harmful. Alcohol just doesn't seem healthy, and like you said it depletes alot of vitimans.
> I got so trashed in 8th grade summer the first time I was getting into that stuff. Just so trashed. I was rolling around and couldnt stand up. I didnt have a problem back then with it like I do now. Who knows, there's no point in arguing ya know. Your point is valid about life isnt about anything.
> Theres just so many types and personalitys out there and I'm just one to not like alcohol or weed. I'm a healthy guy and i got mental illness and if those drugs seemed healthy when I did them, then I would do them. But they seem messy and just not good for the body
Well then, D/R will continue to smoke his weed du jour, Jade will continue to have a drink now and then, and Sam will live to be 125.Well done Sam!
~Jade
Posted by Questionmark on February 18, 2009, at 23:00:33
In reply to Re: alcohol, posted by JadeKelly on February 16, 2009, at 22:51:47
Stating how you feel about something for yourself is different than saying you are "against" something in terms of other people. I'm against Remeron-- for myself. I'm not against other people using Remeron. But i think his actual opinion was probably more that it is not good that his brother is "a druggie", whether he (his brother) is trying to self-medicate or not-- something like that maybe (sorry if my assumption is wrong, however). Otherwise yeah i don't quite understand it cuz we're all self-medicating here (or everyone here who is on a drug which is the vast majority if not all).
But yeah the first post was still pretty derogatory and demeaning to cannabis users. I [would] only use cannabis on very rare occasions-- er, would if it were legal (i do not do anything against the law, of course-- and i certainly wouldn't admit to it on a public website), and it has a number of effects on me that i absolutely loathe (or would if i had tried it). Basically, it is far, far, far from my drug of choice. It is near the bottom of the list of my drugs of choice (medicinal or recreational or otherwise). But for god's sake it is one of the least dangerous psychoactive substances in existence. There are numerous groups and people, however, who have an enormous financial interest in keeping cannabis illegal. I'm not talking conspiracy theories here i'm talking about obvious things. And i am not a hippie or a far-left liberal or a pothead (not that there's anything necessarily wrong with them as people of course). No. I just care about fairness and justice and logic. And it is due to nothing other than pure fantastical hypocrisy, misinformation, and irrational traditionalism that cannabis is still illicit-- especially as tobacco, alcohol, and numerous pharmaceuticals are legal.
I could go on about this and all the specifics for .. way too long, but i've already digressed down a mostly irrelevant tangent, so i'll shut up now.
Criticism of cannabis on this board is just the last thing i would expect to see, and is especially [i'll keep it civil] unsettling considering all the powerful, physiologically habit-forming, and far less time-tested pharmaceutical drugs that we poor saps take.
... But, that being said, i'll still take Nardil and coffee over all the weed in the world, any day of the week.
(PS Also of course this is not an attack on you Jade was just commenting on one thing you said.)
> Okay D/R-we all know you like your ganga.
> I actually do feel less anxious after a couple drinks. I never get drunk. Were all gonna sit here and defend the "drug" that works for us.
>
> Lets not forget Sam was just trying to express his opinion which he doesn't do often, so if you guys wanna battle it out lets start another thread. He doesn't believe in self medication. Thats a completely legitimate way to feel, and he'll outlive us all and be healthy to boot. Do we really get to tell someone their beliefs are wrong? We can tell em are point of view, we can argue faulty facts. But If I say I BELIEVE people should stay within the law, thats my right to believe that. I don't think Sam was looking for an attack on his belief system.
>
> Please tell me if I'm wrong here Sam, I'm pretty sure you left a while ago, but I hope you'll post again.
>
> Your friend,
>
> ~Jade
Posted by Questionmark on February 18, 2009, at 23:08:32
In reply to Re: alcohol, posted by desolationrower on February 16, 2009, at 3:07:40
I just wanted to comment that i think this statement is completely true and, although simple, pretty brilliant:
"life isn't 'about' anything, except what you decide to make it about."
- Depressing or encouraging depending on your perspective, but completely true.
>"The problem is life isnt about getting fuc*ed up all the time. You have to be able to go through pains and realize you can't be perfect. You can't just avoid feelings and run all the time. Hey I escape too, but I don't get fuc*ed up."> ^this i disagree with: life isn't 'about' anythign, exept what you decide to make it about. ganga is a lot less harmful than tv is.
>
> -d/r
Posted by JadeKelly on February 19, 2009, at 0:42:07
In reply to In Defense of Cannabis, posted by Questionmark on February 18, 2009, at 23:00:33
Hi Questionmark,
Still trying to figure out which thing it was I said or maybe multiple things! Any way your post sounded right to me so if I was inarticulate (or sloppy) in my posting, my apologies.I actually have no problem with cannabis. I think they have to keep SOMTHING illegal. In fact, I'll go further, I think its safer than alcohol. Maybe it just felt to me that Sam was on the recieving end of somthing he didn't wan't be.
Well, thanks for bring that to my attention ;-)
~Jade
Posted by Questionmark on February 24, 2009, at 0:47:22
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by JadeKelly on February 19, 2009, at 0:42:07
No sorry i wasn't referring to much of what you said at all. Sorry to Sam if i was too harsh sounding also. No offense intended.
... But yeah i TOTally believe cannabis is safer than alcohol-- for most individuals and definitely absolutely for society as a whole.
> Hi Questionmark,
>
> Still trying to figure out which thing it was I said or maybe multiple things! Any way your post sounded right to me so if I was inarticulate (or sloppy) in my posting, my apologies.I actually have no problem with cannabis. I think they have to keep SOMTHING illegal. In fact, I'll go further, I think its safer than alcohol. Maybe it just felt to me that Sam was on the recieving end of somthing he didn't wan't be.
>
> Well, thanks for bring that to my attention ;-)
>
> ~Jade
Posted by SLS on February 24, 2009, at 6:07:08
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis » JadeKelly, posted by Questionmark on February 24, 2009, at 0:47:22
I don't want to reproduce the whole debate here, but I have researched old Mary Jane, and she has the potential to precipitate psychosis in some individuals. There is also some question that it might accelerate the induction of schizophrenia.
That's all. If people want to debate the issue, I would recommend the Psycho-Babble archives or do some searches on Google and PubMed.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/
- Scott
Posted by sam K on February 24, 2009, at 9:04:32
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis » JadeKelly, posted by Questionmark on February 24, 2009, at 0:47:22
hey question mark
dont worry about it, I understand that ur not trying to be mean. But hey cannabis is probably good for some people. And ya life isnt really about anything in particular. I just type how Im feeling at the time whether or not its true. Thanks for helping me learn that though.
I mean even lately Ive had a self medicating type of thing going. This and that, a dab of this. I cant even help it. So who am I to judge ya know.
Ironically I just got back from jamaica where weed is REAL popular. HAHA i got offered weed so much, like 10 times a day.
Posted by JadeKelly on February 24, 2009, at 18:58:31
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by sam K on February 24, 2009, at 9:04:32
> hey question mark
> dont worry about it, I understand that ur not trying to be mean. But hey cannabis is probably good for some people. And ya life isnt really about anything in particular. I just type how Im feeling at the time whether or not its true. Thanks for helping me learn that though.
> I mean even lately Ive had a self medicating type of thing going. This and that, a dab of this. I cant even help it. So who am I to judge ya know.
> Ironically I just got back from jamaica where weed is REAL popular. HAHA i got offered weed so much, like 10 times a day.Hey Sam thats right, you were going to Jamaica last time I talked to you. LUCKY! Its cold as hell here and my skin is a nice pasty white.
First chance I get I'm gettin to some HOT sun. So how was your trip?If you feel like telling me the fun stuff you did you can babblemail me or just post it here if its dignified, haha. Did you get nice and tan? I don't remember who you were going with but I hope you had a blast.Your friend,
Jade ;-)
Posted by detroitpistons on February 24, 2009, at 20:23:50
In reply to In Defense of Cannabis, posted by Questionmark on February 18, 2009, at 23:00:33
There's nothing wrong with cannabis, in my humble opinion. Just like anything else, it's possible to go overboard with it. Compared to a lot of other substances, however, I'd say it's pretty benign.
I have a friend who has had a very tough time with treatment resistent depression. His moods cycle a lot (mostly from more depressed to less depressed and vice versa) and mood stabilizers and antidepressants haven't seemed to help him, even things like Abilify...He's recently begun to smoke a little bit of pot and it's helped him to cope. If it's helping him to get by while everything else is failing, I think he should keep doing it. Why not? It's all about quality of life.
> Stating how you feel about something for yourself is different than saying you are "against" something in terms of other people. I'm against Remeron-- for myself. I'm not against other people using Remeron. But i think his actual opinion was probably more that it is not good that his brother is "a druggie", whether he (his brother) is trying to self-medicate or not-- something like that maybe (sorry if my assumption is wrong, however). Otherwise yeah i don't quite understand it cuz we're all self-medicating here (or everyone here who is on a drug which is the vast majority if not all).
> But yeah the first post was still pretty derogatory and demeaning to cannabis users. I [would] only use cannabis on very rare occasions-- er, would if it were legal (i do not do anything against the law, of course-- and i certainly wouldn't admit to it on a public website), and it has a number of effects on me that i absolutely loathe (or would if i had tried it). Basically, it is far, far, far from my drug of choice. It is near the bottom of the list of my drugs of choice (medicinal or recreational or otherwise). But for god's sake it is one of the least dangerous psychoactive substances in existence. There are numerous groups and people, however, who have an enormous financial interest in keeping cannabis illegal. I'm not talking conspiracy theories here i'm talking about obvious things. And i am not a hippie or a far-left liberal or a pothead (not that there's anything necessarily wrong with them as people of course). No. I just care about fairness and justice and logic. And it is due to nothing other than pure fantastical hypocrisy, misinformation, and irrational traditionalism that cannabis is still illicit-- especially as tobacco, alcohol, and numerous pharmaceuticals are legal.
> I could go on about this and all the specifics for .. way too long, but i've already digressed down a mostly irrelevant tangent, so i'll shut up now.
> Criticism of cannabis on this board is just the last thing i would expect to see, and is especially [i'll keep it civil] unsettling considering all the powerful, physiologically habit-forming, and far less time-tested pharmaceutical drugs that we poor saps take.
> ... But, that being said, i'll still take Nardil and coffee over all the weed in the world, any day of the week.
>
>
> (PS Also of course this is not an attack on you Jade was just commenting on one thing you said.)
>
>
> > Okay D/R-we all know you like your ganga.
> > I actually do feel less anxious after a couple drinks. I never get drunk. Were all gonna sit here and defend the "drug" that works for us.
> >
> > Lets not forget Sam was just trying to express his opinion which he doesn't do often, so if you guys wanna battle it out lets start another thread. He doesn't believe in self medication. Thats a completely legitimate way to feel, and he'll outlive us all and be healthy to boot. Do we really get to tell someone their beliefs are wrong? We can tell em are point of view, we can argue faulty facts. But If I say I BELIEVE people should stay within the law, thats my right to believe that. I don't think Sam was looking for an attack on his belief system.
> >
> > Please tell me if I'm wrong here Sam, I'm pretty sure you left a while ago, but I hope you'll post again.
> >
> > Your friend,
> >
> > ~Jade
Posted by sam K on February 24, 2009, at 21:13:37
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by detroitpistons on February 24, 2009, at 20:23:50
ya why not? chemicals are chemicals so whatever helps go ahead I got no problem.
Posted by Neal on February 25, 2009, at 0:39:54
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by sam K on February 24, 2009, at 21:13:37
Cannibis was good to me - until one day when it wasn't. Author of "Darkness Visible" said the same thing about booze.
If you're not already using the substances - don't start!
Posted by sam K on February 25, 2009, at 23:51:47
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by Neal on February 25, 2009, at 0:39:54
MARIJAWANA
im feelin silly
Posted by dcruik518 on February 26, 2009, at 15:06:06
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by SLS on February 24, 2009, at 6:07:08
> I don't want to reproduce the whole debate here, but I have researched old Mary Jane, and she has the potential to precipitate psychosis in some individuals. There is also some question that it might accelerate the induction of schizophrenia.
>Yeah, and from what I just heard it seems like pot is a common trigger for depersonalization and derealization disorders, which can be devastating.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20090223/msgs/882661.html
~D
> That's all. If people want to debate the issue, I would recommend the Psycho-Babble archives or do some searches on Google and PubMed.
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by detroitpistons on February 26, 2009, at 15:51:43
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by dcruik518 on February 26, 2009, at 15:06:06
Mmmmm, I think the psychosis thing is a bit of a stretch, to say the least. Though not impossible, this must be a very, very, VERY rare phenomenon. I think that somebody would only have psychosis related to marijuana use only if the psychosis was going to happen anyways. I'm sorry, I just don't see it. Pot can affect different people in different ways, but compared to a lot of other substances (some of which are prescribed to us), I think marijuana is relatively harmless. I'm just speaking from personal experience, research of my own, and a lot of observation of actual pot smokers...call it field work, if you will.
People said Syd Barrett was an "acid casualty." More realistically, he was probably prone to schizophrenia because of his genes, and perhaps the daily LSD use sped up the process or triggered the first psychosis, but we have no way of knowing. But LSD and marijuana aren't even comparable in that sense. I bring this up just as an example.
People with predispositions to different kinds of mental and emotional disorders are going to get abnormal effects from lots of different drugs. If you give adderall to someone with severe anxiety, guess what? It might not be suitable for that person. They may have a panic attack.
People with addictive personalities will probably smoke marijuana too much, and perhaps have some bad consequences. Almost anything used excessively is bad. It's true, a lot of people who smoke too much pot may become lazy/ listless, etc. But you know what? The people I've encountered who let that happen aren't exactly the most motivated to begin with, by their very nature.
None of this means that marijuana is inherently "bad" or "good." I don't think anyone can convince me that daily marijuana use is any worse than daily alcohol consumption...not gonna happen. Alcohol is way more destructive. As for occassional use, I'd say that 99.9% of the "once in a while" crowd has zero problems.
There are plenty of people who have absolutely zero negative reaction from smoking cannabis, and there are plenty of cancer and terminally ill patients who get a lot of benefit from it. At different points in my life, I've smoked marijuana on a regular basis. Not once have I ever experienced any kind of withdrawal or "discontinuation syndrome" when I stopped. To the contrary, if I miss an Effexor dose by 8 hours, I'm a complete mess. Marijuana can have a soothing, stabilizing effect for me. That's just me. Some people get good results and others don't. It's as simple as that.
The bottom line is that there are just too many variables involved to try to make judgments about marijuana, one way or the other.
> > I don't want to reproduce the whole debate here, but I have researched old Mary Jane, and she has the potential to precipitate psychosis in some individuals. There is also some question that it might accelerate the induction of schizophrenia.
> >
>
> Yeah, and from what I just heard it seems like pot is a common trigger for depersonalization and derealization disorders, which can be devastating.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20090223/msgs/882661.html
>
> ~D
>
> > That's all. If people want to debate the issue, I would recommend the Psycho-Babble archives or do some searches on Google and PubMed.
> >
> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
>
Posted by SLS on February 26, 2009, at 17:47:38
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis » dcruik518, posted by detroitpistons on February 26, 2009, at 15:51:43
> I would recommend the Psycho-Babble archives or do some searches on Google and PubMed.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez/
Use search keyword expression:
(marijuana OR cannabis) AND psychosis
- Scott
Posted by desolationrower on February 27, 2009, at 3:23:01
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by SLS on February 26, 2009, at 17:47:38
THC is pro-psychotic, cannabidiol is anti-psychotic. if you're prone to problems choose the right strain
-d/r
Posted by Garnet71 on February 27, 2009, at 23:34:07
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by desolationrower on February 27, 2009, at 3:23:01
I came across this article today and it seemed fitting to post. I'm NOT telling me son about it though..lol
"Two new studies suggest that red wine and marijuana may help to prevent or slow Alzheimers disease and other age-related memory loss.
An article first published at miller-mccune.com on November 21, 2008, points out that at the November, 2008 meeting of the Society of Neuroscience in Washington, D.C., Ohio State University researchers reported that THC, the main psychoactive substance in the cannabis plant, may lower inflammation in the brain, and even stimulate formation of new brain cells.
And in the Nov. 21, 2008, issue of the Journal of Biological Chemistry, neurologist David Teplow of the University of California, Los Angeles reported that naturally occurring components of red wine called polyphenols can block the formation of proteins that build the toxic plaques thought to destroy brain cells. In addition, these substances can reduce the toxicity of existing plaques. Both actions can slow memory loss.
Neither of these findings surprises me. That marijuana has medical efficacy against a variety of conditions is firmly established scientifically, and the health benefits of moderate red wine consumption are also becoming clearer with each passing year. As of November, 2008, 15 states had laws with provisions for medical marijuana on the books, and I hope more states enact enlightened policies in this regard. In the meantime, if you enjoy an occasional glass of red wine, continue to do so as part of an overall healthy diet."
http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/WBL02129/Red-Wine-and-Marijuana-against-Alzheimers.html
Posted by SLS on February 28, 2009, at 6:26:28
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by Garnet71 on February 27, 2009, at 23:34:07
I wish they had bothered to identify the studies they were using as a platform to declare the contentions as fact. Only two studies? Firmly established?
I don't think so.
I've watched some of my best friends become dullards without memory due to chronic use of the stuff. There's a reason we called them "burn-outs".
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- Scott
Posted by detroitpistons on February 28, 2009, at 10:44:46
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis » Garnet71, posted by SLS on February 28, 2009, at 6:26:28
Yeah, I don't see how marijuana can help to improve memory, but I guess anything's possible. Until I see lots more studies, I won't be too convinced. However, they used to (and some still do) say marijuana kills brain cells. I don't buy that. There's no credible evidence for it.
During the times that I have used marijuana heavily, I have to admit that my short term memory seemed to be affected a bit, but nothing dramatic.
I remember being "busted" in college once because we were smoking in our dorm room. I had to go through all this crap in order to get them off my back. I remember having to have a conversation with one of the graduate assistants in our dorm. He was telling me how I was destroying my life and yada, yada, yada. Then I showed him my grades and informed him that I was pulling pretty much all 4.0's and he shut up. It was quite hilarious. You should have seen him flounder.
> I wish they had bothered to identify the studies they were using as a platform to declare the contentions as fact. Only two studies? Firmly established?
>
> I don't think so.
>
> I've watched some of my best friends become dullards without memory due to chronic use of the stuff. There's a reason we called them "burn-outs".
>
> ***************************************************
>
> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?CMD=search&DB=pubmed&form=4&term=(cannabis+OR+marijuana)+AND+chronic+AND+memory&dispmax=100
>
>
> - Scott
Posted by garnet71 on February 28, 2009, at 11:01:32
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis » Garnet71, posted by SLS on February 28, 2009, at 6:26:28
Well the article came from Dr. Weil's website, which reports most things superficially, but I agree that yes, even for short articles the particluar study could be easily referenced.
I tell my son about the burnout effect all the time and it fortunately has sunk in. Of course to a teen male brain I was another mother who didn't 'know anything'. Now that he is older, he is more influenced by my convictions. Of course, over 50% of ADDers self-medicate, so I'm really not surprised for his liking the drug's effects.
Maybe people in the study were more occaisonal users? I don't think it would hurt anyone to use it a few times a year, and it could be greatly benefial to those with chronic diseases and cancer. For those with serious illnesses--I am totally convinced the benefits outweight the costs in terms of side effects. Thre are side effects from conventional medications that are far worse than what you'd get from marijuana. I think cannibus is much safer than a lot of pharmaceutical drugs and shouldn't be demonized.
But for chronic recreational users, it does take away one's motivation, perhaps the burnout effect you were referring to Scott. I haven't kept in touch with any chronic/long-time cannibus users that I used to know to have to opportunity to see if that was reversed when they quit.
Posted by SLS on February 28, 2009, at 11:04:35
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis » SLS, posted by garnet71 on February 28, 2009, at 11:01:32
> I haven't kept in touch with any chronic/long-time cannibus users that I used to know to have to opportunity to see if that was reversed when they quit.
That's a good point.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on February 28, 2009, at 11:10:24
In reply to Re: In Defense of Cannabis, posted by SLS on February 28, 2009, at 11:04:35
It is not the point of my posting here to take out of the hands of people their marijuana. I do agree that cannabinoids have medicinal value. However, like all drugs, one should be as informed as possible of the possible effects of marijuana THC, both good and bad, so that one can make an informed decision.
- Scott
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